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ok lateralus 12-25-2005 02:11 PM

Yeah well I'd say their best is either Morningrise or Still Life but a good starting point would be Blackwater Park, or maybe Still Life.

Kaiwaz 12-25-2005 02:20 PM

nah, I wouldn't recommend that at all. What I would do, is get Orchid, and when you have listened to it, get Morningrise, then My Arms Your Hearse etc etc in chronological order. That way, you can see the band slowly change and morph and see all their changes the way it happened. :chug:

Shadius 12-25-2005 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]nah, I wouldn't recommend that at all. What I would do, is get Orchid, and when you have listened to it, get Morningrise, then My Arms Your Hearse etc etc in chronological order. That way, you can see the band slowly change and morph and see all their changes the way it happened. :chug:[/QUOTE]

I don't recommend doing that at all.

I recommend getting an accessable album, and then exploring them from there if you realise you like their sound. If you're looking for mellow with no heavy or death vocals, try Damnation. If you're looking for what Opeth are usually like, I'd recommend Still Life, Blackwater Park, or even their latest album; Ghost Reveries.

Ghost Reveries may be the most accessable album of their usual "mixed heavy/mellow" style.

Darkness 12-25-2005 02:48 PM

I got a nice new Opeth shirt... has the logo in the front, then "Look Your Last Upon the Sun" on the back.

Shred Danson 12-25-2005 05:54 PM

I finally got the Lamenations DVD, woofricken'hoo!

Moses 12-25-2005 05:59 PM

I wouldn't reccomend Flynn's suggestion at all. Most people that I know would hate their earlier work if they hadn't gotten into the BWP or Ghost Reveries first.

JamJar 12-25-2005 06:04 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]I finally got the Lamenations DVD, woofricken'hoo![/QUOTE]

I didn't :upset:

I'm gonna try and order it online in the next few days. I didn't get any Opeth stuff :( but I got a wireless router :D

Shred Danson 12-25-2005 06:10 PM

[QUOTE=JamJar]I didn't :upset:

I'm gonna try and order it online in the next few days. I didn't get any Opeth stuff :( but I got a wireless router :D[/QUOTE]

heh so did I :)

Whale and Wasp 12-25-2005 07:12 PM

i first got into opeth by hearing "closure", then i got ghost reveries which is alright, and now i have deliverance. deliverance is my favorite opeth album :D would damnation be worth getting?

vashts80 12-25-2005 07:41 PM

Let's put it this way: Damnation is all soft, mellow stuff. It's like all the acoustic/clean electric parts on GR put together., but 100x better

Damnation is how I got into Opeth. I listened to it for 3 months or so before I went on a spree of BWP-Deliverance-Damnation in one day

The Cynic 12-25-2005 08:10 PM

I got into then with D&D as well. Then I got Blackwater Park and from then on in the next week I got all thier albums and The DVD. Then when Ghost Reveries came out I got that as well.

Shadius 12-25-2005 08:27 PM

The first Opeth I heard was a random acoustic track, and I loved the style. It was one of their older songs, probably Silhouette or Requiem. Everyone seemed to be saying their best work was Blackwater Park, so I got that, and I was like... Woah, heavy. The death growls and eerie atmosphere sorta put me off for a while. At this point the only Death Metal i'd heard was In Flames.

Then an online friend who loves Opeth told me they released an all mellow album; Damnation, so I got that and it totally grew on me, so much that I needed more. I listened to Blackwater Park again, and actually started to like it; songs like Bleak and the Drapery Falls worked for me this time around, and eventually I liked at least parts from all the songs on there. Then I just went nuts and bought more and more albums. I have all their albums and the DVD now, and they're definately one of my favourite bands.

The last album I got, oddly, was Deliverance. It's not as bloody heavy as the critics and reviewers like to make out in loads of places; saying it's one of their heaviest albums and such, i've even heard misinformed people say it's all death vocals and stuff like that.

Killtacular 12-25-2005 10:10 PM

Upon watching the documentary in Lamentations, I began thinking about what it would be like if they did the polar opposite of Damnation (Deliverance doesn't count).

A whole album of the purest, most brutal death metal they could conjure up, with no soft, acoustic interludes and no clean vocals at all.

It was at that moment that I soiled myself.

vashts80 12-25-2005 10:19 PM

Orchid? I could have sworn that all of Orchid is growls, no clean vocals, but I can't really remember

Edit: Heh, I got banned from the ultimatemetal forums for saying I'd upload the new Katatonia somewhere and give one person the link. Go figure.

Darkness 12-25-2005 10:20 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]Upon watching the d0cumentary in Lamentations, I began thinking about what it would be like if they did the polar opposite of Damnation (Deliverance doesn't count).

A whole album of the purest, most brutal death metal they could conjure up, with no soft, acoustic interludes and no clean vocals at all.

It was at that moment that I soiled myself.[/QUOTE]
I'd much rather have "Deliverance" then that.

Killtacular 12-25-2005 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]I'd much rather have "Deliverance" then that.[/QUOTE]
It's not like if they made it that it would cancel Deliverance out so that it doesn't exsist. I'm saying go from Ghost Reveries to brutal, unadulterated death metal.

srgweawefawefa;goiahreg
*creams pants*

Darkness 12-25-2005 10:25 PM

That would suck. If I want that I'll just listen to Nile. I'd rather they make another mind blowingly shocking album along the lines of Still Life and BWP.


..Not saying remake those albums, just an ablum as incredible as those.

Killtacular 12-25-2005 10:34 PM

There's a better chance of a brutal death album than them getting even [i]close[/i] to Still Life.

Also, Nile doesn't have the patented Åkerfeldt growl.

Darkness 12-25-2005 10:36 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]There's a better chance of a brutal death album than them getting even [i]close[/i] to Still Life.

Also, Nile doesn't have the patented Åkerfeldt growl.[/QUOTE]
I seriously think a brutal death metal album would suck from Opeth. You'd just have songs like Wreath over and over.

vashts80 12-25-2005 10:48 PM

Now I realize why I got banned for UM forums...the guys in Katatonia don't want any reviews from people who downloaded the promo, nor do they want people to help spread it. Considering I didn't actually spread it, and I only said "I like songs x, y, and z" I'm gonna try and get in contact with an admin and see if I can get unbanned.

bucket 12-25-2005 10:52 PM

[QUOTE=vashts80]Orchid? I could have sworn that all of Orchid is growls, no clean vocals, but I can't really remember

Edit: Heh, I got banned from the ultimatemetal forums for saying I'd upload the new Katatonia somewhere and give one person the link. Go figure.[/QUOTE]

There's a few scattered throughout. It has to have fewer clean than the rest, but they are definetly there.

... and hey :D... the new Katatonia? [email]petethecow@hotmail.com[/email] if you have it uploaded! I have a Spock's Beard- Octane link handy if you'd like :D.

vashts80 12-25-2005 10:56 PM

I have Octane, and the promo isn't worth it because it has the uhh...what do you call them things, the dude saying "This is the song x from the new Katatonia album The Great Cold Distance"...I'd just wait for it, that's how good it is

Killtacular 12-25-2005 10:57 PM

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]I seriously think a brutal death metal album would suck from Opeth. You'd just have songs like Wreath over and over.[/QUOTE]
Pfff.
You Kanadians are never happy.

Darkness 12-25-2005 10:59 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]Pfff.
You Kanadians are never happy.[/QUOTE]
I was when I first got D&D, BWP, and Still Life, etc.


Not so much GR...

Killtacular 12-25-2005 11:00 PM

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Not so much GR...[/QUOTE]
Tr00f.

Kaiwaz 12-25-2005 11:19 PM

[QUOTE=Shadius]I don't recommend doing that at all.

I recommend getting an accessable album, and then exploring them from there if you realise you like their sound. If you're looking for mellow with no heavy or death vocals, try Damnation. If you're looking for what Opeth are usually like, I'd recommend Still Life, Blackwater Park, or even their latest album; Ghost Reveries.

Ghost Reveries may be the most accessable album of their usual "mixed heavy/mellow" style.[/QUOTE]


That's your preference. Maybe some people want to hear more older [B]O[/B]peth. It all depends on who you are, either way, I would still recommend, to a new listener, listening to all of [B]O[/B]peths albums in the order of their release. Being so, would make it easy on the new listener to see how they started, what their style was, and what it became in later albums. :p

Killtacular 12-25-2005 11:24 PM

Orchid is too abrasive to start an ( )peth n00b out on.

Darkness 12-25-2005 11:24 PM

But if someone was about to hear them for the first time, I definatly would not say get Orchid. Or even Morningrise.

Det_Nosnip 12-26-2005 01:27 AM

[QUOTE=Scruples]It's not like if they made it that it would cancel Deliverance out so that it doesn't exsist. I'm saying go from Ghost Reveries to brutal, unadulterated death metal.

srgweawefawefa;goiahreg
*creams pants*[/QUOTE]

I think it'd be nice, or at least a heavier album more in the vein of Deliverance. I seem to be one of 5 people who really enjoyed Ghost Reveries, but my only complaint about the album was that it wasn't as heavy as their previous releases. More progressive...probably THE most progressive album Opeth have done, excluding Damnation, but I'd like to hear something a bit heavier next time.

Drunken Viking 12-26-2005 01:48 AM

I'm a new listener to Opeth, I have two of their albums, Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park, can somebody recomend me some good tracks off of those albums, I really wanna get into these guys, I've heard so much good stuff about them.

EDIT: Just saw the above posts, sorry, but could someone still recomend me some good tracks from either of these albums.

Blut und Ehre 12-26-2005 02:07 AM

[QUOTE=The Liberty Bell]I'm a new listener to Opeth, I have two of their albums, Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park, can somebody recomend me some good tracks off of those albums, I really wanna get into these guys, I've heard so much good stuff about them.[/QUOTE]

I recommend you listen to them both in their entirety, and decide for yourself which songs are good. One shouldn't rely on other's opinions. Just make on for yourself. :)

PeEpHoLe_10 12-26-2005 03:23 AM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]I think it'd be nice, or at least a heavier album more in the vein of Deliverance. I seem to be one of 5 people who really enjoyed Ghost Reveries.[/QUOTE]


I love Ghost Reveries :p

shamed-angel 12-26-2005 03:56 AM

[QUOTE=The Liberty Bell]I'm a new listener to Opeth, I have two of their albums, Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park, can somebody recomend me some good tracks off of those albums, I really wanna get into these guys, I've heard so much good stuff about them.

EDIT: Just saw the above posts, sorry, but could someone still recomend me some good tracks from either of these albums.[/QUOTE]
[U][B]Blackwater Park:[/B][/U]
The Leper Affinity
Harvest
Dirge for November
Patterns In The Ivy
Blackwater Park

[U][B]Ghost Reveries[/B][/U]
Ghost Of Perdition
Baying Of The Hounds
Atonement
Reverie/Harlequin Forest
The Grand Conjuration
Isolation Years

But yeh, I agree that you should just listen to the albums in their entirety. Seriously, Blackwater Park is one the best albums I've ever heard. Beautiful and Brutal. Amazing. Oh yeh, and if you like those, buy Deliverance. I'd say that's the most similar to any of those records.
[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]I love Ghost Reveries :p[/QUOTE]
How could you not? Easily the best album of 2005.

Lev 12-26-2005 04:40 AM

Hi guys, I wanna go to the Melbourne Opeth concert in April, are their concerts 18+? I'm only 16... :( My friend says because their are two gigs for Melbourne one should be 18+ and one all ages. Anyone know about this??

(this'll be my first concert experience ever :D)

Shadius 12-26-2005 06:04 AM

I love GR, too. It's one of my favourite albums Opeth have done, for sure. Sure, it's not quite as heavy as some of their other releases, but it definately has it's moments. It's heavy enough for me, at any rate.

It would be nice to hear some more classical sounding stuff from Opeth, aslong the lines of the Orchid and Morningrise albums, though I don't think they'll ever particulary go back in that direction.

Moses 12-26-2005 10:09 AM

I don't like GR that much, although it has an extremely cool intro, but I haven't given it that many listens and I've been pre-occupied with PoS, Into Eternity, PT, Symphony X and whole crapload of other bands. I'll put GR in my cd player today.

[QUOTE=The Liberty Bell]I'm a new listener to Opeth, I have two of their albums, Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park, can somebody recomend me some good tracks off of those albums, I really wanna get into these guys, I've heard so much good stuff about them.[/QUOTE]
Blackwater Park has the two songs that got me into them, The Drapery Falls and Blackwater Park. Ghost Reveries only has one song that I really like so far and that's Ghost of Perdition.

I also agree with Shadius about the classical sounding stuff because no other band really does it as well as Opeth and now they have awesome production so it'll be even better.

Kaiwaz 12-26-2005 10:12 AM

[QUOTE=Shadius]I love GR, too. It's one of my favourite albums Opeth have done, for sure. Sure, it's not quite as heavy as some of their other releases, but it definately has it's moments. It's heavy enough for me, at any rate.

It would be nice to hear some more classical sounding stuff from Opeth, aslong the lines of the Orchid and Morningrise albums, though I don't think they'll ever particulary go back in that direction.[/QUOTE]


Sadly, I don't think so either. It's all good though, it just maked those albums so much more precious.

denboy 12-26-2005 10:35 AM

I just listened to damnation, and I'm yet again, amazed by the fact that they've managed to make an album so unique.. I really haven't heard anything like it before

Kaiwaz 12-26-2005 10:40 AM

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]I just listened to damnation, and I'm yet again, amazed by the fact that they've managed to make an album so unique.. I really haven't heard anything like it before[/QUOTE]


I don't think there is anything quite like D@mnation. It's a great album.

gmoneyguy 12-26-2005 11:00 AM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I don't think there is anything quite like D@mnation. It's a great album.[/QUOTE]
I especially like in my time of need


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