[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Dude. fourfa.com is completely wrong about the evolution of emo from 1994-present. If you'd like, after dinner I'll write it out for you vallely.[/QUOTE]

How do you know it is wrong?

And is there any other place where we can retrace the evolution of emo from 1994 up to present?

I haven't heard Jets To Brazil yet, but I have heard they are emo. Anyone confirm/deny?

It's all because of the Deep Elm emo conspiracy. : |

The last two pages were awesome. That was some of the best hardcore a[B][I][/I][/B]ss-whooping in the form of lengthy, educational paragraphs I've seen in a while. Nice job.

What would you classify A Static Lullaby into?

popcore/"emocore"

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]
Saosin - Pop Punk
[/QUOTE]

wow, pop punk is getting good then. when i think of pop punk i think of bands i can't stand like good charlotte and stuff.

and i have a question. does anybody know if there are any more live saeita songs out there besides the five on a retrospective: the poet you never were, ariadne’s thread, notres langues nous trompent, the sweetness and the light, and endymion? cause i would really like to find some more.

Pop-punk has a lot of good bands. GC are not pop-punk, just pop.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]Pop-punk has a lot of good bands. GC are not pop-punk, just pop.[/QUOTE]

oh. well, i like brand new's latest cd deja entendu. but that was the only band i liked that i thought was pop-punk. but i guess there are others. rise against is punk, not pop punk, right?

I would just like to commend Subtle and DFelon for the near legendary pwning these last two pages. Wish I could've been around to lend a helping hand.

[QUOTE=srt-4]oh. well, i like brand new's latest cd deja entendu. but that was the only band i liked that i thought was pop-punk. but i guess there are others. rise against is punk, not pop punk, right?[/QUOTE]
I would say without a doubt that Rise Against is punk.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]I would say without a doubt that Rise Against is punk.[/QUOTE]

ok good, at least i was right about something. the whole saosin being pop punk threw me off though. lol.

[QUOTE=srt-4]and i have a question. does anybody know if there are any more live saeita songs out there besides the five on a retrospective: the poet you never were, ariadne’s thread, notres langues nous trompent, the sweetness and the light, and endymion? cause i would really like to find some more.[/QUOTE]

and a bump for this question

I doubt it. A Retrospective is everything they ever recorded and those 5 songs are likely the only ones the band had in their possession. If there are any other live recordings, they'd be extremely difficult to find.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Some songs even bridge onto hardcore punk like the first song from the new CD. I only have Revolutions per Minute and collected mp3s so I wouldn't really know but whatever. The random mp3s tell a lot actually.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they have a lot of flashes of hardcore but they just have way too much punk in them. Lots of really fast chords and some uncommon melodic lines.

From Lambgoat:
[quote]Haram, a new outfit from the Virginia/D.C. area, have finished recording a demo. The three-song demo was recorded earlier this week with Matt Squire and you can download a song [URL=http://www.harammusic.com/track%2001.mp3]here[/URL]. Haram consists of Kevin Lamiell (Majority Rule), Matt Michel (Majority Rule), Mike Taylor (pg.99), and Andy Gale (Corn on Macabre). The band will play their first show on January 14th in Washington DC at the Warehouse Nextdoor, along with Malady and Envy. The group is also in the process of booking an April tour, which will run from April 1st through the 16th.[/quote]

I'm digging the song. It's not really emo though, reminds me of Malady, but better.

It's pretty good, definitely some emo influence in it. I love pageninetynine and I love Majority Rule more so I'm looking forward to hearing more.

So I checked out Stickfigure records and they have a lot of cool bands. I'm just going to list them under the genre they are closest too, I'm not sure if they are true emo/screamo.

[B]Screamo/Grind/Hardcore[/B]
*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/iwould.mp3]I Would Set Myself On Fire For You- "Chinese Freeze Tag"[/url]
[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/coulier.mp3]Coulier- "F[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]ck F[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]ck F[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]ck"[/url]
*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stick014cd.mp3]Blame Game- "Dr Hathaway"[/url]
[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/chapi.mp3]Blame Game- "Learn(?) To Earn"[/url]
[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/camarocrotch.mp3]Camaro Crotch[/url]
[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stickcdr010.mp3]Me And Him Call It Us- "Innocent Bystanders Watched In Horror As Peter Jennings Drew His Murder Weapon"[/url]
*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/britney.mp3]Lack- "Kill Britney"[/url]

[B]Emo/Hardcore/Post-Hardcore[/B]
*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/003.mp3]Milemaker- "Chronology Of The Service Industry"[/url]
[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/vs.mp3]Death Of Marat- "Science Vs. Sorcery"[/url]
[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stick016cd.mp3]Electrosleep International- "The Great Tomorrowland Famine"[/url]
*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/04.mp3]The Hal Al Shehad- Local Seeing[/url]
*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/06.mp3]Wheeljack- "Kulture Kampf"[/url]

*= Highly Suggested

Feedback on the correct genres would be nice. Electrosleep International has Portrait's drummer.

Oh yeah, Stickfigure had two Potrait songs. The sound quality on "All My Chances" is pretty bad. "Even Now" is great though.

[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/portrait7a.mp3]All My Chances[/url]
[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stickdisc002.mp3]Even Now[/url]

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Going back to Rise Against, I think the reason I like them so much is because it really sounds like they mean it in the music. They are a very political band who do have some variety to their subjects but the way they play their instruments and especially the vocals are really poignant and candid. I love how it inspires me to believe whatever they believe even if it really isn't the way I think. They have that ability to trasmit a palpable yet difficult to pinpoint emotion throughout their music, which is why they totally own, man.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they're so good that way. I'm not really sure how they do it, I think it's the speed and the singer's vocals.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/iwould.mp3]I Would Set Myself On Fire For You- "Chinese Freeze Tag"[/url][/QUOTE]
Owns. Needs to be louder.
[QUOTE]*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stick014cd.mp3]Blame Game- "Dr Hathaway"[/url][/QUOTE]
Same.
[QUOTE][url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/camarocrotch.mp3]Camaro Crotch[/url][/QUOTE]
Worst recording job ever. Sounds like it's done with a stereo and cassete.
[QUOTE][url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stickcdr010.mp3]Me And You Call It Us- "Innocent Bystanders Watched In Horror As Peter Jennings Drew His Murder Weapon"[/url][/QUOTE]
WHY DOES THIS NOT HAVE A FU[b][i][/b][/i]CKING STAR NEXT TO IT THIS OWNS OWNS OWNS BEST SONG BY FAR even though its probably not screamo in any way
[QUOTE]*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/britney.mp3]Lack- "Kill Britney"[/url][/QUOTE]
Haha cowbell. This is pretty good. Great drums. And that guitar thing at 1:45 owns. I like these guys.
[QUOTE]*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/003.mp3]Milemaker- "Chronology Of The Service Industry"[/url][/QUOTE]
The effect thing is cool. If that's a guitar, I hate it. If it's a bass, please use more guitar.
[QUOTE][url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/vs.mp3]Death Of Marat- "Science Vs. Sorcery"[/url]
[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stick016cd.mp3]The Great Tomorrowland Famine[/url][/QUOTE]
Second song is kind of cool. There's a lot of indie here. Still, they're pretty boring most of the time to me.
[QUOTE]*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/04.mp3]The Hal Al Shehad- Local Seeing[/url][/QUOTE]
Get a new name, it sounds too much like Shai Hulud. Also, this sounds really boring to me as well, mostly because of the recording and vocals.
[QUOTE]*[url=http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/06.mp3]Wheeljack- "Kulture Kampf"[/url][/QUOTE]
Jesus, all these bands need a better recording job, they sound the same and a lot of the earlier bands had good recording quality. This sounds a lot like Death Of Marat from before, except the noisy sections are better. I dislike the vocals though.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Going back to Rise Against, I think the reason I like them so much is because it really sounds like they mean it in the music. They are a very political band who do have some variety to their subjects but the way they play their instruments and especially the vocals are really poignant and candid. I love how it inspires me to believe whatever they believe even if it really isn't the way I think. They have that ability to trasmit a palpable yet difficult to pinpoint emotion throughout their music, which is why they totally own, man.[/QUOTE]

you should definitely get siren song of the counter culture. i still like revolutions per minute a little better, but siren song of the counter culture is still really really good.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]Owns. Needs to be louder.

Same.

Worst recording job ever. Sounds like it's done with a stereo and cassete.

WHY DOES THIS NOT HAVE A FU[b][i][/b][/i]CKING STAR NEXT TO IT THIS OWNS OWNS OWNS BEST SONG BY FAR even though its probably not screamo in any way

Haha cowbell. This is pretty good. Great drums. And that guitar thing at 1:45 owns. I like these guys.

The effect thing is cool. If that's a guitar, I hate it. If it's a bass, please use more guitar.

Second song is kind of cool. There's a lot of indie here. Still, they're pretty boring most of the time to me.

Get a new name, it sounds too much like Shai Hulud. Also, this sounds really boring to me as well, mostly because of the recording and vocals.

Jesus, all these bands need a better recording job, they sound the same and a lot of the earlier bands had good recording quality. This sounds a lot like Death Of Marat from before, except the noisy sections are better. I dislike the vocals though.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for actually listening. There's some good stuff there. The recording is horrible on a couple, I don't know why. And I have no idea why I didn't put a star next to Me And You Calls It Us, that song does f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking own.

That part at about 43 seconds into that Me And You Call It Us song kicks my as[b][i][/b][/i]s six ways to Sunday.

:lol:

I downloaded a couple, it's good stuff.

Why the hell did I say 43 seconds?

I meant 23. That part kills.

Yeah, Combatwoundedveteran kick so much as[B][I][/I][/B]s.

This is true.

Scott ( :naughty: ), I saw you say something about Codeseven used to scream? Did I interpret this right?