I want a 16" medium or medium thin, darkish crash for prog/modern rock like APC, Porcupine Tree, VAST. Any suggestions?

Cymbals for metal music and Zildjian brand only.

Why stick with Zildjian? What if the sound you are looking for is in a Sabian, Paiste, Ufip, Meinl, Wuhan, Istanbul Agop, Istanbul Mehment, Turkish, or Bosphorous line?

Seriously, you're being VERY narrowminded here.

Anyway, for metal, I would suggest A Medium to Rock Crashes, probably 17-20" in size. But if you want to get cheaper cymbals, I would go for the AA Medium to Rock crashes, 17-20", but since you seem to ONLY want Zildjian, go for it.

Or if you want really heavy, get some Paiste 2002 crashes. Oh wait, no, you don't want the best, you just want the name, never mind.

[QUOTE=ZildjianFrk89]Cymbals for metal music and Zildjian brand only.[/QUOTE]

pitch preferance? Budget? particular models?

be specific dude. thats all i ask in this thread.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Why stick with Zildjian? What if the sound you are looking for is in a Sabian, Paiste, Ufip, Meinl, Wuhan, Istanbul Agop, Istanbul Mehment, Turkish, or Bosphorous line?

Seriously, you're being VERY narrowminded here.

Anyway, for metal, I would suggest A Medium to Rock Crashes, probably 17-20" in size. But if you want to get cheaper cymbals, I would go for the AA Medium to Rock crashes, 17-20", but since you seem to ONLY want Zildjian, go for it.

Or if you want really heavy, get some Paiste 2002 crashes. Oh wait, no, you don't want the best, you just want the name, never mind.[/QUOTE]

Does it really matter what brand it is??? I trust Zildjian more than the other brands because Zildjian has been around longer than Sabian and since our school uses Zildjian I play them a lot and I really like the sounds of their cymbals. So why are u people getting all mad just because I like Zildjian? A lot of other people do on these forums...i just don't get why you get all mad? Even famous metal drummers use Zildjian such as Lars Ulrich. Also Steve Gadd the best drummer in 2003 uses Zildjian. I'll pick the cymbals that I like....also Zildjian is one of the best.



to bobby johnny
cymbals that have a loud and quick sound and with lots of durability for hitting hard.

I would recommend Sabian AAX Metal, AA Metal-x line for the you probably want but since i don't really knw to much bout zildjian I'd say Z cust. or also look into paiste rudes, AA Rock/ Medium, Meinl Amun mediums, Meinl Raker, Meinl Mb20, A Mediums and rocks....

[QUOTE=ZildjianFrk89]Does it really matter what brand it is??? I trust Zildjian more than the other brands because Zildjian has been around longer than Sabian and since our school uses Zildjian I play them a lot and I really like the sounds of their cymbals. So why are u people getting all mad just because I like Zildjian? A lot of other people do on these forums...i just don't get why you get all mad? Even famous metal drummers use Zildjian such as Lars Ulrich. Also Steve Gadd the best drummer in 2003 uses Zildjian. I'll pick the cymbals that I like....also Zildjian is one of the best.



to bobby johnny
cymbals that have a loud and quick sound and with lots of durability for hitting hard.[/QUOTE]

"Does it realy matter what brand it is?"
No. Which is why it shouldn't matter to you either. Self-pwn. :p
Oh, and since you're provoking argument, many of todays top manufacturers evolved from Zildjian, and since evolution is progress, in theory Sabian is better than Zildjian! How d'you like them apples?
(It's alright, I'm just messing :D)

Anyway, since you asked, I think you should just try out any and all Zildjians you can, but since you hit hard, A's and Z's would be your best bet, larger sizes, i.e. 16" minimum.

I like Zildjians too. I never said anything was wrong with them. Thats all my school has, but....seriously, why stick to them. I saved probably $50 to get my Sabian AA rathern then buying a Zildjian Avedis crash, and they're virtually the same thing.

And I don't really care what famous drummer drums with Zildjian. My favorite drummer played Paiste....do you think I'm gonna get Paiste? Probably not, even though I've considered a 2002 crash.

yup, i really like paistes, but i wont spend 800 on a pair o' hats, i cant

Anyone have an opinion about the 14' K/Z special hats? I've been looking at them because I tried a pair of brilliant finish 13' new beats, which were too bright and trebly for me, they almost drown out my snare. The K/Z's seem to be a lot darker, i want something dark and with a wash that isn't too loud. I'm open to other brands as well.

Oh and i'll probably sound like a brand whore here, but opinions on getting a 17' K custom dark crash as the main and a 19' Avedish Thin crash? I like my cymbals big and pretty low pitched but not too loud, was thinking about the A custom projections but they sound like they'll be too loud.

P.s. the only reason I'm going for zildjians is because most music stores in my country stock mainly zildjians, and i can usually get a bit of a discount on them.

i'm looking for a very flashy crash yet fast decay, but im on a budget $500. Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=borge]i'm looking for a very flashy crash yet fast decay, but im on a budget $500. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

THIN!

16 in k custom fast crash

Hey guys, could you suggest a China cymbal that will go well with my current cymbals? I really don't have a limit to my budget for this cymbal. Also, I perfer Zildjian cymbals but I'll try anything that you guys think will go well.

--Current Setup--
14" A Custom Mastersound Hats
16" A Custom Projection Crash
18" Z Custom Medium Crash
20" A Custom Ping Ride
12" A Custom Splash

Thanks

[QUOTE=MWDrummer]Hey guys, could you suggest a China cymbal that will go well with my current cymbals? I really don't have a limit to my budget for this cymbal. Also, I perfer Zildjian cymbals but I'll try anything that you guys think will go well.

--Current Setup--
14" A Custom Mastersound Hats
16" A Custom Projection Crash
18" Z Custom Medium Crash
20" A Custom Ping Ride
12" A Custom Splash

Thanks[/QUOTE]
A Custom China 18", or an Oriental China trash of the same size. other sizes could work as well, but the 18" size is the most versatile.

What do you like better A custom 13" mastersound hi hats. Or K custom 13" hi hats?

Wuhan Chinas!

[QUOTE]What do you like better A custom 13" mastersound hi hats. Or K custom 13" hi hats?[/QUOTE]The K customs, anyways can some one recommend a Hi-Hat that would be nice washy, with good stick definition but not to crisp such as HHX Hats. Sabian prefered but will try other brands also...

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Crash --> Somewhat like the K custom dark crash... a bit cheaper
Splash --> Definite and clear like the HHX evo... again, a bit cheaper

Thanks.

[quote]The K customs, anyways can some one recommend a Hi-Hat that would be nice washy, with good stick definition but not to crisp such as HHX Hats. Sabian prefered but will try other brands also...[/quote]

14" AA Regular hats are a good choice for just about everything...a little darker, try the 14" HHX Groove hats. nice simmer....most likely the next addition to my kit is those hats.

[quote]Crash --> Somewhat like the K custom dark crash... a bit cheaper
Splash --> Definite and clear like the HHX evo... again, a bit cheaper[/quote]

Crash - HHX Studio Crash
Splash - AA Splash

Not long ago I bought a 15 AAX dark crash and I love it. now I'm looking to change my 16'' AA rock cause I don't like it. What would fit really well with the dark crash. maybe the 17'' of the same model? I want something dark, explosive, that will sound more than the 15''.

dp ypu guys know if A custom zildjian crashes are a higher or... uh how can i put this... a higher end quality cymbal?

do you guys know if A custom zildjian crashes are a higher or... uh how can i put this... a higher end quality cymbal?

Yes, they are very high end, proffesional level cymbals.

Not very high end. Very high end is paiste signatures. But yes they are high end zildjians.

[quote]What would fit really well with the dark crash. maybe the 17'' of the same model? I want something dark, explosive, that will sound more than the 15''.[/quote]

17" or 18" HHX Stage Crash.

[QUOTE=drummer172]Not very high end. Very high end is paiste signatures. But yes they are high end zildjians.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about?

what would you guys suggest for a ride?

[QUOTE=meizmatt]what would you guys suggest for a ride?[/QUOTE]

Do you have a budget? What styles are you going to play with it? Are you a brand whore? Do you have other cymbals you'd like it to blend with? Anything else you think would help us to help?

[QUOTE=meizmatt]what would you guys suggest for a ride?[/QUOTE]

sound? budget? brand?