Iraq had reactor grade plutonium, which is a far shot off from weapons grade plutonium.



joe

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]Here's the short version:

Basicaly, here's how it went down:

US: Hey, you commies! Listen to us and start a democracy or we're going to eff you up!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: I'm serious!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: Fine! Trade embargo time!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: Hahahah... ther is no way you will be able to survive without food and medical supplies from the United States!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: So... shouldn't you all be dying now, and caving into the US's version of Democracy?!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: Die, ****it!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!





joe[/QUOTE]

:lol:

It's all clear now.

Am I the only person that doesn't really have an opinion on it all? Or one that isn't specific enough, or would hold up to scrutiny from people? For that reason, I don't proclaim to have a strong stance on anything, except hating religion with a passion (sorry Gav), though that's more for personal reasons than religion as a whole.

Also, Orion is so beautiful... Its like electric guitars in perfect harmony. I'm so glad they didn't put it on S&M, it would have ruined it so badly.

And I should probably be leaving now. Kinda sucks to have my evening's introductory post as a leaving one. Don't know if any of you really noticed I'va head like 2 posts a day on here recently. Meh. :wave:

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]There ya go.

By the way, Radio; your English is incredible.

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]

Wow, thanks :)!

My spoken english sucks, but I am really happy with my grammar.

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]Regarding #3: If there is no thread, since there are no functioning weapons... Did you REALLY need to start a war?

Although I actually never knew that, thanks.

Regarding #4: Yes, but it did kinda limited Cuba and make their economy even weaker then it is (to my very limited knowledge)... And Silvio Rodriquez can't have a blasted concert here because the U.S doesn't grant him permition. That is just stupid.[/QUOTE]


Actually, the problem really did lie in the UN. By law, the UN should have gone into Iraq- S.H. broke countless UN resolutions. In any case, that's why the US hasn't been diciplined by the world for it's actions. We shouldn't have gone to war, but it was

A: economically beneficial to us.

B: patriotically good (for a little while).

and C: morally good-right intentions, but, to summarize the views I have on politicians deciding war, here's a quote i dug up a while ago...


"Where they went wrong was giving the politicians the bomb."

And teh weapons were operational- just not assembled yet. It's all a matter of perspective.

^ No need to be sorry about hating religion, you Nietzsche, you! ;)

Some people like it, others don't.

Mind you, I'm not "little Mr. Altar Boy," or anything, I just do the best I can to follow my religion the best way I can; be nice to everyone. I try to be as nice and unselfish as possible and keep a private relationship with God. :p

:thumb:

-Gav

Hello :wave:

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]Iraq had reactor grade plutonium, which is a far shot off from weapons grade plutonium.



joe[/QUOTE]


They did have weapons grade plutonium. The UN inspectors didn't find it, but the US did.


And Gav, I forgot to mention- voter turnout was higher this year than last election.

I'm off...I need to shower, get ready, go to a National Honor Society meeting, and give a speech. :upset:

Later guys! :wave:

:thumb:

-Gav

Hey guys.

What's up? I need to pay for an Avatar B212 tonight. :)

AMP:

[url]http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/06/iraq.wmd.report/[/url]



joe

[QUOTE=AlmightyPancake]They did have weapons grade plutonium. The UN inspectors didn't find it, but the US did.[/QUOTE]


News article? Anything besides Fox News, please.




joe

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]AMP:

[url]http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/06/iraq.wmd.report/[/url]



joe[/QUOTE]


The media's great and all, but most of my info comes from primary sources- i.e. the people there or who were there.

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]News article? Anything besides Fox News, please.




joe[/QUOTE]


Just a lot of hob-nobbing with officers. :lol: doesn't count for much online, though.

[QUOTE=AlmightyPancake]The media's great and all, but most of my info comes from primary sources- i.e. the people there or who were there.[/QUOTE]


Fill me in here then.




joe

[QUOTE=AlmightyPancake]Just a lot of hob-nobbing with officers. :lol: doesn't count for much online, though.[/QUOTE]



Not that I'm a huge fan of the media we have here, but honestly I believe that if that were true it would be written in the sky for all to see.




joe

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]Fill me in here then.




joe[/QUOTE]


All I know for sure is that many of the top officers hate the government and media for saying there was no weapons-grade uranium. According to them, it's all political bs. I'm really not sure of specifics, as I'm not allowed to hear them, but a local GS15 was explaining to me that such stuff HAS been found, but there's some sort of politics surrounding it's failure to report. Granted, they found more deteriorated nuclear-grade, but there was some weapons grade.

(my mother's the head of Marine intelligence out here, so I speak to several guys like this one.

I'm not doubting that was what was told to you, and honestly I wouldn't put it past the media/politicos to be shady like that.

It just seems that what you're telling me supports this crazy idea of the "liberal media" controling the country. I would assume that since finding weapons grade uranium or plutonium in Iraq would help out the Bush Administration so much, and he'd be able to give the finger to the rest of the world and to people like me who have been calling him a liar.

It just doesn't add up, ya know? If they found it, like I said, I would expect it to be everywhere, rubbing it in everyones face.




joe

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]I'm not doubting that was what was told to you, and honestly I wouldn't put it past the media/politicos to be shady like that.

It just seems that what you're telling me supports this crazy idea of the "liberal media" controling the country. I would assume that since finding weapons grade uranium or plutonium in Iraq would help out the Bush Administration so much, and he'd be able to give the finger to the rest of the world and to people like me who have been calling him a liar.

It just doesn't add up, ya know? If they found it, like I said, I would expect it to be everywhere, rubbing it in everyones face.




joe[/QUOTE]

It's not the media, it is politics, and I don't understand it either. If it were just one person telling me this, I'd probably brush it off, but several higher-ups tell me this. I wish I knew why, because then it would make sense....

And the media is liberal, but not as liberal as people think, and definitely not so much as to control the country. However, the media is a watchdog, and thus must be liberal. :thumb:

[QUOTE=AlmightyPancake]And the media is liberal, but not as liberal as people think, and definitely not so much as to control the country. However, the media is a watchdog, and thus must be liberal. :thumb:[/QUOTE]


Being liberal and being a watchdog have nothing in common, in reality.

I'd expect that if we had an uber liberal president trying to raise everyones taxes to 75% and extenguish state rights, that the media would have a few things to say about that.



joe

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]Being liberal and being a watchdog have nothing in common, in reality.

I'd expect that if we had an uber liberal president trying to raise everyones taxes to 75% and extenguish state rights, that the media would have a few things to say about that.



joe[/QUOTE]


However, we currently have a conservative pres. in ofice.

the media is a part of polotics

aaaarrrgggg. art exam on monday, loads of revision (still havnt even read to kill a ,ocking bird) and iv gota get the leuge song ready for sunday even though i have nothing to record on and i cant find any new programs i can get for free of sharewere programs :(.

[QUOTE=AlmightyPancake]However, we currently have a conservative pres. in ofice.[/QUOTE]


Exactly, but the press should be concerned more about honesty than politics. I'm not going to say that is the case, but it doesn't really venture too far from that.

Where news is going wrong, especially with televised news shws, is that all they are now are money making machines. Politics only matter if that's what gets people to watch the news, so they can charge more for advertising, and so they can push the products of parent companies.


Anyway, I think we both agree on this, so there is no point in really argueing, we just see the same thing in a little different way :)



joe

mmmmmm... I just found final fantasy 7... i'm off to play it. be back later mx. Nice talkin with ya JD.

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]Exactly, but the press should be concerned more about honesty than politics. I'm not going to say that is the case, but it doesn't really venture too far from that.

Where news is going wrong, especially with televised news shws, is that all they are now are money making machines. Politics only matter if that's what gets people to watch the news, so they can charge more for advertising, and so they can push the products of parent companies.


Anyway, I think we both agree on this, so there is no point in really argueing, we just see the same thing in a little different way :)



joe[/QUOTE]



Yeah, I get like that. Most people and I agree on all of the facts, and just differ on the lowest level of opinion. It was nice talking to you though.

Bye pancake. Have a good birthday!


Hey Joe! Bye Joe!

Im off to bed now. Im back to school tomorrow...

hey yall was up

no one whants to talk

See ya Pancake...... Happy Birthday.

April Birthdays r t3h PwN!!!!!1!!11!!

Hey MX,
:wave:

Hey CBR, Hey tenor, hey mx. :wave:

Hey DFIA
:wave:

I recently got a new set of flatwounds, and put 'em on my Squier. I'm planning on defretting the Squier this weekend anyways, so I tried them on it while it was still fretted.

[QUOTE=cliffburtonrules]Hey DFIA
:wave:

I recently got a new set of flatwounds, and put 'em on my Squier. I'm planning on defretting the Squier this weekend anyways, so I tried them on it while it was still fretted.[/QUOTE]
Hows she play..i sold my 4 string/1st bass bought a keyboard. :D

[QUOTE=Dieforitall89]Hows she play..i sold my 4 string/1st bass bought a keyboard. :D[/QUOTE]
The flatwounds have a tone I never expected.

As I think you once said, DFIA, it's the same sound as Steve Harris on Blood on The World's Hands.

I'm excited to defret. Also nervous I could seriously mess it up.

[QUOTE=cliffburtonrules]The flatwounds have a tone I never expected.

As I think you once said, DFIA, it's the same sound as Steve Harris on Blood on The World's Hands.

I'm excited to defret. Also nervous I could seriously mess it up.[/QUOTE]
:D Plan everything out before you do it...be it mechanical electrical or woodworking..

Ya, I'm using the lesson on here as a guide. I forgot who wrote it.

I'm not sure whether to epoxy it. I don't think I will. Then again rosewood is soft.

But I have flatwounds, the damage shouldn't be that bad.

Join Date: Jul 2004
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Classy CBR, Classy. :p

****!!!! I forgot about my 2,000th!!!!

I was soooooo counting down too!

Ugh let me go back, find my 2,000th and quote it.

:lol:

[QUOTE=cliffburtonrules]Hey DFIA
:wave:

I recently got a new set of flatwounds, and put 'em on my Squier. I'm planning on defretting the Squier this weekend anyways, so I tried them on it while it was still fretted.[/QUOTE]
I [I]think[/I] this was it.

Funnily, enough it was adressed to you.

But I'm too good to make a thread about it............ unlike [B]some[/B] people I know.. :rolleyes:

CBR...*kicks in the ovaries* No one loves you...and im 300 posts ahead of you you ...noob? :P