This is quite the disturbing news, Kimmie.

:-*

It is indeed. Which caused me to need to bust open another package to retreieve another seasoning packet, because the one I threw behind the stove vanished into [SIZE=2]F[/SIZE]UCKING THIN AIR.

EDIT: I'm sorry, I was so concerned about my ramen I neglected to do this:

:-*

Ah, I hate when that happens. I like to throw the seasoning packets into my rice cooker and flavor it like that. It's quite good. Damn, that seasoning packet of yours! :smash:

:-*

'Twas really weird. I got the yardstick out and tried to fish it out from behind there, but it was nowhere to be found.

:-*

[QUOTE=Tiger]In all seriousness though, you need to cut this **** out right now. Put your foot down now, because if you let her keep being a drama queen over miniscule little ****, she will never stop and it will escalate. If it takes ending it, do it now before you get any more wrapped around her spoiled little finger.


Is this the girl I thought looked like a man? Or was that Wizard's girl? I get you and him confused a lot, how can two dicks be pussies and all.[/QUOTE]
I'm late on this because I took a call, but dude, shut the fuc[size=2]k[/size] up. I'm tired of your bullshi[size=2]t[/size]. You go and give me actually pretty good advice, and then you go and ruin it with some stupid shi[size=2]t[/size] like that. If you can't help without being a dick about things, then why come in here at all?

[QUOTE=Tillius]I'm late on this because I took a call, but dude, shut the fuc[size=2]k[/size] up. I'm tired of your bullshi[size=2]t[/size]. You go and give me actually pretty good advice, and then you go and ruin it with some stupid shi[size=2]t[/size] like that. If you can't help without being a dick about things, then why come in here at all?[/QUOTE]

Hi, Mitch. Sorry about what's going on with Sarah.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Hi, Mitch. Sorry about what's going on with Sarah.[/QUOTE]
I just can't believe how stupid she's being.

And Tiger's getting on my God damn nerves.

[QUOTE=Tillius]I'm late on this because I took a call, but dude, shut the fuc[size=2]k[/size] up. I'm tired of your bullshi[size=2]t[/size]. You go and give me actually pretty good advice, and then you go and ruin it with some stupid shi[size=2]t[/size] like that. If you can't help without being a dick about things, then why come in here at all?[/QUOTE]


Uh oh, somebody's got a case of the Saturdays! :'(

[QUOTE=Tillius]I just can't believe how stupid she's being.

And Tiger's getting on my God damn nerves.[/QUOTE]

I agree; she's blowing this all out of proportion.

[QUOTE=Tiger]Uh oh, somebody's got a case of the Saturdays! :'([/QUOTE]
No, it's just that I was reading what you wrote and was actually happy that you were giving good advice, and then you finish it off with stupid bullshi[size=2]t[/size].

And Kimmie, yes, she is. Why are girls this stupid?

Younger girls by the way, not you of course.

[QUOTE=Tillius]No, it's just that I was reading what you wrote and was actually happy that you were giving good advice, and then you finish it off with stupid bullshi[size=2]t[/size].
[/QUOTE]


Hahaha, thats perfect. You should know better. Its like Im Sean Connery and you're Alex Trebek.

And its confirmed that yes, you are the dater of the coma victim. She has no right to be as controling as she is, she's lucky to get anything coming her way (even you).

Ditch the space cadet and quit menstruating, you admited already that its good advice.

[QUOTE=Tillius]No, it's just that I was reading what you wrote and was actually happy that you were giving good advice, and then you finish it off with stupid bullshi[size=2]t[/size].

And Kimmie, yes, she is. Why are girls this stupid?

Younger girls by the way, not you of course.[/QUOTE]

Nope, I still have my stupid moments, even at my age. I just don't voice them or show them.

[QUOTE=Tillius]If you can't help without being a dick about things, then why come in here at all?[/QUOTE]
Wow, I'm having some serious deja vu.

Well, my best friend from high school is back from Navy boot camp early becuase of a sprained ankle, and we had alot of problems near the end of high school, (hanging out way too much and getting bored and pissed off at each other, fighing for the affection of the same girls, etc.), so we stoped talking. and we hung out for a few hours on friday, and poof, all htos bad memories were gone, and we were best friends again, and we talked about the plans we had for life and such.

and yeah, my cousin died a few weeks ago, my dog died on wednesday, and my uncle died thursday night.

I am suprisingly taking all of this well.

have a nice day L&R thread. I dont know when I will be back.

lmao

Good to hear... I think.

Yeah, I am fine right now. I will most likely break down and cry within the next few days when stress builds up.

My uncle wouldnt have wanted us sad though. I can imagine him pulling me aside at a funeral, and whispering a dirty jokeing my ear to cheer me up.
And my dog was old, she lived a good life, and she was loved.
My cousin was a great guy, and I wish I had known him better.

So yeah, im crying a little bit now, but i am fine.

How are you?

Don't let stress build up. It will be worse then. That's how I deal with things, I kind of ignore everything and force myself to be until I eventually explode over something very lame and blow it of proportion, as you can tell if you've ever read my posts before Letting it build will just cause major problems that you don't need.

If something bugs you, do something about it immediately.

I;ve personally never been affected by family member's dying, but I balled my eyes out when my dog died. :( I had the little bugger as long as I could remember.

I tell my self not to let stress build up all the time, and it never really helps.

Ranting annomously on teh intarwebs helps me feel better, so that is what i do.

We had Cassie for since I was about 4, and she was a year old when we got her, so she was about 15 years old. We had other dogs, but she was the first, and out lived the rest.

Really, just tell yourself to think positively, and force yourself to do it. If you think somehting bad, just rewind for a sec, try to make logic of the thought, then shake it off.

I know, it's harder than it sounds. But I've been a much happier person since I've been doing this for the past 9~10 months. It would probably work for you too.

Take everything as if it is a joke, and meaningless. it makes life much simpler.

I am pretty laid back most of the time. I laugh alot and the most common expression on my face is a smile. I live moment to moment, trying to have as much fun as I can. If there is an instrument to be played, and i can play it, ill play it, or a song to be heard, ill listen. I usually have a song in my head, or at least a beat I can play around with.

Im a pretty happy guy, and living in the moment is a great way to go about life. If there is fun to be had, ill have fun. I wont think of the consequenses if I know I will get a laugh out of it later.

I dont stress out easily. The only times are when my Dad and I get in an arguement, or some family wide problems(some one seriously ill, death, etc).

so yeah, i dont stress out much, but when I do, it will break me down and I will cry, and it will all be at a bad time.



edit: good night L&R thread.

Man sucks to be you. That was the great thing about depression, it didn't really matter what happened, I kinda kept up the same level of depressed, rather than these slings and arrows of outragous fortune.

Anyway, basslikethis, I reccomend spending as much time as possible with friends. Physical ones too, not just on teh intraweb (although that's good too), and, if you're a drinker, getting at least reasonably wasted at least once with a good friend, always helps to have a drunken D&M.

Ok,
This is kinda odd, bit embarrassing (sp) but I need help. Erm, ok, here goes.

So I'm in bed with my gf, (naked) and we had just been talking, "having fun", and so on. Then she got on top, and erm, well I think (though I'm not sure) we had sex. Now I'm a virgin (I think) so I wasnt sure if I was actually having sex with her, but there was a bit of penetration and so on. We were about half way through when she told me she wasn't ready and didn't want to do it. Which is fine, because I was still a virgin (and still am I think??) and I really don't want to be the pushy kinda guy, or anything like that. But now I feel really bad because, I kinda feel like ****. I feel as though I've gone against her will, and I'm almost feeling like a bit of a rapist. I don't know whether I should feel like this, or whatever. Or should I be ok because, she didn't actually tell me till later on.

Just had to get it off my chest. And also, am I still a virgin? It really doesn't bother if I am or not. I just wanted it to be special, and not to have left me feeling like this

[QUOTE=The_Fender_Bender]Ok,
This is kinda odd, bit embarrassing (sp) but I need help. Erm, ok, here goes.

So I'm in bed with my gf, (naked) and we had just been talking, "having fun", and so on. Then she got on top, and erm, well I think (though I'm not sure) we had sex. Now I'm a virgin (I think) so I wasnt sure if I was actually having sex with her, but there was a bit of penetration and so on. We were about half way through when she told me she wasn't ready and didn't want to do it. Which is fine, because I was still a virgin (and still am I think??) and I really don't want to be the pushy kinda guy, or anything like that. But now I feel really bad because, I kinda feel like ****. I feel as though I've gone against her will, and I'm almost feeling like a bit of a rapist. I don't know whether I should feel like this, or whatever. Or should I be ok because, she didn't actually tell me till later on.

Just had to get it off my chest. And also, am I still a virgin? It really doesn't bother if I am or not. I just wanted it to be special, and not to have left me feeling like this[/QUOTE]
Okay, this is one of the.....weirdest posts I've ever read.

Umm....hmmm...if you didn't have sex with her, then you're a virgin. If stuff happened, but she stopped, you were still currently having sex with her which means you have had sex which means you are not a virgin.

It is not something you should feel bad about, because she took just as much part in it as you. Then she said she wasn't ready, and you did the right thing and accepted that.

So, yeah, I think you might not be a virgin anymore, but I'm totally confused as to what you just said.

[QUOTE=The_Fender_Bender]Ok,
This is kinda odd, bit embarrassing (sp) but I need help. Erm, ok, here goes.

So I'm in bed with my gf, (naked) and we had just been talking, "having fun", and so on. Then she got on top, and erm, well I think (though I'm not sure) we had sex. Now I'm a virgin (I think) so I wasnt sure if I was actually having sex with her, but there was a bit of penetration and so on. We were about half way through when she told me she wasn't ready and didn't want to do it. Which is fine, because I was still a virgin (and still am I think??) and I really don't want to be the pushy kinda guy, or anything like that. But now I feel really bad because, I kinda feel like ****. I feel as though I've gone against her will, and I'm almost feeling like a bit of a rapist. I don't know whether I should feel like this, or whatever. Or should I be ok because, she didn't actually tell me till later on.

Just had to get it off my chest. And also, am I still a virgin? It really doesn't bother if I am or not. I just wanted it to be special, and not to have left me feeling like this[/QUOTE]

I guess it depends on what you define as 'having sex.' Some might claim penetration is, while others would claim that ejaculation/climax constitutes and defines sex. By the former's standards, you guys had sex for, like, four seconds, tops. By the latter's standards, you didn't have sex at all. All I know is, I've never done either, so I don't know what the universal rule for 'having sex' is. I can pretty much assure you that I would tell you that you guys didn't have sex and that you're still a virgin.

The way your story reads, it sounds like she just kind of did this out of the blue, then backed out of it. You don't need to feel like you're a rapist because it's not like you grabbed her by the hips, thrust her onto your dong, and then forced her to grind you. It reads like she mounted you on her own accord but then said she wasn't ready. You already said yourself that you're not going to be a pushy guy, so she doesn't need to worry that you're going to be bitter about it towards her or feel like you're going to expect her to have sex with you soon.

Shewillingly got on top of you, so don't feel bad about being a rapist ir anything. If your penis went in her, then you just lost your virginity. If not, then you're still a virgin. I don't know how you could be confused about it...

I think the best thing you can do is talk to her...


As for the virgin thing, I reckon if you don't come it's the same as dry sex, so at least act virginal for now.

I wanted it to be more special than this, but oh well its happened now.
I don't expect or need her to have sex with me. That's mean, and I would hate to be one of those guys who thinks with his dick not his heart. I want it to be a good experience. I dont expect to have sex with her I really don't mind if I do or don't. I want her to be ready, not to feel forced/pressured

[QUOTE=The_Fender_Bender]I wanted it to be more special than this, but oh well its happened now.
I don't expect or need her to have sex with me. That's mean, and I would hate to be one of those guys who thinks with his dick not his heart. I want it to be a good experience. I dont expect to have sex with her I really don't mind if I do or don't. I want her to be ready, not to feel forced/pressured[/QUOTE]
Well, you're one of the good guys.
It's good that you didn't pressure her into it since it already began, but yeah, you're not a virgin anymore, you just didn't get to finish.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]Shewillingly got on top of you, so don't feel bad about being a rapist ir anything. If your penis went in her, then you just lost your virginity. If not, then you're still a virgin. I don't know how you could be confused about it...[/QUOTE]

I think I did but I aint sure because I've never done anything like it before

So, what, the universal rule that constitutes losing one's virginity is peni[font=verdana]s[/font] insertion into vagin[font=verdana]a[/font], regardless of the length of time?

Meh, alright. I personally don't buy it, but if that's the rule, then that's the rule.

[QUOTE=Jom]So, what, the universal rule that constitutes losing one's virginity is peni[font=verdana]s[/font] insertion into vagin[font=verdana]a[/font], regardless of the length of time?

Meh, alright. I personally don't buy it, but if that's the rule, then that's the rule.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with that.
What I'm saying is that that's not all that happened. He didn't just stick it in and pull it out, they actually began having sex, and then she decided she didn't want to. So, they actually began to have sex, so, in my eyes, he's not a virgin.

Never knew sex was so complicated. It was all meant to be so easy, and natural. Now it's all ****ed up. ERGH

I've tried talking to her but no answer

It's never easy, and pretty much never natural, at least not until you're with a pretty long term partner, or you're incredibly wasted. First times always suck anyway, no need to make it some big deal. And if you get the hang of it now, just pretend to be a virgin later with another girl, and she'll be amazing how quickly you pick up the whole sex thing. Trust me on that one, works every time.

[QUOTE=Tillius]I don't agree with that.
What I'm saying is that that's not all that happened. He didn't just stick it in and pull it out, they actually began having sex, and then she decided she didn't want to. So, they actually began to have sex, so, in my eyes, he's not a virgin.[/QUOTE]

To me, it seems like this is supposed to be a mutual consentual agreement. It didn't seem very planned out.

[Girl next to him in bed.]
[Girl mounts and rides for two seconds.]
["I'm not ready."]

The poor chap didn't even get a word in. At that time, he probably didn't know what was going on - just look at how he's worded himself: he doesn't know what went on. He's guessing and second-guessing, not saying "Yes, we did have sex" or "No, we did not have sex" because he flat-out doesn't know.

There was no communication that went on between them, really.

If my girlfriend was next to me, then all of a sudden was on top of me, I can't just punch her in the forehead to get her off me. And if I can 'finish' in two seconds (man, I'd hope not), having a conversation about what's happening at this time wouldn't seem to work all that well, now, would it, heh.

The poor guy's confused about what happened, so I'm just offering how I'd spin it. I'm not saying this to protect him or his virginity, but come on, this scenario is just a ridiculous way of losing one's virginity when it's a one-way street. He reacted the way he did so he wouldn't ruin whatever they had going for them, but since it's a new situation, he reacted (or didn't) accordingly because it's a completely new situation.

Thanks for all your help and opinions guys. Hmm so my Gfwho still wants to be a virgin isnt a virgin because of penetration, or is she a virgin because she wants to be??

[QUOTE=Jom]So, what, the universal rule that constitutes losing one's virginity is peni[font=verdana]s[/font] insertion into vagin[font=verdana]a[/font], regardless of the length of time?

Meh, alright. I personally don't buy it, but if that's the rule, then that's the rule.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that'e the way most people I know think. It isn't about climaxing, because some people never even do it while having sex.

The kid should just talk to the girl, and ask her what exatly happend. Hearing what she thinks about it would help alot more than we can.

If she was penetrated, she isn't a virgin. You can't will yourself into virginity.

Also, don't expect sex to be something special or natural. In fact, usually the first time is very awkward and confusing.

Personally I think the rules are different for girls. Given the physics of the situation, I'd say she's not a virgin. But if she wants to be one, tell her that she is still, make her feel better.

The two of you both lost your virignities. If you wanna tell yourself that you didn't, that's cool too, but you really did.

[QUOTE=Tillius]The two of you both lost your virignities. If you wanna tell yourself that you didn't, that's cool too, but you really did.[/QUOTE]


I don't mind if I did or did not, I am just so confused, and wanted to know what people think

I think you didn't and she did. That's just me of course.