[QUOTE=pate;16231697]The only Nightwish I like is the new one.[/QUOTE]

liking some Nightwish makes you cool in this user's eyes.

Everyone else who doesn't is pooey, lol.

I am jk. Riva and Cocaine introduced me to Lost Horizon. That enough makes them alright in my book.

My friend actually started talking to me about them yesterday on our way home (the same one who likes Lordi).

She was like, "Mike, do you know who Nightwish is? They seem like somebody you'd like."

She also got into them through Ghost Love Score, 130% bitchin' in my book.

[quote]She was like, "Mike, do you know who Nightwish is? They seem like somebody you'd like."[/quote]

:lol: She didn't know you liked Nightwish before yesterday?

I was shocked too...

In my quite arrogant opinion, Nightwish doesn't do anything for me that I can't get from Therion, except Therion have other elements also. So Nightwish is the loser. But in a lot of cases it depends on which one you heard first, I suppose.

Both Therion and Nightwish tend to make me break out into laughter, but for different reasons. Nightwish because they're ridiculous and Tarja's voice was irritating, and Therion because it was just so unbelievably overthetop.

Hehe, yeah, they do get more and more over the top as time goes on. Which album was it, Tyler? [I]Gothic Kabalah[/I]?

[QUOTE=Riva;16233899]In my quite arrogant opinion, Nightwish doesn't do anything for me that I can't get from Therion, except Therion have other elements also. So Nightwish is the loser. But in a lot of cases it depends on which one you heard first, I suppose.[/QUOTE]

I am curious what other elements they have that Nightwish doesn't?

[QUOTE=Riva;16233952]Hehe, yeah, they do get more and more over the top as time goes on. Which album was it, Tyler? [I]Gothic Kabalah[/I]?[/QUOTE]

Nah it was an album that came with another, like a double album or something.

[QUOTE=PoetandthePendulum;16233955]I am curious what other elements they have that Nightwish doesn't?[/QUOTE]

I think they use choral male vocals much better, plus they also have outstanding classical arrangements. And the music isn't dominated by one woman's gradually grating voice. The subject matter of Therion's songs is also more interesting to me, but that's hardly an objective point.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16233965]Nah it was an album that came with another, like a double album or something.[/QUOTE]

[I]Lemuria[/I] and [I]Sirius B[/I], then. The first half of [I]Sirius B[/I] gets rather cheesy, but I would think it's more like Rhapsody or Manowar cheesy than anything. I know what you mean if [I]Lemuria[/I] is the specific album you're thinking of, though I still love it.

[QUOTE=Riva;16233966]I think they use choral male vocals much better, plus they also have outstanding classical arrangements. And the music isn't dominated by one woman's gradually grating voice. The subject matter of Therion's songs is also more interesting to me, but that's hardly an objective point.[/QUOTE]

guess we will just have to agree to disagree lol. I love Marco's voice so much. It brings so much anger, passion, while being operatic as well. Obviously no song ever will have the classical arrangement that Poet and the Pendulum has in my eyes. Greatest song ever.

Therion are just amazing. Gothic Kabbalah is my favorite by quite a wide margin, but I love everything they've released.

[QUOTE=Riva;16233968]
[I]Lemuria[/I] and [I]Sirius B[/I], then. The first half of [I]Sirius B[/I] gets rather cheesy, but I would think it's more like Rhapsody or Manowar cheesy than anything. I know what you mean if [I]Lemuria[/I] is the specific album you're thinking of, though I still love it.[/QUOTE]

[I]Lemuria[/I] is a masterwork

i have to check them out again, i got one of there albums used on a whim because i heard of them but i ended up...i don't eve remember what i did with it, but i didn't like it at the time.

Sirius B/Lemuria were the first Therion albums (album? I dunno...stupid double thingy) I got. The songwriting was pretty good, if completely overly bombastic at times, but I think that album would be a lot better with a more exciting production. All the stuff is really dull...it could use some brightness.

Gothic Kabbalah, on the other hand, is a masterpiece.

I like Lemuria way more than GK. Those are the only ones I've spent a lot of time with. I need to change that.

I got [I]Sirius B[/I] a couple of years before [I]Lemuria[/I]; it was my first Therion album. I think the production is great. Any more production and it could sound like [I]Heavenseeker[/I].

In terms of loudness, everything is balanced well, but it all sounds so DULL. The guitars in particular need a lot more pop, more treble.

Songwriting is great though. Shame Mats left...he's a killer vocalist. Plus, he's the only singer I've seen come out to do a show wrapped entirely in naked pin-up posters.

Yeah, [I]Gothic Kabbalah[/I] is my favourite Therion album, but they all pretty much rule.

I just got my Kamelot/Edguy tickets :naughty:

Anyone heard of this compilation album containing bonus tracks from US and Japanese releases and 2 rare tracks listed on metal-archives: Myths & Legends of Kamelot?

[QUOTE=MetalOz;16263433]I just got my Kamelot/Edguy tickets :naughty:

Anyone heard of this compilation album containing bonus tracks from US and Japanese releases and 2 rare tracks listed on metal-archives: Myths & Legends of Kamelot?[/QUOTE]

Haha, I just bought mine yesterday. October 20th :thumb:

They slayed back in November, but with Edguy opening rather Leaves Eyes as with last time it should be much better.

seriously, I never get any good show :(. The one I do get (Nightwish aka fav. band ever), my mom won't let me go too :(

Aren't you in the Chicago area? We're getting Edguy/Kamelot too.

lol that sucks man. my mom doesnt care what shows i go too because half the time she doesnt know the bands.

who else is getting annoyed be a lot of these melodic power metal bands that are coming out and making very boring bland metal? for example Angel Blake

I downloaded their album because I thought the description was cool. I forgot what it was, but I was like, "This sounds like I'd enjoy it."

I didn't.

I can't go to certain shows because other people can't/it's at a bad time. Usually one of the two.

[QUOTE=PoetandthePendulum;16264898]seriously, I never get any good show :(. The one I do get (Nightwish aka fav. band ever), my mom won't let me go too :([/QUOTE]

lol what

[QUOTE=pate;16265111]Aren't you in the Chicago area? We're getting Edguy/Kamelot too.[/QUOTE]

I hate you. Seriously. :angry::smash:

Power Metal bands seem to just skip over Canada :(

[QUOTE=pate;16265111]Aren't you in the Chicago area? We're getting Edguy/Kamelot too.[/QUOTE]

St. Louis area. The only venue that is even by me is in stupid East St. Louis. Basically, it's really really really bad. This venue is by like 3 strip clubs, lol. That is one of the main reasons I can't go to the Nightwish show. Sucks too because they've had bands like Flogging Molly and Protest the Hero for like 15 bucks.

has anyone checked out the new Ayreon vs Avantasia EP yet? im going to get it tonight, just wondering if its any good

I couldn't be bothered. It's just a cover and some other tracks, so I'm not too interested.

o ok, i havent seen the track list so i wasnt sure really what was on it. ill still look into it since i love both bands

[QUOTE=PoetandthePendulum;16265227]St. Louis area. The only venue that is even by me is in stupid East St. Louis. Basically, it's really really really bad. This venue is by like 3 strip clubs, lol. That is one of the main reasons I can't go to the Nightwish show. Sucks too because they've had bands like Flogging Molly and Protest the Hero for like 15 bucks.[/QUOTE]

lol Pop's. Never been there, and have no desire to.



I ordered the first three Dungeon albums. Two of them are limited edition, one of which contains a live DVD. How ozzy metuhl am I?

And I pay no shipping.

[QUOTE=jrowa001;16265390]has anyone checked out the new Ayreon vs Avantasia EP yet? im going to get it tonight, just wondering if its any good[/QUOTE]

Sucks. Don't bother.

[QUOTE=pate;16265464]lol Pop's. Never been there, and have no desire to.
[/QUOTE]

lol yep. They have some good bands that come through, but the location sucks epically.

East St. Louis is the most ghetto area of the world.

Kamelot never comes down where I am either. If they visit virginia its way up like right next to DC so i'd have to drive like 6-7 hours to see them. next time they come i'm debating it though because roy khan owns me hard enough for me to use like 300$ on gas money to get there. :P

[QUOTE=bringonthebreakdown;16268087]Kamelot never comes down where I am either. If they visit virginia its way up like right next to DC so i'd have to drive like 6-7 hours to see them. next time they come i'm debating it though because roy khan owns me hard enough for me to use like 300$ on gas money to get there. :P[/QUOTE]

That's the show I'll be at, right outside of DC on October 16th

Nocturnal Rites finally clicked. I have [I]Grand Illusion[/I] and [I]Shadowland[/I]. Where should I go next?

anybody like Battleroar? their new album To Death and Beyond is pretty cool.

They're on my wishlist.