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an_underused_memory 09-21-2004 07:05 PM

Yeah, thats interesting...I think its that existentialist theory of everyone being their own spiritual god....
god is progress
god is evolution...internally...
if anyone has a chance, google 'alex grey' (it may be spelt gray) - he's the guy who did the artwork for lateralus...he has own very interesting site...and he explains the concept behind the lateralus artwork...which may useful for those trying to figure out the lyrics...
Does anyone know who did the artwork for Aenima?
Both were done under the direction of Adam J, but I don't think he actually created the art...

CoopALoop 09-21-2004 07:08 PM

[QUOTE=an_underused_memory]Yeah, thats interesting...I think its that existentialist theory of everyone being their own spiritual god....
god is progress
god is evolution...internally...
created the art...[/QUOTE]

tha'ts one way of putting it but when i saw it
what came to mind was that the image of god has been so forced upon many ppl that it is all that they ahve on their mind

an_underused_memory 09-21-2004 07:11 PM

NB - my earlier question about the sexiness or otherwise of MJK was really just to point out that even being anti-image is an image of sorts!

as another dead hero said: "hmmm, he's going for the anti-marketing market..you know, thats a great market right there..."
I guess all we read and wear or hear and see on TV is product begging for our fat-*** dirty dollar....

alex_barron_qc 09-21-2004 08:38 PM

[QUOTE=christonastick]I just found it last night, its 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10. I didnt really find it that amazing no big revelation or anything. Some of the songs do blend well together in that order so who knows.[/QUOTE]
I listen to it to, but i Know it works, its the songs of the end as the same tempo then the last.

alex_barron_qc 09-21-2004 08:52 PM

Did any body heard if TOOL have tab book?

misunderstood 09-21-2004 11:05 PM

[QUOTE=alex_barron_qc]Originally Posted by christonastick
I just found it last night, its 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10. I didnt really find it that amazing no big revelation or anything. Some of the songs do blend well together in that order so who knows. I listen to it to, but i Know it works, its the songs of the end as the same tempo then the last.[/QUOTE]


Blair made a comment about all this alternate track listing stuff on the official Tool site a couple days ago. I'm not exactly sure what he said about it...something about only tool members having an album with this track listing...i don't know...didn't ready through it..just skimmed...check it out.

hind brain 09-22-2004 05:07 AM

The eye on the back of Aenima was done here: [url]www.happypencil.com[/url]
You can get it on a tshirt :thumb: .

Lateralus artwork: [url]www.alexgrey.com[/url]

[QUOTE]Did any body heard if TOOL have tab book?[/QUOTE]

They have a few for individual songs: [url=http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/store/smp_fastresults.html?cart=33048256771941341]here.[/url]

Adam Jones is GOD 09-22-2004 05:40 AM

[QUOTE=alex_barron_qc]Did any body heard if TOOL have tab book?[/QUOTE]

They only have a few for a selection of songs, but the best tabs are those that people have tabbed themselves on the net. There is a semi official tab site for tool here you can download tabs for every album, I use that myself. As for the link, I cant remember, but most of Tools sites link to it

Otherside 09-22-2004 05:43 AM

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]They only have a few for a selection of songs, but the best tabs are those that people have tabbed themselves on the net. There is a semi official tab site for tool here you can download tabs for every album, I use that myself. As for the link, I cant remember, but most of Tools sites link to it[/QUOTE]

[url]http://toolshed.down.net/0001.html[/url]

[url]http://www.tooltabs.net/[/url]

Adam Jones is GOD 09-22-2004 06:26 AM

Thats the links, its been updated since I last went on it too

clearvision 09-22-2004 11:07 AM

[QUOTE=o_zo]
ps.I'm also not gay.[/QUOTE]
Both of you are liars :lol:

Im curios to know what type of music you other tool fans listen to. I mean like you would consider yhourself an actual fan of, i have all 3 SOAD album and would love to see them in concerst. I consider myself a fan of them...

My list is :

SOAD
HIM
Coldplay
Metallica
Muse
Slipknot
Staind

BlinDecsent 09-22-2004 12:23 PM

My favorite band is Metallica, then Tool, then in no order: Sublime, Red Hot Chili Peppers, In Flames, Rage Against the Machine, Opeth, System of a Down, A Perfect Circle, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Incubus, At the Gates, Iron Maiden, Therion, Avenged Seven Fold, KoRn

Adam Jones is GOD 09-22-2004 04:10 PM

Although some one will prove me wrong, i think I probably have the most varied music tastes out of those who posted so far
My bands include:

Mogwai
Reuben
Smashing Pumpkins
Peach
A Perfect Circle
Million Dead
The Black Mages (he he)
The Killers
Soundgarden


To name a few


Back to tool....

opiate4themasses 09-22-2004 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Peach[/QUOTE]
Lets talk Peach! Did anyone else like Giving Birth to a Stone?
Some of the songs are really catchy and well put together, I wish they woulda stayed together.

Adam Jones is GOD 09-22-2004 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=opiate4themasses]Lets talk Peach! Did anyone else like Giving Birth to a Stone?
Some of the songs are really catchy and well put together, I wish they woulda stayed together.[/QUOTE]

*cheers!

Peach was a great band, and Giving Birth to a Stone was great, Burn was an awesome song. Although the vocals were not great, but us Brits cant sing.

Do you have the original or the Adam artwork re-release?

an_underused_memory 09-22-2004 06:38 PM

Yeah, ditto...
i liked peach but i felt the vocals were a bit weak compared to the rest of the band....

for those interested, my list:
tool
apc
lamb
mars volta
cog
bjork
shostakovich (ok so he's a dead composer, but i think his symphonies are the original heavy metal!)
...a million other bands a like but don't love....

an_underused_memory 09-22-2004 06:39 PM

hmmm another book i think tool fans may like:
tomorrow when the war began by john marsden (aussie author)

johnnysnotdead 09-22-2004 07:21 PM

tool kicks so much mother****ing *** they should stop some of their projects and make a new album cuz htat would kick even more ***

CanadianToolBassist 09-22-2004 07:27 PM

meh, might as well add my own while were own the topic

tool
apc
finger eleven
franz ferdinand
modest mouse
deep fine grind
pilate
i mother earth
cold
linkin park

is there any tool bass tab books? i can only find the guitar ones to buy.

CanadianToolBassist 09-22-2004 07:33 PM

today i was actually so in depth with 46 & 2 that I actually started discussing the concept with my bio teacher. then i started talking about the lateralus graph with my physics teacher. Wow. If you wanna understand the names of some of Tools songs, just talked to someone who knows about them.

Drum_and_Bass_Guy89 09-22-2004 09:33 PM

wut where they about??

BlinDecsent 09-22-2004 11:18 PM

haha my math teacher last year was impressed that I knew the word Parabola.

Alot of tool songs are really intellegent that way though. That is why I generally think people who listen to tool on a regular basis are fairly bright.

Adam Jones is GOD 09-23-2004 05:04 AM

[QUOTE=BlinDecsent]haha my math teacher last year was impressed that I knew the word Parabola.

Alot of tool songs are really intellegent that way though. That is why I generally think people who listen to tool on a regular basis are fairly bright.[/QUOTE]

I passed a maths test by remebering the Fibbonaicci sequence (thanks Lateralus). And I recall there was also a question along the lines of 46 + 2 in it at one point. Coincidence, or maybe the paper was a tool fan too? :lol:

xtreme450 09-23-2004 10:22 AM

Alright...I'd like to offer up my anylization of the song Hush. (to try take this thread back to its original intent)

Hush is, in a nutshell, about censorship.
In the line, "I can't say what I want to, even if I'm not serious," Maynard is basically saying that the record companies won't let him say certain things that would otherwise be considered a threat, even if he dosen't mean it.

When Maynard sings "People tell me what to say, what to think and what to play,"
he reffers again to record companies, more or less the RIAA and FCC, saying that they control everything and they tell you what you can and cannot watch/do/and say in TV, radio and music.

You could also interpret Maynard singing "**** yourself, you piece of ****, why don't you just kill yourself," as saying to the RIAA, FCC and general media that they should **** themselves and kill themselves, because they are wrong for trying to control us.

Anyway you look at it, this song kicks ***...

Paranoidd 09-23-2004 10:40 AM

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Although some one will prove me wrong, i think I probably have the most varied music tastes out of those who posted so far
[/QUOTE]

I will prove you wrong :)

Pink Floyd
Slayer
Rush
Morcheeba
Underworld
Dillinger Escape Plan
Radiohead
Johnny Winter
Diana Krall
Willie Dixon
The Cult
The Police
Bedrock
Lamb
PJ Harvey
Primal Scream
LTJ Bukem

I could go on forever...

xtreme450 09-23-2004 10:47 AM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]I will prove you wrong :)

Pink Floyd
Slayer
Rush
Morcheeba
Underworld
Dillinger Escape Plan
Radiohead
Johnny Winter
Diana Krall
Willie Dixon
The Cult
The Police
Bedrock
Lamb
PJ Harvey
Primal Scream
LTJ Bukem

I could go on forever...[/QUOTE]

just naming bands, or music you actually listen to? cause if its bands you listen to, bravo...

Paranoidd 09-23-2004 10:50 AM

?

What do you think?

Obviously I listen to all of those.

xtreme450 09-23-2004 11:00 AM

yea...i was saying good for you, man...

Paranoidd 09-23-2004 11:07 AM

Ah.

Thanks :D

Adam Jones is GOD 09-23-2004 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]I will prove you wrong :)

Pink Floyd
Slayer
Rush
Morcheeba
Underworld
Dillinger Escape Plan
Radiohead
Johnny Winter
Diana Krall
Willie Dixon
The Cult
The Police
Bedrock
Lamb
PJ Harvey
Primal Scream
LTJ Bukem

I could go on forever...[/QUOTE]

*hands over title*

Good to see some PJ Harvey support, shes still got it even today

Paranoidd 09-23-2004 11:27 AM

Definitely...I loved her new album.

Now if only Portishead would do another album...

Adam Jones is GOD 09-23-2004 11:33 AM

I dont know why, but i always get Massive Attack and Portished mixed up. very off topic, but eeverytime i hear a song, until I hear vocals, I cant tell which is which

Paranoidd 09-23-2004 11:34 AM

They're both trip hop, I like Portishead better. "Dummy" is one of my all time favorite albums.

Adam Jones is GOD 09-23-2004 11:40 AM

I always had a problem defining them, and then once I heard the term Trip Hop, it fit so well. Ill let this thread return to Tool now, ill appreciate that type of music in the other forums, like a good boy

Paranoidd 09-23-2004 11:52 AM

:thumb:

I'm going to try and learn Lateralus when I get home. The power-chord chorus is confusing me for some reason.

Refl 09-23-2004 12:54 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]:thumb:

I'm going to try and learn Lateralus when I get home. The power-chord chorus is confusing me for some reason.[/QUOTE]


Try not to think about the timing too much when you play lateralus, try and get the feel that adam gives out. Im crap on guitar and i can play most tool songs. Im o.k. on drums and i can play any tool song IF i set all my effort into it. I'll try the bass next :wave:

BlinDecsent 09-23-2004 01:11 PM

thats pretty impressive that you can play any tool song on drums. I always thought danny was a mad man with drums.

CanadianToolBassist 09-23-2004 08:12 PM

[QUOTE]Try not to think about the timing too much when you play lateralus, try and get the feel that adam gives out. Im crap on guitar and i can play most tool songs. Im o.k. on drums and i can play any tool song IF i set all my effort into it. I'll try the bass next [/QUOTE]

i have such bad drum timing, hands and feet go together at the same time and it just gets messy. kudos on attempting the bass, some tool songs sound quite good, and most are super simple to learn(i.e. Ticks & Leeches). Learn 46 & 2 on bass. especially if you have a distortion pedal. Just beautiful. Relection and Disposition as well.

nrvn55 09-23-2004 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]:thumb:

I'm going to try and learn Lateralus when I get home. The power-chord chorus is confusing me for some reason.[/QUOTE]

work on your picking hand more then you're fret hand. adam has very choppy strokes with chunky muted parts. concentrate more on the strumming patterns more then any thing because that is the most difficult part bout tool.

IvortheEngineDriver 09-24-2004 07:16 AM

it took me a while to see what Justin was doing on the last verse, but he is using a wah with some distortion...its probably my fave Tool track right now, hopefully, I will learn it after I get done flunking the 2 tests I have today :(


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