[QUOTE=Raayl;17518427]no you're incorrect

the basic 101 formula for muscle gain is getting enough protein. its very important that you do

1 gram for every pound of lean body mass. so if you're like me and 225 lbs with 20% bodyfat at 6'1'', then you probably want around 160/180 grams of protein.

protein is absolutely critical.

Also, the only part of eggs that are high in cholesterol is the yolks. Hence, I only eat egg whites. Did you not actually read my diet plan or something lol[/QUOTE]

coughspluttercarbohydratesareimportantforongoingenergyandsustinenceandcanbejustasifnotmoreimportantthatproteincough.

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;17518447]coughspluttercarbohydratesareimportantforongoingenergyandsustinenceandcanbejustasifnotmoreimportantthatproteincough.[/QUOTE]

yeah dude thats why i eat 1 carb per every 1 protein in my diet

Argh... my back, I walked into this conversation and slipped on testosterone and fell and hurt myself. Who do I sue?

My diet isn't strict, I just tend to make sure I get fruits and vegies every day in addition to whatever else I'm eating.

[QUOTE=Raayl;17518485]yeah dude thats why i eat 1 carb per every 1 protein in my diet[/QUOTE]

Yeah I know, was just saying.

[QUOTE=gaslight;17518519]Argh... my back, I walked into this conversation and slipped on testosterone and fell and hurt myself. Who do I sue?

My diet isn't strict, I just tend to make sure I get fruits and vegies every day in addition to whatever else I'm eating.[/QUOTE]

eh

thats not really what you should be aiming for, that's a pretty poor way to balance nutrition

you want to balance your diet based on heavy foods like protein and carb intake

I know I don't eat as healthy as I should. I eat nothing but carbs virtually. And empty calories. In a few years I'll start caring more.. maybe. I still exercise at least so I don't feel bad about it :p

Anyway, I have an epic day planned tomorrow.

exercising really won't do MUCH without a good diet

a good diet is the main reason people lack results

So I'm going to see the Pixies in Chicago in November. Who else? No one? We'll you're all gay.

I'm not really aiming for any kind of diet in particular so I don't fuss too much over it.

Can't say I'll be making it to the Chicago show, my bad.

[QUOTE=Mr. Pickle;17518556]So I'm going to see the Pixies in Chicago in November. Who else? No one? We'll you're all gay.[/QUOTE]

Is it for the Doolittle tour? Unfortunately they're not coming to Toronto. :upset:

[QUOTE=Mr. Pickle;17518556]So I'm going to see the Pixies in Chicago in November. Who else? No one? We'll you're all gay.[/QUOTE]

dude i might go with you

/is serious

[quote=Spaceman Spiff;17518572]Is it for the Doolittle tour? Unfortunately they're not coming to Toronto. :upset:[/quote]

Yeah, it's going to be a 14 hour drive, round-trip, but will totally be worth it, (I assume).

[quote=Raayl;17518579]dude i might go with you

/is serious[/quote]

Well, okay, but I WILL NOT be removing any articles of clothing if we meet.

that's ok

will you at least arm wrestle me

I don't arm wrestle.



I Indian leg wrestle.

do you wanna fight me

violence is not the answer

It is if you're bisexual and/or gay.

[QUOTE=Raayl;17518429]It's clear you don't know much about nutrition if you think it's radical to eat 1 gram of protein per 1 lb of lean body mass. Nothing shocking, dangerous, or revolutionary about that. It's the BASIC diet of anyone who lifts and trains seriously.

I'd never recommend eating over 200 grams of protein a day unless you're a SERIOUS bodybuilder, just because it's a waste of money (lol) and your body can't process that much unless you SERIOUSLY train hard.[/QUOTE]
i'm not into bodybuilding so i never heard that rule. i gain muscle mass easily from a normal diet, so i've never needed to eat sh*tloads of protein. i wasn't trying to show you up or anything, i was just giving you a heads up to be careful and make sure you are getting enough fiber, because that's commonly overlooked by weightlifters who think the key to getting huge is eating massively disproportionate amounts of protein

[QUOTE=Jaded;17518649]i'm not into bodybuilding so i never heard that rule. i gain muscle mass easily from a normal diet, so i've never needed to eat sh*tloads of protein. i wasn't trying to show you up or anything, i was just giving you a heads up to be careful and make sure you are getting enough fiber, because that's commonly overlooked by weightlifters who think the key to getting huge is eating massively disproportionate amounts of protein[/QUOTE]

eating 1 gram per lean body mass isnt massively disproportionate it is completely average

[QUOTE=Pluperfect_Arson;17517415]Nice, dude.

I think once I have more income coming in, I am going to build up a new bike. I was thinking about building up a Cinelli Vigorelli frame, but I don't know.[/QUOTE]


Cinelli makes damn light stuff, I'm kind of disappointed that the handlebars I got aren't drops, but my friend wants them for his bike anyway, so they'll go to good use.


I really hate the different size and thread standards for Italian stuff though.
It's still not as bad as Swiss "standards." They basically just change the thread pitch on the bottom bracket by a tiny amount, and suddenly you can only have swiss parts.

[QUOTE=Jaded;17518119]50 pounds is most definitely not sh*t. it's not impossible, obviously, but for someone who is 5'7 and probably weighs somewhere in the 160 range, it's not half bad. you know the difference between a barbell and a dumbbell right? dumbbells are the one's you hold in each hand, guy. biceps are a stupid muscle to get that big anyway, they really don't help that much and everybody will think you're gay[/QUOTE]

Still lol'ing. You sound so angry.

I am 5'8" and ~130lbs, can do 50lbs curls without a problem.

LET'S TAKE THIS OUTSIDE, BRO

I do not actively workout anymore outside of riding bicycles because I want huge thighs, so I can look like Chris Hoy, on the right:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/InfamousScreams/C_110HOY.jpg[/IMG]

I need to go back to my squatz.

[QUOTE=Raayl;17517587]are you unaware of the massive cases pending against it in several countries?

EDIT: idk the progress of them though[/QUOTE]

It's really just Sweden, and they were convicted. But I think the three people who were accused have left the country, and are doing appeals anyway.

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-trial-the-verdict-090417/

That blog has been following it all pretty closely.

[QUOTE=Pluperfect_Arson;17518724]Still lol'ing. You sound so angry.

I am 5'8" and ~130lbs, can do 50lbs curls without a problem.

LET'S TAKE THIS OUTSIDE, BRO

I do not actively workout anymore outside of riding bicycles because I want huge thighs, so I can look like Chris Hoy, on the right:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/InfamousScreams/C_110HOY.jpg[/IMG]

I need to go back to my squatz.[/QUOTE]

If he walks at the right speed, the vibrations produced when his thighs rub together approaches a low E.

[QUOTE=Efrim;17518723]Cinelli makes damn light stuff, I'm kind of disappointed that the handlebars I got aren't drops, but my friend wants them for his bike anyway, so they'll go to good use.


I really hate the different size and thread standards for Italian stuff though.
It's still not as bad as Swiss "standards." They basically just change the thread pitch on the bottom bracket by a tiny amount, and suddenly you can only have swiss parts.[/QUOTE]

Meh, drops are easy to come by. What handlebars came with it? Honestly, I cannot imagine riding on anything other than drops. I tried bullhorns, ****ing hated them. I have not tried risers, and I might soon, but they seem so inconvenient for riding purposes. You have one riding position, that is it.

North road or priest bars might be fun if I build up a townie SS to cruise around on when I felt like taking it easy.

Also, looking out for different threading sucks. If you do not realize what you are threading into, put something which does not fit, you can say hello to your stripped threads.

EDIT: Forgot my picture of what I used to dream of buying:
[img]http://www.cervelo.com/models/thumbnail/P3-TRACK_001.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Efrim;17518727]If he walks at the right speed, the vibrations produced when his thighs rub together approaches a low E.[/QUOTE]

I think it might be more akin to a low F#.

I mean look at those thighs!

[QUOTE=Pluperfect_Arson;17518724]Still lol'ing. You sound so angry.

I am 5'8" and ~130lbs, can do 50lbs curls without a problem.

LET'S TAKE THIS OUTSIDE, BRO

I do not actively workout anymore outside of riding bicycles because I want huge thighs, so I can look like Chris Hoy, on the right:

I need to go back to my squatz.[/QUOTE]

actually, a 50 lbs dumbbell curl is absolutely legit. 50 lbs dumbbell/100 lbs barbell is an excellent lift

that is

if you advocate GREAT form. I bet I can curl 200 lbs if I use my back, start off poorly, and swing the weight up. but to control and isolate the lift to just the bicep, a 50 lbs dumbbell curl is excellent.

after lifting for a year and being very strong, big, and fit - my max bicep curl is 115. I don't really care about numbers that much, though - I care about form, and making reps count so I can isolate and FEEL the correct muscles being used. That is the key to lifting.

but a 115 lbs barbell curl isn't anything to scoff at. It's pretty serious business.

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsrjmY-nfco[/URL]

this is a great video regarding form for the bicep curl. most people SERIOUSLY suck at curling, so this is a great video.

[QUOTE=Pluperfect_Arson;17518730]Meh, drops are easy to come by. What handlebars came with it? Honestly, I cannot imagine riding on anything other than drops. I tried bullhorns, ****ing hated them. I have not tried risers, and I might soon, but they seem so inconvenient for riding purposes. You have one riding position, that is it.

North road or priest bars might be fun if I build up a townie SS to cruise around on when I felt like taking it easy.

Also, looking out for different threading sucks. If you do not realize what you are threading into, put something which does not fit, you can say hello to your stripped threads.

EDIT: Forgot my picture of what I used to dream of buying:
[img]http://www.cervelo.com/models/thumbnail/P3-TRACK_001.png[/img][/QUOTE]

They are just fairly short straight bars. Not the little tiny ones, but still pretty short.

Cervelo makes some damn fine stuff. They're based in Canada apparently.

Have you ever held zipp wheels in your own hands? My boss has a set, they weight less than pretty much every component on my bike.

[QUOTE=Raayl;17518748]actually, a 50 lbs dumbbell curl is absolutely legit. 50 lbs dumbbell/100 lbs barbell is an excellent lift

that is

if you advocate GREAT form. I bet I can curl 200 lbs if I use my back, start off poorly, and swing the weight up. but to control and isolate the lift to just the bicep, a 50 lbs dumbbell curl is excellent.[/QUOTE]

I am not saying it is not. Most people who just stepped into a gym are not necessarily going to be popping off 50lbs curls.

[QUOTE=Jaded]but for someone who is 5'7 and probably weighs somewhere in the 160 range, it's not half bad.[/QUOTE]

And it was mostly because of that I was laughing. 5'7" and 160lbs does not tell me anything about a person, other than he could be muscular or overweight, considering he is an inch shorter and 30lbs more than me.

[QUOTE=Efrim;17518756]They are just fairly short straight bars. Not the little tiny ones, but still pretty short.

Cervelo makes some damn fine stuff. They're based in Canada apparently.

Have you ever held zipp wheels in your own hands? My boss has a set, they weight less than pretty much every component on my bike.[/QUOTE]

I do not understand how people ride around with the tiny, chopped bars. This girl I am crushin' on has those. You cannot sprint, it is harder to balance when you stand up, and the leverage is not great for climbing hills.

Argon 18, Marinoni, and Cervelo are all based in Canada. :)

And, no, I have never held Zipp wheels. I have seen people with them, but I do not actually know anyone who owns a set. LBSs here do not stock them, either. :upset: