gonna dress up as a mormon missionary for halloween

[QUOTE=Haz;18641566]totally dressing up like these dudes for halloween

me and another dude are gonna shuffle[/QUOTE]

make sure to post pics

thinking about being alex delarge for halloween, i know it's old but it's still a classic

forgot about halloween

probably wont do anything :(

[QUOTE=illmitch;18641568]gonna dress up as a mormon missionary for halloween[/QUOTE]

Damn I was going to be a Jehovah's witness actually haha

what if you actually ran into a mormon

a "mormon" bro of mine deflowered a jehovah's witness girl and her parents pulled her out of school because of it.

some girl on my facebook posted a status that was like

"so im 19 and i should have a later curfew than 11p blahblahblah parents are mad at me even though i was with the love of my life who just had surgery blahblahblah im so mature and they dont get it blahblahblah"

so i comment "its not very 19 year old to complain about your parents on facebook even though i know what that stuff is like"

she deletes me and messages me this:

[quote]19 year olds who post statuses about a god as real as the Easter bunny are immature…. But I understand it’s easier to act as a blind sheep and follow what humans have written in a book and claimed holy than to question beliefs you assume to be true. You are following the words of people who killed other people over minor differences irreligious beliefs. I’ll post stupid shit on my facebook, but leave your judgmental dumb shit to yourself. Whatever reasons that lead you to believe that you are “mature” whether its my fb status, or the grace of some god, please leave it in the confessional or church area. Because I’m complaining about my parents doesn’t mean I’m immature. This paragraph is me being immature. But at least now I’m slightly entertained.[/quote]lol wtf im almost 21

pics of girl

you got told, tamjam

[quote=Route1;18641580]pics of girl[/quote]
[IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/wjxvgx.jpg[/IMG]

she's known for being slightly slutty but she is still usually nice

haha

[QUOTE=Haz;18641566]totally dressing up like these dudes for halloween

me and another dude are gonna shuffle[/QUOTE]

didnt think any1 did haloween shufflings cool

pic of girl
[img]http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/306962_1463734450667_1752687734_715869_6666950_n.jpg[/img]

yeah I got into a facebook argument with a girl the other night Tim

I deleted her she's a bitch

I hate those kind of statuses too tbh. Wouldn't have posted what you did though.


edit: haha [I]she a fat ho[/I]

[quote=Route1;18641590]I hate those kind of statuses too tbh. Wouldn't have posted what you did though.


edit: haha [I]she a fat ho[/I][/quote]
she does it alll the time haha so i thought why not

also she is actually really skinny

she a fat ho

mitch, rate student life at KU please.

doing college stuff and theyre sending me mail. considering.

a ho fo' sho

[QUOTE=Bulldog;18641596]mitch, rate student life at KU please.

doing college stuff and theyre sending me mail. considering.[/QUOTE]

i absolutely love it, ive had the time of my life

irreligious beliefs

[QUOTE=illmitch;18641599]i absolutely love it, ive had the time of my life[/QUOTE]

how would you say the greek community interacts with non-affiliated students?

i want to go greek but i dont want to be apart of anything (overly) cliqueish

[QUOTE=Bulldog;18641603] i dont want to be apart of anything cliqueish[/QUOTE]

dont worry you wont be

KU has a really strong greek community, especially for the big 12, so it's pretty easy to just live your life in the greek system

but really its up to you how much you want to interact with geeds

college game got me stressed

don't think I've talked more than like 3 minutes to any member of the greek community at any one time in 4 years

My friend who was a member of Tau Epsilon Pi at RPI made me watch his brother (or whatever you call new members) while he screwed some chick he was after for like a year so me and him destroyed everyone at pong that night

he kind of smelled bad

they're pretty unlikable people as a whole

mitch and his ilk seem a tiny minority in my experience

wait the pledge fucked a girl the pledge had been after, or your friend had been after

[QUOTE=illmitch;18641617]wait the pledge fucked a girl the pledge had been after, or your friend had been after[/QUOTE]

My friend who was a member of Tau Epsilon Pi was supposed to be with his pledge all night for some ritual or whatever

But he went to go screw the chick. I don't blame him really.


I was there so much I kind of took part in everything.

i used to get in debates with people on facebook all the time when i was smarter

heres one of like 10

[QUOTE]David,

First I want to say that your article is generally very well written. Here is my response:

The chances for life to form, as you have stated, are slim. But we're discussing the existence-of-possibility, therefore we're dealing with an infinite timeline. On an infinite timeline, all things that can happen, must. (Flip a coin ten-thousand times, and you still might not get heads. But flip that same coin an infinite number of times, and you, by definition, must.) Our perception of the universe is/was necessary on the most fundamental, physical level.

No respectable scientist has claimed that a freak lightning strike has ever spontaneously formed and eye, or a brainwave, or even a flagellum. Only, instead, the most fundamental building blocks for these mechanisms.

I would change this sentence: "There is pain in the world, but that is proof for evil, not atheism."
To this sentence: "There is pain in the world, but that is not proof for atheism." (Although "proof for atheism" is a questionable phrase; atheism surely exists. I might try "proof of the veracity of atheism," or something similar.)

If you are interested, I believe that I can disprove the concept evil with a short sequence of logic. Otherwise, thanks for your article and it's honesty. I hope I helped.

September 13, 2009D Michael Mc-----
Nate,

Thank you for your input. I didn't remove the word evil from my piece, because I believe evil to be a very undeniable aspect of our world. I would be interested, though, to hear your thoughts/logic about the contrary.

I would also like to respectfully disagree with your coin-tossing analogy. Though I realize we both know the creation life is much more complex than a fifty-fifty chance, I think your example displays the simplified view we have of life.

Single-celled bacteria are incredibly complex organisms. I tried to convey that in my article, pointing out all of the minute components of their little bodies. Through no chance event of nature could even a mitochondria suddenly develop. It's too ornate, too elaborate. This is ONE organelle. For a functioning, living organism, many, MANY more would be needed, and they must all suddenly appear in the exact same place, within a perfectly formed cell wall.

An organelle cannot just form the way that a coin can just be tossed, hoping for one side. It would be like throwing a bucket of blocks into the air, waiting for them to fall into the shape of a castle, with a buttress, four-by-four wall, and working catapult. You could throw that bucket into the air for eternity and still it would never create such a structure. There is less chance that it would fall into form next to ten dozen other randomly assembled castles (at the same time).

Creating life, additionally, is a theoretical field. Scientists, with all of their technology cannot create a functionally organized bacterium from bare building blocks of atoms. And, even if they could, they couldn't spark it into life. Otherwise, we'd have no difficulty bringing dead bodies back to life.

It's also important to note that we're not dealing with an infinite universe. This world is very finite, and we are looking at only around two billion years for life to form on earth. Granted, there are other planets, but very VERY few habitable ones. Two billion years is, in theory, a long time, but for the complexity necessary for developing an organic body, it couldn't occur in two, ten, or a hundred billion years. That is, without a force that came from outside this universe.

Anyways, I hope you are well. Thank you again for writing. I'm glad that people are engaging in this discussion.


Sincerely,
David Mc------

September 13, 2009Nate --------
Thanks kindly for your coherent reply.

"It would be like throwing a bucket of blocks into the air, waiting for them to fall into the shape of a castle, with a buttress, four-by-four wall, and working catapult. You could throw that bucket into the air for eternity and still it would never create such a structure. There is less chance that it would fall into form next to ten dozen other randomly assembled castles (at the same time)."

That may, in fact, even be an understatement, but...

"It's also important to note that we're not dealing with an infinite universe. This world is very finite, and we are looking at only around two billion years for life to form on earth."

...I said that we are dealing with an infinite "timeline." For this question to be posed, our existence is a prerequisite. All things must happen. Words are, unfortunately, clunky when discussing the more abstract terms of this debate.

As for evil:

For the term "evil" to be meaningful in this discussion--which it is most certainly meant to be--it must serve as some moral judgement, or as a measure by which to make a moral judgement. By definition, it must involve a choice. There are only two things involved in the concept of "choice," as we perceive it:
The first is the mechanism by which factors are "weighed." For the sake of this debate, we will call this mechanism the human soul (mind).

September 13, 2009Nate ---------
The second is the environment, which has borne the aforementioned factors to be weighed.

God, if he exists as creator, created the first instance of both of these. For example, if God didn't create my soul, he must have created the mechanism by which I "chose" my soul. But why would he create a mechanism that would choose a soul that would make inherently "evil" choices? Especially if that mechanism were informed enough to consider the decision a fair one to judge?

I don't mean to be convoluted, but words are clunky for these ideas. My point is that, if God is the supreme creator, he MUST have created the first instance of existence from which all subsequent existence is indebted. He MUST hold entirely the responsibility for its fruits. Everything I make my choices by, was given to me by God. If they weren't, and I were aware enough to make a judgeable decision, why would I make the ones sure to oppose supreme righteousness and to damn my soul eternally? Evil as can be judged is not logically possible.[/QUOTE]


i wish i was motivated to write anything coherent anymore

isn't it really taboo for pledges to have sex with other greeks during their pledgeship

[QUOTE=Route1;18641618]My friend who was a member of Tau Epsilon Pi was supposed to be with his pledge all night for some ritual or whatever

But he went to go screw the chick. I don't blame him really.


I was there so much I kind of took part in everything.[/QUOTE]

ah i thought you meant you were like there in person

that makes more sense

this is the most amazing frat I've been too:

[url]http://www.pikappcastle.org/[/url]

The dudes were really cool and fun. No BS. The house is called castle because the inside literally looks like a god damn castle. The inside looks like the house from clue.

[QUOTE=Deth;18641616]
mitch and his ilk seem a tiny minority in my experience[/QUOTE]

you probably have had more encounters with fraternity brothers than me since you're in college, but every one of them that ive ever met (past or current) is pretty chill.

[QUOTE=illmitch;18641622]ah i thought you meant you were like there in person

that makes more sense[/QUOTE]

well yeah I was at the party and my friend was in the other room. I just looked after the pledge.

ill probably rush SAE because my father was one. if there isnt a chapter at the school i go to (which isnt as likely because SAE is one of the biggest, i believe) sigma chis are pretty cool dudes too

what are you mitch? i cant recall

make sure and look at a few different houses and make sure you find one with guys you like

houses are completely different from campus to campus

im a theta chi