I agree with Grey Incision, the acoustic parts don't fit in as well, and the vocals are worse, and the production quality is pretty bad. Although I would say Morningrise is probably my favourite album after BWP, so don't get me wrong, I love the CD, but with all Opeth's greatness, I have come to expect better than completely awsome albums.

Edit: I'm learning Benighted on guitar, great fingerpicking song!

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]i never knew this till now but did you know that MAYH is actually a long story, like still life, i found this at sonicdeath.com:
The story tells of a man that died prematurely before being stranded on earth in his spirit form. His attempts to keep his grasp on the physical world are futile — all he can do is watch the world through spring to winter as his lover's devotion to him melts away in front of his very eyes.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the fact that the last lyric to every song is the title of the next track made me believe it was a story.I love that album.I love how the clean vocals sound "ghost-like".Mikael's vocals on When give me the chills everytime.I think that cd is probably his best vocal performance.Well, the singing anyway.I like the growling on BWP better.

MAYH is my second favourite album, it's bloody amazing, april ethereal is and will always remain my favourite opeth song, i love the clean vocals in the middle

I will endure, hide away
I will outrun the scythe, glaring with failure

i just love that part, and the song itself just sounds so good, mikael can write some amazing stuff.

geez, i found this on the 5th page, come on folks, keep this thread alive

in other words.......

BUMP!

Does anyone else think the part in When, when Mikael sings

"And I cried, I knew she had lied,
the obsession had died, it had died"

Sound like a 10 year old poetry class? Although I love that part, sooo good, but the lyrics have always bothered me.

are you kidding? Why do you think this? because he added a rhyming pattern in? it relates completely with the whole song, and if you follow the story, it is the turning poiint in the story.

edit: sorry if this came across as aggresive or anything, but yeah, it fits the song well, i think

It does fit in with the song awsome, I love the part. But rhyming cried, lied and died and then died again, is just so simple. I guess it work well, but just, arghhh.. i dunno it bothers me, it's like hearing a grade 1 poem.

yeah, i can see where your coming from, hehehe, it is a little simplistic, but please, don't use the term grade 1 poem when talking about opeth's lyrics, it just cut me, is all :upset:

[QUOTE=4130]It does fit in with the song awsome, I love the part. But rhyming cried, lied and died and then died again, is just so simple. I guess it work well, but just, arghhh.. i dunno it bothers me, it's like hearing a grade 1 poem.[/QUOTE]
Meh, every band has at least one line that is garbage.

Ok, what does everybody think Opeth's BEST song is. I mean OVERALL BEST, the lyrics, the drums, bass, guitars, vocals.

???

gee, that's a toughy, there are quite a few that have a good standing...........ummm, i can give you top songs for each instrument

1. guitar- I really like Moonlapse Vertigo
2. Bass-To bid you farewell or blackwater park
3. Drums-ummmm, ITMSWS? Demon Of the fall?

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]Meh, every band has at least one line that is garbage.

Ok, what does everybody think Opeth's BEST song is. I mean OVERALL BEST, the lyrics, the drums, bass, guitars, vocals.

???[/QUOTE]

That is a tough one indeed....
I'd say maybe Bleak... or Blackwater Park, but then again there's the songs on Still Life... and a select few on MAYH.... even some worthy ones on Deliverance... meh, yes that's a hard question.....

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]gee, that's a toughy, there are quite a few that have a good standing...........ummm, i can give you top songs for each instrument

1. guitar- I really like Moonlapse Vertigo
2. Bass-To bid you farewell or blackwater park
3. Drums-ummmm, ITMSWS? Demon Of the fall?[/QUOTE]
Personally, I like Blackrose Immortal the best. Morning rise is an amazing album.

blackrose immortal is an awesome song, but i don't think it is the best instrumentally wise.........****, i forgot one, it has to be the best Opeth song instrumentally(well, IMO).........THE TWILIGHT IS MY ROBE.......

amazing song that, really superb stuff, especially the solo, now that's a treat

...................../sounds like richie benaud :upset:

Black Rose Immortal is good but not the best, in my opinion.

[QUOTE]Originally Posted By [B]amostbitterseason[/B]
Meh, every band has at least one line that is garbage.

Ok, what does everybody think Opeth's BEST song is. I mean OVERALL BEST, the lyrics, the drums, bass, guitars, vocals.

???[/QUOTE]

I'd say
Lyrics-Face Of Melinda or April Ethereal
Guitar-Moonlapse Vertigo or A Fair Judgement
Bass-Advent
Drums-umm not sure maybe Wreath??

overall best song IMO would be a three way tie between To Bid You Farewell, Advent and The Moor

Guitar - Black Rose Immortal
Bass - This one is hard but I think im going to say Nectar or Advent
Drums - Deliverance
Lyrics - The Moor and To Bid You Farewell

Opeth's overall best is Black Rose Immortal. It's absolutley amazing. Forest of October comes pretty close. Yeah I love the Orchid and Morningrise stuff.

Deliverance deffinetly has the best drums, the outro is :thumb:

who do you guys reckon was better, the old or new bass player? I'd have to say the old

DeFarfalla's style wouldn't fit Opeth's sound past the first two albums.

i hate people who say opeth is boring, they arent boring at all. you just need to have an appreciation for the music. the acoustic intros own. i dont know any other band in death that uses acoustic.

advent=my fav

yeah, i would say he probably would be a better bassist, but you don't know, since the bass lines in the old stuff is quite prominent, in the new stuff, it's just there, ya know?

Right, but if Mendez went off the way DeFarfalla did it wouldn't sound good at all with Opeth's current sound. Sometimes the better bass player is the one who knows when NOT to play. Mendez's style fits Opeth's current sound perfectly, he locks in with Lopez and makes a solid rythmn section for the guitars to do their thing over.

that's true, and even in a song like blackwater park, he's shown us he can shine a little, so all is well.

Actually, Mike wrote almost all of the bass parts for Orchid and Morningrise, which were the albums when DeFarfalla was still with the band. In my opinion, Mendez is far better than DeFarfalla was, not only because the music is better fitting, but because he can really ****ing shred on bass (just ask anyone on the Opeth threads at Ultimate Metal).

Aye, he's a better musician. You have to look harder to see what he's doing, but his approach is very interesting and unique. I love the Martins. :)

apparently DeFarfalla was "too boring" for the band, i thought he was pretty good, his bass lines were pretty rockin

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Aye, he's a better musician. You have to look harder to see what he's doing, but his approach is very interesting and unique. I love the Martins. :)[/QUOTE]

It's weird that they're both named Martin, both came from Brazil (Not sure on that one) and both joined at the same time, eh?

^^ :lol: Yeah. I believe that they knew eachother, Mikael met one and that one recommended the other. It's very Quentin Tarantino-esque, though. :lol:

Those guys work together brilliantly, though...Lopez is one of my favorite drummers right now.

Yeah, Lopez joined up and then brought Mendez with him. I think it's cool how they're both trilingual too (Spanish, Swedish, and English). They're from Uraguay btw, not Brazil.

Man, this thread has to reach 1000, so bumpity bump.

I'm trying to find Orchind, its the only album I need to complete my Opeth collection. What are the extra's on the re-issue, because it is $10 more expencive than the original so I can't decide. But you get that sexy round, silver case with the re-issue.

yep, so there is no contest really is there

[QUOTE=4130]Man, this thread has to reach 1000, so bumpity bump.

I'm trying to find Orchind, its the only album I need to complete my Opeth collection. What are the extra's on the re-issue, because it is $10 more expencive than the original so I can't decide. But you get that sexy round, silver case with the re-issue.[/QUOTE]



Orchid is a great one. The recording quality isn't the greatest, but for some reason, I like it that way. I knew when I first listened to "In Mist She Was Standing" That Opeth was my new juice :thumb:
















"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process
that he does not become a monster. And when you look long
into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you"


-Frederick Wilhelm Nietzche-

[QUOTE=Flynn]Orchid is a great one. The recording quality isn't the greatest, but for some reason, I like it that way. I knew when I first listened to "In Mist She Was Standing" That Opeth was my new juice :thumb:


















[SIZE=4]"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process
that he does not become a monster. And when you look long
into the abys, the abyss also looks into you"



-Frederick Wilhelm Nietzche-[/QUOTE][/SIZE]


Mmmmm, good ol' Nietzche. :thumb:



How would you guys describe Mikael's growling technique? I have herd of it referred to as "whisper growling".

???

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason][/SIZE]


Mmmmm, good ol' Nietzche. :thumb:



How would you guys describe Mikael's growling technique? I have herd of it referred to as "whisper growling".

???[/QUOTE]

Whisper growling? Nah.. it's pretty strong if you ask me, not "whisper-ish"...
Though I've noticed as the albums have gone by, Mikael's growl has gotten stronger.. Deliverance has some great growling on it. I think he's got a great growl that doesn't make the music to heavy but at the same time keeps your attention only to lead you into a verse of Mikael's soft vocals, which are some of the best vocals I've ever heard... The song "Deliverance" does this for example... Mikael has a great talent :thumb:

[QUOTE=4130]Deliverance deffinetly has the best drums, the outro is :thumb:[/QUOTE]

**** straight, I love the outro ^^

^That's the song/part that got me hooked

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason][/SIZE]


Mmmmm, good ol' Nietzche. :thumb:



How would you guys describe Mikael's growling technique? I have herd of it referred to as "whisper growling".

???[/QUOTE]


Yes I agree, I can sing along with him as long as I am whispering hehe, But his voice has bass to it, I don't know how he sings like he does. It's very Unique though :cool:







[I]
The cold season drifts over the land.
They huddle in the brown corners. Some would settle for less.
The castles were all empty, asleep. Long awaiting their king.
Beckoning round the bend.
Amidst the forest one would hear that I had been there.
Draped within a fate I could not change, and always welcoming Winter´s Epilouge. [/I] [B]-Karma-[/B]

I just recieved Deliverance as an early Christmas present, which leaves only MAYH left to get :thumb:

[QUOTE=Iron Man]I just recieved Deliverance as an early Christmas present, which leaves only MAYH left to get :thumb:[/QUOTE]



If you have yet to hear any tracks from My Arms, Your Hearse, I recomend you listen to all tracks on order with headphones and the booklet out. :thumb: Thats what I did and what a KICK *** experience!

[QUOTE=Flynn]If you have yet to hear any tracks from My Arms, Your Hearse, I recomend you listen to all tracks on order with headphones and the booklet out. :thumb: Thats what I did and what a KICK *** experience![/QUOTE]

I plan to get it as soon as I can find it. Then I will have all 7 albums, the DVD, AND a shirt! :p