[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]It just seemed so bland and boring musically.[/QUOTE]
:eek:

How you could say such a thing about Morningrise is mind-boggling.

[QUOTE=Scruples]:eek:

How you could say such a thing about Morningrise is mind-boggling.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I just think the dude needs to give it another few listens. Then it'll click. ;)

[QUOTE=Scruples]:eek:

How you could say such a thing about Morningrise is mind-boggling.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, it's been a while. I'm sure if I pulled it out and listened some more I'd like it, just like I did with numerous other Opeth albums.

You'd better get to work on that, pronto!

I'm glad to see that more people than just myself love Deliverance. It was my first Opeth album and I fell in love with the band because of it, so maybe I'm a little partial. But I own every Opeth album now and am absolutely ADDICTED to them!!! I can't even begin to explain how obsessed I have become with this band. But I think it's interesting that you guys like Wreath so much. I bought the album and thought "wow, I wasted $20 on this CD". Then I heard Deliverance and thought "this is song is pretty good"....then the outro hit, I creamed my pants and the rest is history!
Now that so much time has passed since then (I forget how many years; Deliverance was new at the time), I still listen to the album and wonder why it catches so much crap. I mean, it is different from previous Opeth stuff, but the only Opeth album that isn't super-different from all its predecessors is Morningrise (and only Orchid had come before it....and Morningrise was still different!). Wreath, to me, is Opeth's worst song (well, it's close between it and Harlequin Forest). I just don't like it; it loses it's momentum and never convincingly regains it! However, I absolutely LOVE By The Pain I See In Others, and I have heard a lot of ppl say that they really hate that one :P

Anyway, on to what started this incredibly LONG post: I was listening to Deliverance the other day and reading the lyrics along with the album and noticed how friggin' awesome the lyrics to the song "Deliverance" are! Everyone here always says how awesome Mikael is as a lyricist, but we never talk about the lyrics! (I say "we", I just sort of lurk in this thread) What lyrics do you guys like so much? My favorites are "Deliverance" and "Face of Melinda".

Discuss. :thumb:

[QUOTE=Scruples]Still Life is just such a large ammount better than BP, it's sickening.[/QUOTE]

That's crazy. BWP didn't really depart too heavily from Still life's sound. It borrows a lot of the same guitar patterns. Better because you like it more? BWP is probably Opeth's most cohesive work (dirge for november aside). But it's funny you know at the moment Still Life is the album I can't connect with. I'll probably change my mind in a month.

how can anyone not listen to 9.00 onward in 'the leper affinity' and say it's not tighter than a jock strap. (the heavy part before the piano)

So I just bought Still Life... 40 seconds into Godhead's Lament... so far so good. :p

Yeah, Godhead's Lament is one of my favorite songs ever.

Godhead's lament has the most beautiful acoustic part in it. I know this has been said here a lot, but that part is worth another mention. Although the Moor's acoustic part is close behind, if not even as beautiful as GL.

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]I've listened to Deliverance (twice), MAYH, and Blackwater Park all today, the other day I listened to Orchid 3 times in a row and I've been listening to Damnation just about every night recently. Am i obsessed? I think I am. Who else is like this where they can't go a day without listening to Opeth.[/QUOTE]
Me!
I dunno what's happening, I'm starting to feel obsessed too :evil:

[QUOTE=matt4]
Anyway, on to what started this incredibly LONG post: I was listening to Deliverance the other day and reading the lyrics along with the album and noticed how friggin' awesome the lyrics to the song "Deliverance" are! Everyone here always says how awesome Mikael is as a lyricist, but we never talk about the lyrics! (I say "we", I just sort of lurk in this thread) What lyrics do you guys like so much? My favorites are "Deliverance" and "Face of Melinda".

Discuss. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

The lyrics to Deliverence(I'm talking about the song) are incredible. I'll keep my interpretation short.

By drowning someone (and thereby "delivering" them to the other world), the narrator ironically seals his own fate. As a result of this action he is doomed to forever be in the company of the devil, to be forever consumed by his own sin. Just as he once delivered he is now finds himself "delivered"--by his own hand no less.

Hence....

"Deliverence.....Thrown back at me
Deliverence......Laughing at me"

Don't forget about the sexy groove that goes along with those lyrics either;)

I might give my explanation more detail if people are actually interested in discussing lyrics--its a shame what happened to the poetry speaks thread featuring Opeth.

[QUOTE=Scruples]:eek:

How you could say such a thing about Morningrise is mind-boggling.[/QUOTE]

I think im seeing the word bloggin too much...i thought you said it was mind blogging.

[QUOTE=matt4]
Anyway, on to what started this incredibly LONG post: I was listening to Deliverance the other day and reading the lyrics along with the album and noticed how friggin' awesome the lyrics to the song "Deliverance" are! Everyone here always says how awesome Mikael is as a lyricist, but we never talk about the lyrics! (I say "we", I just sort of lurk in this thread) What lyrics do you guys like so much? My favorites are "Deliverance" and "Face of Melinda".

Discuss. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Ahh, I am a lurker also,

anywayz, Heres my story about how i got into opeth...okay...now listen. LISTEN!!!

okay here we go. I was looking for songs to add to my music codes website. so i was just looking through the letters A all the way to Z. Than i just tried opeth out and downloaded harvest.
I didnt really think too much of it, in fact. I found to be quite boring. But after that, i downloaded Black Rose Immortal and was blown away. I wanted to put it on my website, but Lowering the bitrate would still make the file still too big.

So now, ive been hooked to all opeth songs except Godheads Lament. I cant seem to get into that song.
Ive bought 4 CDs by them already, Still Life, Deliverance and Ghost Reveries.
what do you say...thats three?
okay, i get drunk, lose my discman with ghost reveries in it the 2nd day i had it.
than i go buy another Ghost Reveries CD. Did anyone actually read this?:lol:

Also, does anyone listen to the mahavishnu Orchestra? I like the songs alot.

[QUOTE=matt4]

Anyway, on to what started this incredibly LONG post: I was listening to Deliverance the other day and reading the lyrics along with the album and noticed how friggin' awesome the lyrics to the song "Deliverance" are! Everyone here always says how awesome Mikael is as a lyricist, but we never talk about the lyrics! (I say "we", I just sort of lurk in this thread) What lyrics do you guys like so much? My favorites are "Deliverance" and "Face of Melinda".

Discuss. :thumb:[/QUOTE]


The coolest thing about the album Deliverance to me, is a few if the verses from [I]The Master's Apprentices[/I] just vocals played backwards on the end of [I]By The Pain I See In Others.[/I] Because I love that line in the song, and never knew what it was until I played it backwards the other day. It was cool.

[QUOTE=ElectricalStorm]The lyrics to Deliverence(I'm talking about the song) are incredible. I'll keep my interpretation short.

By drowning someone (and thereby "delivering" them to the other world), the narrator ironically seals his own fate. As a result of this action he is doomed to forever be in the company of the devil, to be forever consumed by his own sin. Just as he once delivered he is now finds himself "delivered"--by his own hand no less.

Hence....

"Deliverence.....Thrown back at me
Deliverence......Laughing at me"

Don't forget about the sexy groove that goes along with those lyrics either;)

I might give my explanation more detail if people are actually interested in discussing lyrics--its a shame what happened to the poetry speaks thread featuring Opeth.[/QUOTE]
I like this a lot. That's a really cool interpretation of the lyrics.

And it is a damn sexy groove.

hey guys, radio interview with opeth tonight at 10pm pacific/ 1 am eastern

streamed live here

[url]http://www.indie1031.com/shows/chaos.php[/url]

[QUOTE=lost_profits]That's crazy. BWP didn't really depart too heavily from Still life's sound. It borrows a lot of the same guitar patterns. Better because you like it more? BWP is probably Opeth's most cohesive work (dirge for november aside). [/QUOTE]

YOU'RE crazy. Sure, it borrows from the sound, but it's not anywhere near as good. The Funeral Portrait lacks heavily, and Dirge for November was a little under par as well.

[QUOTE=Scruples]YOU'RE crazy. Sure, it borrows from the sound, but it's not anywhere near as good. The Funeral Portrait lacks heavily, and Dirge for November was a little under par as well.[/QUOTE]

I like the Funeral Portrait. But you're right, Dirge for November drags a lot. The acoustic stuff at the beginning is really nice though.

I really like most of the parts in that song, but I find the structure of it lacks... the way it just kinda stops, goes heavy, stops, goes soft. Theres no build up or anything. But the acoustic parts are really nice/emotional, and the heavy part has that awesome lead. :D Funeral Portrait has a rocking groove to it to.

I looove the Funeral Portrait. The growling on that song just kills me. After the "round the nucleus of joy" part, the scream is so demonic, it gives me goosebumps.

Incidentally, I dislike the intro to Dirge. His voice is really off-key and weak sounding.

[QUOTE=ElectricalStorm]The lyrics to Deliverence(I'm talking about the song) are incredible. I'll keep my interpretation short.

By drowning someone (and thereby "delivering" them to the other world), the narrator ironically seals his own fate. As a result of this action he is doomed to forever be in the company of the devil, to be forever consumed by his own sin. Just as he once delivered he is now finds himself "delivered"--by his own hand no less.

Hence....

"Deliverence.....Thrown back at me
Deliverence......Laughing at me"

Don't forget about the sexy groove that goes along with those lyrics either;)

I might give my explanation more detail if people are actually interested in discussing lyrics--its a shame what happened to the poetry speaks thread featuring Opeth.[/QUOTE]
VERY cool interpretation. I love that part you quoted...it's just so haunting and eerie before blasting into the final climactic part.

[QUOTE=toaster135]I looove the Funeral Portrait. The growling on that song just kills me. After the "round the nucleus of joy" part, the scream is so demonic, it gives me goosebumps.

Incidentally, I dislike the intro to Dirge. His voice is really off-key and weak sounding.[/QUOTE]

thats called singing 'raw'. :thumb: that was straight up with minimal effects probably just a little bit of reverb. And I have to disagree with all of you. Dirge kicks huge amounts of ass. Yeah it is different from the other songs in that it has that huge middle section but its such an epic sounding song. The chord progression is so majestic, it sends chills down my spine. Not to mention the intro and ending clean sections are superb. Definitely an underrated song.

Oh by the way, that part in Funeral Portrait, i agree, its orgasmic :naughty:

I don't think there's a single weak point on BWP. It's my favorite metal album of all time. Quite a prestigious title, but such a masterpiece deserves it. I think their sound is the most cohesive on that abum, and the songs are all expertly crafted. The title track is possibly the greatest metal song ever. The riffs in there are just so [I]huge[/I] and epic. Really an amazing song.

[QUOTE=Kage]The title track is possibly the greatest metal song ever. The riffs in there are just so [I]huge[/I] and epic. Really an amazing song.[/QUOTE]
I agree.

waiting eagerly for that radio show at 10. Where is this station based?

I got into Opeth when a friend of mine picked up Orchid for me Christmas of 95', been a huge fan ever since. I wasn't to big on TGR when it first came out, but after a few listens, it grew on me. I think it's their worst album, but still pretty damn good. Orchid is still my favorite Opeth album with Still Life in second.

well the interview isn't until later apparently. We have to deal with a bunch of emo bands first :upset:. Good station though. Not used to hearing metal on the radio.

I actually interpreted the song to be someone drowning someone to rid themselves of the pain of having them around (maybe an abusive person or whatever), but the guilt of having murdered them is worse for the murderer to endure than the pain the person caused them. So it would be better had they not "delivered" themselves by drowning the other person. I quote the same line:

"Deliverance.....Thrown back at me
Deliverance......Laughing at me"

[QUOTE]I actually interpreted the song to be someone drowning someone to rid themselves of the pain of having them around (maybe an abusive person or whatever), but the guilt of having murdered them is worse for the murderer to endure than the pain the person caused them. So it would be better had they not "delivered" themselves by drowning the other person. I quote the same line:

"Deliverance.....Thrown back at me
Deliverance......Laughing at me"[/QUOTE]
good job, I knew it was supposed to be a deep song, but never really understood.

listening to the radio show. Those guys are so cool. Here's a quote:

Jackie: "Were there any bands on the Sounds of the Underground that you liked?"
Peter:"No (laughs)"
All: (laugh)
:lol:

so amazing to hear them on the radio. Just played Ghost of Perdition.

[QUOTE=matt4]I actually interpreted the song to be someone drowning someone to rid themselves of the pain of having them around (maybe an abusive person or whatever), but the guilt of having murdered them is worse for the murderer to endure than the pain the person caused them. So it would be better had they not "delivered" themselves by drowning the other person. I quote the same line:

"Deliverance.....Thrown back at me
Deliverance......Laughing at me"[/QUOTE]

Our interpretations are similar and I take it you misunderstood me--reread my post.

Although at no point is it undoubtedly clear why the narrator drowns the person, it definitely does not seem to be an abusive person. From what we can gather lyrically the victim is a female in a serious relationship with the narrator and that this victim also happens to be suffering emotionally for whatever reason.

Why a serious relationship?

"Tell me how your heart its need, As I drown you in the sea.."

Said victim is confiding in the narrator

"From love to death, In a time span of seconds"

Pretty self explanatory. The victim goes from feelings of love (an emotion tied to life) to death in a matter of seconds.

Why Female?

Well for one reason, the above lines lead us to believe its a relationship. Therefore it is most likely male-female.

There are more reasons but this one is the big one,

"The piercing sounds you make, soaring higher higher now"
A high pitched and piercing scream--two characteristically female traits. Now if you've been reading closely, you might be thinking the victim might be Rob Halford, and although the evidence doesn't refute this in any way, I think not:lol:

I also feel that in some twisted way the narrator feels that this is best for the victim,

"In liquid cellophane, gasping for air
Mercy in my eyes....."

Furthermore, the feelings that the narrator has are more than just guilt, they're consequences heavily rooted in supernatural elements. Religious overtones are almost everywhere--and I'll presesnt them in a cursory fashion.

"Wait to see your [I]spirit[/I] free"

"Oblivious to regret, pushed into belief"

There is definitely spirtual implications and I won't go into this now, but we can most surely tell that this line suggests that the narrator believes there is something beyond death--that it isn't the end.

"The downward spiral never ends
When driven into to [I]sin[/I]
Your [I]salvation's[/I] found in a [I]sinner's[/I] deed"

All italicized words are religiously charged words. Ignoring them would be ignoring a critical element of this song's tale. Again I'll leave details up to the rest of you. But note that the narrator's considers the victims death a salvation.

And if you had any doubts about the religious theme as the driving factor....

"Devil guides the way
Tells me what to say
Pours himself inside
Snuffs the final light
Deliverence......Thrown back at me
Deliverence......Laughing at me"

Sorry for such poor organization, prove to me that I'm not wasting my typing all this out and I'll polish my [I]shit[/I] next time.

Well there you have it this is poetry. The profound nature of poetry lies in the way the poet uses certain words to achieve a subtle grace and also infuse depth into their writing. The true meaning is not explicit but implicit.

All of Opeth's lyrics are poetic, but most aren't poetry. Not the case for this gem though, so take it in for all its glory.