[QUOTE=Kage]Sort of... there's a [URL=http://www.nin.com/access/index.html]section[/URL] on the official NIN site where Trent answers questions from fans from time to time.[/QUOTE]
Well I read that, but I never notice it getting updated, so I give up on it sometimes...

^^ [url]www.theninhotline.com[/url] ..they're usually pretty up to date with interviews, news, or anything new...I think i've posted this site on here before.

[QUOTE=Lazy Beggar]Just thought I would say that thanks to this thread I got into NIN, got TDS first and then Fragile. Must say I prefer TDS but still I like Fragile, not sure what side I prefer yet though. I got PHM tonight and I wasn't too impressed by it on first listening and I got WT aswell, which I am listening to now, seems quite good.

I checked NIN out a while ago but found it too heavy for my liking but recently I have been getting into a more broad spectrum of music, and I found myself liking heavier bands like Tool and I seen them mentioned in this thread so I thought, "I might aswell check them out, it probably can't kill me." Pleased I did. So cheers. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Awesome, thats good to hear.
Tool is also a great band. You should get more into them also if yuo haven't already.

Since this is basically a general NIN thread now, does anyone have every song from Still that I could somehow get off them. I'm loving the 3 songs I've heard from it so far (AATCHB,Leaving Hope, The Persistence Of Loss) but I can't find it on any file sharing programs. Are the 'deconstructed' versions of the older songs very good?

I was thinking of making a CD for a friend who wants to get into Nine Inch Nails. More of an opinionative thing...but just say the songs that best sum up their career, including the With Teeth songs. My tracklist so far (it would be a double album, haven't arranged them into an order of my liking yet) is this :

1.Down In It
2.Head Like A Hole
3.Sin
4.Terrible Lie
5.Something I Can Never Have
6.Wish
7.Happiness In Slavery
8.Gave Up
9.Last
10.March Of The Pigs
11.Closer
12.Mr. Self Destruct
13.Heresy
14.Piggy
15.Reptile
16.Eraser
17.Burn
18.The Perfect Drug
19.The Day The World Went Away
20.We're In This Together
21.The Fragile
22.Somewhat Damaged
23.The Wretched
24.Star****ers Inc.
25.Into The Void
26.Where Is Everybody?
27.The Big Comedown
28.Complication
29.And All That Could've Been
30.The Hand That Feeds
31.The Line Begins To Blur
32.All The Love In The World
33.You Know Who You Are?
34.Every Day Is Exactly The Same
35.Sunspots
36.Right Where It Belongs
37.Hurt

Now I notice I'll have to make some more glaring omissions to this tracklist as there is no way this can fit on 2 CD's. What ones do you think I should leave out or what ones do you think should be there that aren't even there? :wave:

[QUOTE=AIC/EAZY-E]Now I notice I'll have to make some more glaring omissions to this tracklist as there is no way this can fit on 2 CD's. What ones do you think I should leave out or what ones do you think should be there that aren't even there? :wave:[/QUOTE]
I think The Becoming and Somewhat Damaged should be on there :thumb:

That's a pretty comprehensive list. Perhaps you should consider putting it on an Mp3 disc if you or your friend have those capabilities. I would cut down on the WT (Sunspots and THTF in specific) and take out Starfu[i]c[/i]kers, Where Is Everybody, Burn, and Last.

Yeah, I agree with Magicaltroll834 about adding "The Becoming"...Then again, that is one of my personal favorite songs off of TDS.

Personally, I don't think I could ever make a NIN compilation without Just Like You Imagined, or indeed A Warm Place. I'd have thought a couple of the Fragile tracks in that list could be removed in favour of them, but then, it's not my compilation.

With more listens, I've decided that I was wrong in saying there are no bad songs. Sunspots is the only bad one, it's quite boring.

Heh. You know, I don't think "Sunspots" is a bad song...but it is probably my least favorite on there. Maybe it will eventually grow on me.

Since it didnt come with a booklet, some people are printing the .pdf file as a poster on Echoing the sound. Itll probably cost you about 50-70$ to do it yourself so its not a bad deal, I got two.

[url]http://www.werewolffeet.com/poster/[/url]

[QUOTE=AIC/EAZY-E]
1.Down In It
2.Head Like A Hole
3.Sin
4.Terrible Lie
5.Something I Can Never Have
6.Wish
7.Happiness In Slavery
10.March Of The Pigs
11.Closer
13.Heresy
15.Reptile
16.Eraser
17.Burn
18.The Perfect Drug
19.The Day The World Went Away
20.We're In This Together
21.The Fragile
22.Somewhat Damaged
24.Star****ers Inc.
28.Complication
29.And All That Could've Been
30.The Hand That Feeds
32.All The Love In The World
33.You Know Who You Are?
34.Every Day Is Exactly The Same
36.Right Where It Belongs
37.Hurt
?.A Warm Place

What ones do you think I should leave out or what ones do you think should be there that aren't even there? :wave:[/QUOTE]

I think that would be a good one, don't overdo it. You don't need to put every single NIN song you like on it for it to be a good introduction. Hell, Closer Hurt and The Perfect Drug would be a decent introduction.

[QUOTE=misunderstood]Heh. You know, I don't think "Sunspots" is a bad song...but it is probably my least favorite on there. Maybe it will eventually grow on me.[/QUOTE]
I love that song :D

Is anyone else having trouble downloading the pdf?
[url]http://www.nin.com/with_teeth/content.asp[/url]

I've heard great things about the artwork, and the suspense is killing me.

I was able to download and open it without a problem, but trying to scroll through it really stalled my computer. It's a really massive document, and there's no easy way to print it like Trent says.

[QUOTE=jeffro]I've heard great things about the artwork, and the suspense is killing me.[/QUOTE]
In all honesty, it was nothing spectacular. I really didn't mind not having linear notes, but the only thing that I was really interested in finding out was which songs Dave drums on (fairly obvious for the most part) and which Jerome drums on.

A Warm Place is an excellent introduction to Eraser, those two together are one of my favourite moments in music,period. But, it probably wouldn't appeal to a person who is hearing NIN for the first time.
What is everyones opinions on the soundtrack-only song 'Deep'?

its not his best but its OK
 

i think that "with teeth" is not the best NIN album but its OK. Its more POP the his other album. For me, the best song of the album it right where it blong. When we heard all the fans behing, its amazing.

i hope the next album will be more like the downward spiral :thumb:

[QUOTE=up_the_iron]i think that "with teeth" is not the best NIN album but its OK. Its more POP the his other album. For me, the best song of the album it right where it blong. When we heard all the fans behing, its amazing.

i hope the next album will be more like the downward spiral :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Nah, its not gonna happen like that. I would also like tha a little bit too. But I'm more interested in whatever he wants to do, because its pretty cool watching a band/musician shape their sound through all of their albums.

While I'm pretty sure it will be slightly similiar to WT, I still wanna see what happenes with it.

Personally I think its a really good album...fair enough its different from his other albums but what could you expect? Favourite songs probaly All The Love In The World and Right Where It Belongs :thumb:

[QUOTE=Kaden]With more listens, I've decided that I was wrong in saying there are no bad songs. Sunspots is the only bad one, it's quite boring.[/QUOTE]
I like Sunspots, but I think Getting Smaller is the worst song on the album. My reason being is that it's boring, and I find little about it to be very NIN-like at all.

Deep is okay, but there are better non-album songs than it.

EDIT: Woah, for a second there I had mixed up Deep with Dead Souls. Deep is actually an awesome song, I hadn't listened to it in awhile since you mentioned it.

Trent's music is evolving, he's not going to try and make another Downward Spiral. I love With Teeth, but I'm hoping he never plays with Grohl again, or uses straight live drums for that matter. While it works for the most part on With Teeth, another album in that style would be stupid, I think.

And like Trent says, With Teeth is what it is. That doesn't mean he's going to suddenly be writing like With Teeth, but it doesn't mean he's going to "go back" to any of his previous styles either. The next release could be a complete 180; There's no reason to assume that this marks the end of the old and the beginning of some kind of new trend.

my girlfriend bought this album, and i have been listening to it

their general sound has been growing on me after repeated listenings to of this album, so i may check out their back catalogue, the last track is my fave though, and 'the hand that feeds', complete catchiness

I just got it. And I love it. Even With Teeth the song. It's pretty light on the usualy synths and stuff but I still think it's amazing and so far, has no bads songs. I love the new version of Right Where It Belongs as well.

I just finished reading an interview with Reznor in the new SPIN magazine and good news: he's got alot of new stuff ready for another album which he hopes to release within a year! I know we had already discussed this earlier in this thread, but I don't think there was any "assurance" as to how long before the next album. Anyway, just thought I'd share this with fellow NIN fans. The interview is pretty interesting. He's also on the cover of Revolver. Both interviews talk pretty much about the same thing.

Anyway, so in both articles (and every other interview he's made) he talks about the last four years of his life, addiction, denial, etc, etc. I was reading one particular part of an interview where he's talking about the 12-step program and how the ninth step suggests you make amends with those you hurt while abusing alcohol...and how although people are grateful you're alive, they're not always forgiving or accepting. The first thing that came to my mind was APC'S "The Noose". Heh. Then I started thinking about "Thirteenth Step" and some of the interviews Maynard had done at the time of the release. I remember he kept mentioning how he had some dear friends that were going through and had already gone through this 12-step program. I don't know if I'm just overanalyzing this here or was Keenan referring to Reznor alot of the time throughout the album? I mean, I'm sure the whole album wasn't about him...but it just kind of makes sense. They've both been friends for a very long time now and by the looks of continue to be (even after the little fall out with Tapeworm). I mean, he was even thanked in the "With Teeth" credits. Anyway, I could be completely off with this but I just thought that was a bit interesting.

I think it's awesome that the new material is already starting to come around, but I'm still not assured that it will be within a year. He talks a big one now, but we'll see :p

And I never even thought about what you said about 13th Step, but it seems that it is very possible. That's a cool observation.

[QUOTE=misunderstood]I just finished reading an interview with Reznor in the new SPIN magazine and good news: he's got alot of new stuff ready for another album which he hopes to release within a year! I know we had already discussed this earlier in this thread, but I don't think there was any "assurance" as to how long before the next album. Anyway, just thought I'd share this with fellow NIN fans. The interview is pretty interesting. He's also on the cover of Revolver. Both interviews talk pretty much about the same thing.

Anyway, so in both articles (and every other interview he's made) he talks about the last four years of his life, addiction, denial, etc, etc. I was reading one particular part of an interview where he's talking about the 12-step program and how the ninth step suggests you make amends with those you hurt while abusing alcohol...and how although people are grateful you're alive, they're not always forgiving or accepting. The first thing that came to my mind was APC'S "The Noose". Heh. Then I started thinking about "Thirteenth Step" and some of the interviews Maynard had done at the time of the release. I remember he kept mentioning how he had some dear friends that were going through and had already gone through this 12-step program. I don't know if I'm just overanalyzing this here or was Keenan referring to Reznor alot of the time throughout the album? I mean, I'm sure the whole album wasn't about him...but it just kind of makes sense. They've both been friends for a very long time now and by the looks of continue to be (even after the little fall out with Tapeworm). I mean, he was even thanked in the "With Teeth" credits. Anyway, I could be completely off with this but I just thought that was a bit interesting.[/QUOTE]
That is very interesting.
I kinda hope they are really good friends, because that means possible NIN and Tool tour. And I would kill to see that. Seriously, that would be the best experience of my whole life :D

Maynard isn't a stupid lyricist, the '13th Step' observation is more than likely correct.

[QUOTE=3rdplanet]Maynard isn't a stupid lyricist, the '13th Step' observation is more than likely correct.[/QUOTE]
Who said he was a stupid lyricist :confused:

[QUOTE=Kage]I like Sunspots, but I think Getting Smaller is the worst song on the album. My reason being is that it's boring, and I find little about it to be very NIN-like at all. [/QUOTE]
I didn't mean Sunspots, I got confused. Sunspots is cool. I meant The Collector, that's just boring.

[QUOTE=Kaden]I didn't mean Sunspots, I got confused. Sunspots is cool. I meant The Collector, that's just boring.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I was surprised because I think Sunspots is a really good song. I didn't think The Collector was that good at first either, but now it's really grown on me quite a bit. I love the piano line as he sings "every last one, every last one."