[QUOTE=ThomasReinholder]wtf r u talking about? like a death metal voice?[/QUOTE]

yes, death metal voice.

[QUOTE=kidthatplaysguitar91]ok to practice singing i took one singing lesson and he gave me some breathing stuff, probally go to more soon, but ive been matching notes with my voice that i play on keyboard, and i can do that ok but when i stop playing the notes on the keyboard to see what it sounds like without it, the notes not 100 percent clear, and a little shaky, its not vibrato thought, just not staying clear, will this fix itself after time??, or is there an exercise i should do to keep it clear??[/QUOTE]


can anyone answer this??

Can anyone give mr any recourses for excercises that help build up good chest/bass resonance?

[QUOTE=GDan]Can anyone give mr any recourses for excercises that help build up good chest/bass resonance?[/QUOTE]Its a tricky thing to talk about resonance over the internet. I know I've said that a million times.
[QUOTE=kidthatplaysguitar91]can anyone answer this??[/QUOTE]Thats a hard question to answer. Could still be your breath support, but who knows without a sample. Practice on Ah be sure your tongue is relaxed. Try pressing it against your bottom teeth kinda hard as a way to make sure youre not pulling it back. This of course is not something you would want to make a habit of. Be patient and ask your teacher about it. Nothing like personal attention. All I could say right now is be sure your bottom jaw is loose and dont worry about any other part of your mouth. Keep that attention and practice mid and lower mid Oh's and ah's, and try to sound like youre in an opera.

[QUOTE=heavy metal kid]can anyone tell me what's the technique behind cookie monster vocals?
Basically how to do it.

any link will help.[/QUOTE]

I just think I should warn you about that Tony Bullard thing, if anyone ever gives it to you or if you ever find it. It's incorrect, it gets results fast but ruins your voice, sounds pretty bad and [I]is not [/I]the way it is done traditionally. I recommend you listen to Deicide's first album, then their latest. It shows how he uses less rasp on the early ones so you can hear how an "intermediate" growling voice should sound.

Have I got this right? I have only been practising for about a week and I couldn’t really tell what you meant by not singing from your throat when I first started. Well this how it feels for me, there seems to be a upper and lower bit of my throat. The lower one seems as that’s where im meant to be singing from and the upper one acts more as a reflex action which I need to learn to relax other wise it restricts the air flow.

[QUOTE=Toaster]I just think I should warn you about that Tony Bullard thing, if anyone ever gives it to you or if you ever find it. It's incorrect, it gets results fast but ruins your voice, sounds pretty bad and [I]is not [/I]the way it is done traditionally. I recommend you listen to Deicide's first album, then their latest. It shows how he uses less rasp on the early ones so you can hear how an "intermediate" growling voice should sound.[/QUOTE]

Oh thanks, i just bought their first album and the Best of.

How do you get vibrato into your voice? There is absolutely no sign of vibrato in my voice.

[QUOTE=kidthatplaysguitar91]How do you get vibrato into your voice? There is absolutely no sign of vibrato in my voice.[/QUOTE]

Keep singing normally. Once you get your voice strong it will come naturally.

[QUOTE=panthersfan16]Keep singing normally. Once you get your voice strong it will come naturally.[/QUOTE]


Yay no work involved :chug:

Actually its kind of the opposite but hey, :cheers:

[QUOTE=kidthatplaysguitar91]How do you get vibrato into your voice? There is absolutely no sign of vibrato in my voice.[/QUOTE]
vibrato is a by-product of relaxed isolated singing and proper breath support(diaphragm....yawn). If youre tensing the larynx or overblowing you can chalk it up. It really is rather independent of strength but directly related to proper technique. Practice Ah's. Can't get more open and relaxed than that. Go limp(relax everything, including your eyebrows and your as[I]s[/I]hole), drop the bottom jaw a bit like its on a hinge, and hold it at speaking pitch. Wonder why your doctor tells you to say ah and not E? Because it naturally relaxes the larynx and opens your throat up...so he can see in.

hello merkeba...i just want to know why it hurts my throat and i push too much force when i sing..ive tried to avoid it but i cudnt..can u tell me how i can?and how i can sing freely..

and plus now a days i find myself yawning when i sing...im in a band..

Hey,
I have been working on screaming like Keith Buckley from Every Time I Die, but my problem is, I have like next to little volume when I try to do it, like it comes out a whisper. And when I try to push it further it goes almost clean and sounds dorky. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks

[QUOTE=eleesar]hello merkeba...i just want to know why it hurts my throat and i push too much force when i sing..ive tried to avoid it but i cudnt..can u tell me how i can?and how i can sing freely..[/QUOTE]
Gotta get to work. But if it hurts youre doing something dead wrong. Either pushing too much and/or tensing up the throat. You should practice singing a song by using all "ah's" as the words...and if its high stay an octave lower. And not so loud. Sounds corney but it helps. Sooner or later youre gonna have to find a way to seperate and isolate the cords from the throat and get a feel for being able to create a note without forcing anything, and being able to hold that note while increasing push from the diaphragm, which isnt connecting to the throat. Many people make the mistake of "pushing" the throat(tensing up) when they try to push out a note. Probably one of the most commona vocal mistakes.


[QUOTE=MetalicVampire]Hey,
I have been working on screaming like Keith Buckley from Every Time I Die, but my problem is, I have like next to little volume when I try to do it, like it comes out a whisper. And when I try to push it further it goes almost clean and sounds dorky. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Can you sing? Post a sample. You need singing breath support. If you can hold a high note with the gut then screaming is next to nothing. I guarantee you either your singing notes have no support or youre tensing up the throat so much your cords cant even vibrate properly and/or consistently enough to get a good tone

Gotta get to work for now.

[QUOTE=Merkaba]vibrato is a by-product of relaxed isolated singing and proper breath support(diaphragm....yawn). If youre tensing the larynx or overblowing you can chalk it up. It really is rather independent of strength but directly related to proper technique. Practice Ah's. Can't get more open and relaxed than that. Go limp(relax everything, including your eyebrows and your as[I]s[/I]hole), drop the bottom jaw a bit like its on a hinge, and hold it at speaking pitch. Wonder why your doctor tells you to say ah and not E? Because it naturally relaxes the larynx and opens your throat up...so he can see in.[/QUOTE]


i'll try that, jeez you know alot about singing.

[QUOTE=kidthatplaysguitar91]i'll try that, jeez you know alot about singing.[/QUOTE]
Actually around here I'm usually repeating one of three or four things for the most part, just from a different perspective. But thanks anyways. I just try to share what I know. :wave:

[QUOTE=MetalicVampire]Hey,
I have been working on screaming like Keith Buckley from Every Time I Die, but my problem is, I have like next to little volume when I try to do it, like it comes out a whisper. And when I try to push it further it goes almost clean and sounds dorky. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

His screaming technique really isn't that good at all... he just raises his voice to the point where it starts cracking.

He used to do that. He screams properly now, though.

Whisper Screamo
 

Nothing is wrong with whisper screamo man, i have heaps of range, but if u got a mic, cup ur hands hold it 30cms back and whisper scream hard, pretty easy

yeah
 

just whisper it 30 cms fffffrom the mi9c, easy, doesnt damage ur voice, like i nearly did, and it still has great effect

whisper scream=oxymoron/paradox

Do it on stage and hope it sounds ok. More than likely it will sound sh[I]i[/I]tty. Plus its not healthy.

hey, when I sing while I'm playing guitar I think I sound like a good singer...but if I tape myself and play it back I hear myself as singing very nasally and not too pleasing to my ear. I'm singing in the right key and everything...I just don't like the way my voice sounds. Is this normal or does that mean I'm just a lousy singer and is there something I can do to fix that? Also, how come the voice sounds so much different when you hear yourself normally than it does on tape? Thanks a lot for the help...

Because when you hear yourself youre hearing with your whole body, namely the extra resonance and "sympathetic" vibrations from the air in the sinuses and all the water in your brain. When you record and play it back you dont hear all of that.

ya you will always sound different to yourself than you do to everyone else. look at it like this, say you have a tuning for, hit it and the liston to it right by your ear. now hit it again and set the end of it (handle part) against your head. you will be able to hear it threw your head that way

when you talk you not only hear your voice but also the bone vibrations and such. thats why you sound different

[QUOTE=Chop Suey!]how can i do those crazy death metal growls without hurting my voice? sorry if this has been posted before.[/QUOTE]
hurt your voicee if you have to:amaze:

^ i wouldnt suggest doing that, but check around. i think there is a thread somewhere about that

isnt all screaming bad for your voice?

I have a problem in that I have a low range voice and need to sing a couple of high range songs for my band. Is it possible to find a way of extending your range or shouold I just abandon the idea completely? Also, having a low voice I also have a problem in that the tone and qwuality of sound I produce is too brash or simply too plain. Sometimes it can produce a nice texture but only within a certain small pitchrange. Once ive left that I can sing, but not without losing most of the quality of sound that I can otherwise get. Any pointeers?

Cheers