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i am the robots 11-02-2007 01:38 AM

Not familiar, you're like, stumping me and s[size=2]h[/size]it tonight.
[QUOTE=reznor;15487428]robots: yeah you said that in the previous discussion. whenever i think of melodic death i think of in flames, dark tranquillity, dissection, opeth (arguable) etc. i remember someone
(maybe you) said it was american melodic death, which is a valid point but for some reason it still doesnt sway me. what are some other bands that would be similar? i cant think of any[/QUOTE]
I don't really differentiate melodic death by location anymore.

In Flames and Dark Tranquillity are a lot more unique sounding because they were two of the first bands in the genre.

Some bands I'd compare to The Black Dahlia Murder would be Light This City, At The Gates, Bring Me The Horizon, Through The Eyes Of The Dead, Naera, Darkest Hour, The Absence, As Blood Runs Black, and Viatrophy.

rasputin 11-02-2007 01:46 AM

i think it might have been the bring me the horizon thread, but im not sure. but im still not convinced about them being melodeath, for reasons as above.

Tyler 11-02-2007 01:49 AM

But if BDM isn't melodeath, how are they metalcore?

i am the robots 11-02-2007 01:49 AM

Blah, here, compare and contrast.

Bring Me The Horizon:
[url]http://www.myspace.com/bmth[/url]

The song RE: They Have No Reflections is off of their EP, when they did play metalcore though.

Some melodic death bands:
[url]http://www.myspace.com/lightthiscity[/url]
[url]http://www.myspace.com/blackdahliamurder[/url]
[url]http://www.myspace.com/tteotd[/url]

Some metalcore bands:
[url]http://www.myspace.com/skycamefalling1021[/url]
[url]http://www.myspace.com/converge[/url]
[url]http://www.myspace.com/listentoaftershock[/url]

okay 11-02-2007 01:49 AM

all this sub genre stuff is confusing

Tyler 11-02-2007 01:51 AM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15487474]Blah, here, compare and contrast.

Bring Me The Horizon:
[url]http://www.myspace.com/bringmethehorizon[/url]
[/QUOTE]

you might want to check this url again

edit: you did

they're melodeath but holy bad vocals.

i am the robots 11-02-2007 01:52 AM

Yeah, it's annoying when kids use band names as their URL's.

rasputin 11-02-2007 01:54 AM

im not saying they are, but i liken them more to metalcorish bands rather than the melodic death bands i mentioned before. so what im asking is why the melodeath label, and what are some other similar bands to tbdm

i am the robots 11-02-2007 01:56 AM

Which is why I posted this:
[quote]Some bands I'd compare to The Black Dahlia Murder would be Light This City, At The Gates, Bring Me The Horizon, Through The Eyes Of The Dead, Naera, Darkest Hour, The Absence, As Blood Runs Black, and Viatrophy.[/quote]
There's actually tons more, so many kids want to be The Black Dahlia Murder these days.

Also, look at early death metal bands like Entombed, then look at modern death metal bands like Decapitated... the sound is derived from the root, but the genre's evolved.

Just like bands like Converge and 7 Angels 7 Plagues pioneered metalcore, but now modern metalcore sounds like As I Lay Dying and God Forbid.

rasputin 11-02-2007 01:59 AM

ok I can see why I was confused I haven't listened to any of those bands, besides At the Gates. But thanks for bringing up At the Gates, because that clarified it for me. TBDM do sound similar to at the gates (slaughter of the soul only).

i am the robots 11-02-2007 02:03 AM

Slaughter Of The Soul is like the definition of generic melodic death metal.

rasputin 11-02-2007 02:12 AM

oh I wouldn't say so, it depends on what sort of melodic death metal you are talking about. I don't think Slaughter of the Soul is anything like albums like Whoracle, The Gallery, Morningrise by In Flames, DT and Opeth. I generally consider that sort of music melodic death metal, rather than At the Gates. But then At the Gates stems from that so it's just a whole bunch different styles.
And I wouldn't say it was generic because At the Gates made it, they revolutionised it, and it's only become generic now because every band rips off their style.

i am the robots 11-02-2007 02:14 AM

Well I wouldn't really consider Opeth melodic death though.

Moreso a mix of prog rock and metal with elements of death metal, doom metal, folk, black metal, and like 48 other styles of music.

And I agree, Slaughter Of The Soul wasn't very generic for its time, but the formula's been ripped-off for so many years now. I don't care if music's generic, tbh, just so long as I can still enjoy it.

rasputin 11-02-2007 02:15 AM

that's true, but you can really draw similarities between their first two albums and other melodic death metal bands (that's why I always include them in melodic death, because that's where they began).

i am the robots 11-02-2007 02:16 AM

Blah, we should bump the melodic death thread, kind of derailing the metalcore discussion.

rasputin 11-02-2007 02:18 AM

yeah

okay 11-02-2007 02:20 AM

yeah >:-|

rasputin 11-02-2007 02:22 AM

is there even a melo-death thread?

i am the robots 11-02-2007 02:22 AM

So I'm working on a review for [I]A Penny For Your Confessions[/I].

I'm really thinking it deserves 5... but it might just be Skycamefalling fanboyism.
[QUOTE=reznor;15487537]is there even a melo-death thread?[/QUOTE]
There is, but the majority of the R&M community isn't really into the genre.

Pete 11-02-2007 02:41 AM

i wanna continue this discussion

how is a band like blarg darlia murder metalcore? wftwtfwtf


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