[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]:lol: I can only imagine...

I'm eating a roast beef sub with lettuce, tomato, and mustard. :D

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]
lets see i just had salad with no dressing which constitutes....dinner from last night, breakfast this morning , lunch, and depending on my mood maybe dinner for tonight

in conclusion you are fat

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Joe and LS...enlighten us on your systems. :)

:p

Facism for the win.

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]



I basically drink day in and day out, play with fireworks, and shoot spitwads at people all day long while everything goes to hell around me.




joe

[QUOTE=Left Shoe]lets see i just had salad with no dressing which constitutes....dinner from last night, breakfast this morning , lunch, and depending on my mood maybe dinner for tonight

in conclusion you are fat[/QUOTE]
That's terrible. You're probably incredibly unhealthy.

The United States is 49th in the world in literacy (the New York Times, Dec. 12, 2004).

· The United States ranked 28th out of 40 countries in mathematical literacy (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).

· Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the earth. Seventeen percent believe the earth revolves around the sun once a day (The Week, Jan. 7, 2005).

· "The International Adult Literacy Survey...found that Americans with less than nine years of education 'score worse than virtually all of the other countries'" (Jeremy Rifkin's superbly documented book The European Dream: How Europe's Vision of the Future Is Quietly Eclipsing the American Dream, p.78).

· Our workers are so ignorant and lack so many basic skills that American businesses spend $30 billion a year on remedial training (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004). No wonder they relocate elsewhere!

· "The European Union leads the U.S. in...the number of science and engineering graduates; public research and development (R&D) expenditures; and new capital raised" (The European Dream, p.70).

· "Europe surpassed the United States in the mid-1990s as the largest producer of scientific literature" (The European Dream, p.70).

· Nevertheless, Congress cut funds to the National Science Foundation. The agency will issue 1,000 fewer research grants this year (NYT, Dec. 21, 2004).

· Foreign applications to U.S. grad schools declined 28 percent last year. Foreign student enrollment on all levels fell for the first time in three decades, but increased greatly in Europe and China. Last year Chinese grad-school graduates in the U.S. dropped 56 percent, Indians 51 percent, South Koreans 28 percent (NYT, Dec. 21, 2004). We're not the place to be anymore.

· The World Health Organization "ranked the countries of the world in terms of overall health performance, and the U.S. [was]...37th." In the fairness of health care, we're 54th. "The irony is that the United States spends more per capita for health care than any other nation in the world" (The European Dream, pp.79-80). Pay more, get lots, lots less.

· "The U.S. and South Africa are the only two developed countries in the world that do not provide health care for all their citizens" (The European Dream, p.80). Excuse me, but since when is South Africa a "developed" country? Anyway, that's the company we're keeping.

· Lack of health insurance coverage causes 18,000 unnecessary American deaths a year. (That's six times the number of people killed on 9/11.) (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005.)

· "U.S. childhood poverty now ranks 22nd, or second to last, among the developed nations. Only Mexico scores lower" (The European Dream, p.81). Been to Mexico lately? Does it look "developed" to you? Yet it's the only "developed" country to score lower in childhood poverty.

· Twelve million American families--more than 10 percent of all U.S. households--"continue to struggle, and not always successfully, to feed themselves." Families that "had members who actually went hungry at some point last year" numbered 3.9 million (NYT, Nov. 22, 2004).

· The United States is 41st in the world in infant mortality. Cuba scores higher (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).

· Women are 70 percent more likely to die in childbirth in America than in Europe (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).

· The leading cause of death of pregnant women in this country is murder (CNN, Dec. 14, 2004).

· "Of the 20 most developed countries in the world, the U.S. was dead last in the growth rate of total compensation to its workforce in the 1980s.... In the 1990s, the U.S. average compensation growth rate grew only slightly, at an annual rate of about 0.1 percent" (The European Dream, p.39). Yet Americans work longer hours per year than any other industrialized country, and get less vacation time.

· "Sixty-one of the 140 biggest companies on the Global Fortune 500 rankings are European, while only 50 are U.S. companies" (The European Dream, p.66). "In a recent survey of the world's 50 best companies, conducted by Global Finance, all but one were European" (The European Dream, p.69).

· "Fourteen of the 20 largest commercial banks in the world today are European.... In the chemical industry, the European company BASF is the world's leader, and three of the top six players are European. In engineering and construction, three of the top five companies are European.... The two others are Japanese. Not a single American engineering and construction company is included among the world's top nine competitors. In food and consumer products, Nestlé and Unilever, two European giants, rank first and second, respectively, in the world. In the food and drugstore retail trade, two European companies...are first and second, and European companies make up five of the top ten. Only four U.S. companies are on the list" (The European Dream, p.68).

· The United States has lost 1.3 million jobs to China in the last decade (CNN, Jan. 12, 2005).

· U.S. employers eliminated 1 million jobs in 2004 (The Week, Jan. 14, 2005).

· Three million six hundred thousand Americans ran out of unemployment insurance last year; 1.8 million--one in five--unemployed workers are jobless for more than six months (NYT, Jan. 9, 2005).

· Japan, China, Taiwan, and South Korea hold 40 percent of our government debt. (That's why we talk nice to them.) "By helping keep mortgage rates from rising, China has come to play an enormous and little-noticed role in sustaining the American housing boom" (NYT, Dec. 4, 2004). Read that twice. We owe our housing boom to China, because they want us to keep buying all that stuff they manufacture.

· Sometime in the next 10 years Brazil will probably pass the U.S. as the world's largest agricultural producer. Brazil is now the world's largest exporter of chickens, orange juice, sugar, coffee, and tobacco. Last year, Brazil passed the U.S. as the world's largest beef producer. (Hear that, you poor deluded cowboys?) As a result, while we bear record trade deficits, Brazil boasts a $30 billion trade surplus (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).

· As of last June, the U.S. imported more food than it exported (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).

· Bush: 62,027,582 votes. Kerry: 59,026,003 votes. Number of eligible voters who didn't show up: 79,279,000 (NYT, Dec. 26, 2004). That's more than a third. Way more. If more than a third of Iraqis don't show for their election, no country in the world will think that election legitimate.

· One-third of all U.S. children are born out of wedlock. One-half of all U.S. children will live in a one-parent house (CNN, Dec. 10, 2004).

· "Americans are now spending more money on gambling than on movies, videos, DVDs, music, and books combined" (The European Dream, p.28).

· "Nearly one out of four Americans [believe] that using violence to get what they want is acceptable" (The European Dream, p.32).

· Forty-three percent of Americans think torture is sometimes justified, according to a PEW Poll (Associated Press, Aug. 19, 2004).

· "Nearly 900,000 children were abused or neglected in 2002, the last year for which such data are available" (USA Today, Dec. 21, 2004).

· "The International Association of Chiefs of Police said that cuts by the [Bush] administration in federal aid to local police agencies have left the nation more vulnerable than ever" (USA Today, Nov. 17, 2004).



joe

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]That's terrible. You're probably incredibly unhealthy.[/QUOTE]
probably, but till something bad happens health related im incredibly emo lol

Food for thought.....



joe

America got 15th place for the "happiest place".

Puerto Rico got 1st. How, I have no idea.

:lol: Joe, that was so brilliant.

By the way, LS; nice political system.

:thumb:

-Gav

Today was the "Day of Silence."

Yeah...shutting the **** up really exemplifies gay rights.

Ridiculous.

Yep we suck.

I think this is my favorite:

Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the earth. Seventeen percent believe the earth revolves around the sun once a day (The Week, Jan. 7, 2005).



joe

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]America got 15th place for the "happiest place".

Puerto Rico got 1st. How, I have no idea.[/QUOTE]

That's cool. I don't like it here very much. I'm not saying I want to leave; I like what this country stands for, but the people here piss me off. The government isn't that great, either. :upset:

/will be told to leave the US

I'll end up moving to Canada or the UK sometime soon.

:thumb:

-Gav

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]I think this is my favorite:

Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the earth. Seventeen percent believe the earth revolves around the sun once a day (The Week, Jan. 7, 2005).



joe[/QUOTE]

I saved those facts on my computer. I laughed out loud when I read those.

:thumb:

-Gav

[QUOTE=BassVirtuoso]Today was the "Day of Silence."

Yeah...shutting the **** up really exemplifies gay rights.

Ridiculous.[/QUOTE]


:lol:


I organized the local one at my school... it's not to promote gay rights, It's an example of what ahppens when groups are censored, and is, despite beliefs, more targeted to the people DOING it than the people around them. It's really really hard watching everything happen around you.

[QUOTE=Dieforitall89]Yep we suck.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, like I said, I don't really like it here.

:upset:

:thumb:

-Gav

Because America is one of the few places you can drop out of school and still get a comfortable life.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Yeah, like I said, I don't really like it here.

:upset:

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]



I, on the other hand, love it.

[QUOTE=AlmightyPancake]:lol:


I organized the local one at my school... it's not to promote gay rights, It's an example of what ahppens when groups are censored, and is, despite beliefs, more targeted to the people DOING it than the people around them. It's really really hard watching everything happen around you.[/QUOTE]

I just don't see the point if you're not going to get anything done.

Gav: In all honesty, if it wasn't for my friends and all, I would leave once I get 18... And Canada rules :).

After checking for reviews... SNK vs. Capcom is definitely the most underrated fighting games.

[QUOTE=AlmightyPancake]:lol:


I organized the local one at my school... it's not to promote gay rights, It's an example of what ahppens when groups are censored, and is, despite beliefs, more targeted to the people DOING it than the people around them. It's really really hard watching everything happen around you.[/QUOTE]

I am the most liberal person you'll ever meet (minus a few things).

Go gay rights. Go minority rights. Boo on the War on Iraq. Bush sucks (and I have reasons why I think so; I'm not one of those losers who hates Bush because it's the popular thing to do).

However, I'm divided on abortion. :confused:

:thumb:

-Gav

I've got a college degree and I still can't find a job ;)

Of course, I am picky and refuse to work for a company or organization that does not share similar values.




joe

uhhh im bi, how exactly does not talking educate about gay rights...

[QUOTE=BassVirtuoso]Because America is one of the few places you can drop out of school and still get a comfortable life.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, which explains why this country is ruled by idiots.

*looks at Bush*
*looks at managers at jobs nation wide*

:thumb:

-Gav

Please, let's not let a bunch of teenage males get into an arguement about abortion.




joe

Im off to lessons, bye mx. :wave:

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]I am the most liberal person you'll ever meet (minus a few things).

Go gay rights. Go minority rights. Boo on the War on Iraq. Bush sucks (and I have reasons why I think so; I'm not one of those losers who hates Bush because it's the popular thing to do).

However, I'm divided on abortion. :confused:

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]
im kinda divided on abortion but my stance is
dont like abortion dont have one

if we outlawed it then more people would die form rusty coat hangers in back alleys going with a D.I.Y. american attitude. i figure its a choice of the mother let her have it.
and to those who say "well use the orphanage" there are so many kids who turn 18 in an orphanage and go out into the world without a foster parent so the orphanage isnt a very good alternative especially once they get filled up

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]Gav: In all honesty, if it wasn't for my friends and all, I would leave once I get 18... And Canada rules :).

After checking for reviews... SNK vs. Capcom is definitely the most underrated fighting games.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I want to, trust me, but I can't; my whole life is here, which sort of sucks.

Every time someone tells me, "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE, GET OUT! GO TO AFGHANISTAN AND LIVE UNDER SADDAM!" I just laugh. It's pathetic, really.

If anywhere, I'd probably go to England. The English countryside is beautiful.

:thumb:

-Gav

[QUOTE=BassVirtuoso]I just don't see the point if you're not going to get anything done.[/QUOTE]


It's called a learning experience. Give it a shot, you'll see what I mean. Don't look at it from the protest standpoint, it isn't from mine. It's just to teach people interested in doing it what discrimination was like.


Now the people who turned their backs at the inauguration- that was pointless.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Yeah, which explains why this country is ruled by idiots.

*looks at Bush*
*looks at managers at jobs nation wide*

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]


I don't like people calling Bush an idiot. That gets him out of trouble too easily. And he's obviously a very intelligent person (there are other kinds of smarts other than book smarts) which should be easy to see by what he has accomplished.




joe

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]Please, let's not let a bunch of teenage males get into an arguement about abortion.




joe[/QUOTE]


123

I find the idea of gays silly, but they should get married if they want to... Not my concern.

War sucks. No matter what.

Bush is actually a genious; he fooled us all thinking Iraw had weapons of mass destruction, when Israel (an ally) had them all along. Why did you reelect him, tho?

Something that troubles me about America: Why do they not trade with Cuba (or let them go to America/Puerto Rico :()? Your excuse is "becayse they are a communist", but you trade with China all the time.

English limited me in that bit :(

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]I don't like people calling Bush an idiot. That gets him out of trouble too easily. And he's obviously a very intelligent person (there are other kinds of smarts other than book smarts) which should be easy to see by what he has accomplished.




joe[/QUOTE]


123 again!


:lol:


Joe Daddio is now my official spokesman. THE PANCAKE HATH SPOKEN.

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]I find the idea of gays silly, but they should get married if they want to... Not my concern.

War sucks. No matter what.

Bush is actually a genious; he fooled us all thinking Iraw had weapons of mass destruction, when Israel (an ally) had them all along. Why did you reelect him, tho?

Something that troubles me about America: Why do they not trade with Cuba (or let them go to America/Puerto Rico :()? Your excuse is "becayse they are a communist", but you trade with China all the time.

English limited me in that bit :([/QUOTE]


1. War does suck. Most soldiers are anti-war.

2. Iraq had weapons of mass destruction... or rather, they has weapons-grade plutonium, nuclear shells, and rockets, as well as mobile chemical weapon labs. However, There were no assembled weapons, and people interpret that to mean no weapons.

3. Isreal's been nuclear for a while, as have india and Pakistan, who will likely blow each other up here soon.

4. Cuba is inessential to our economy and not a threat.

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]I find the idea of gays silly, but they should get married if they want to... Not my concern.

War sucks. No matter what.

Bush is actually a genious; he fooled us all thinking Iraw had weapons of mass destruction, when Israel (an ally) had them all along. Why did you reelect him, tho?

Something that troubles me about America: Why do they not trade with Cuba (or let them go to America/Puerto Rico :()? Your excuse is "becayse they are a communist", but you trade with China all the time.

English limited me in that bit :([/QUOTE]

War always sucks. I hate war. **** war.

Bush is a genius because he surrounds himself with smart people. However, I do NOT approve of what he has done in office for the most part (save a few things).

Bush was re-elected because both candidates in this race were horrible. Kerry was definitely the lesser of two evils, but right now, the nation is at war. We can't change presidents during a war. It shows the enemy we're wavering. By electing Bush, we showed them we're not backing down.

However, I think this is the most difinitive reason: no one voted. If I could've voted, I wouldn't have. It was a crappy situation: pick an evil man with a horrible agenda and show the enemy we're strong or pick a new less-evil but ungraceful and "unintelligent" (regardingly worldly matters) president that shows the enemy they're starting to beat the American conscience?

I would've casted no vote.

:thumb:

-Gav

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]
Something that troubles me about America: Why do they not trade with Cuba (or let them go to America/Puerto Rico :()? Your excuse is "becayse they are a communist", but you trade with China all the time.([/QUOTE]


Here's the short version:

Basicaly, here's how it went down:

US: Hey, you commies! Listen to us and start a democracy or we're going to eff you up!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: I'm serious!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: Fine! Trade embargo time!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: Hahahah... ther is no way you will be able to survive without food and medical supplies from the United States!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: So... shouldn't you all be dying now, and caving into the US's version of Democracy?!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: Die, ****it!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!





joe

[QUOTE=AlmightyPancake]1. War does suck. Most soldiers are anti-war.

2. Iraq had weapons of mass destruction... or rather, they has weapons-grade plutonium, nuclear shells, and rockets, as well as mobile chemical weapon labs. However, There were no assembled weapons, and people interpret that to mean no weapons.

3. Isreal's been nuclear for a while, as have india and Pakistan, who will likely blow each other up here soon.

4. Cuba is inessential to our economy and not a threat.[/QUOTE]

1- "Love the soldiers, hate the war." I 100% support our troops, but I DO NOT support the war.

2- Yes

3- Yes

4- I will never understand US foreign policy :lol:

:thumb:

-Gav

Regarding #2: If there is no threat, since there are no functioning weapons... Did you REALLY need to start a war?

Although I actually never knew that, thanks.

Regarding #4: Yes, but it did kinda limited Cuba and make their economy even weaker then it is (to my very limited knowledge)... And Silvio Rodriquez can't have a blasted concert here because the U.S doesn't grant him permition. That is just stupid.

EDIT:

#3: They haven't gone to war with them, which baffles me. Then again, Bush probably doesn't mean to, as he has enough hate already.

Also, didn't Korea admit they had some, but were only storing them incase they needed to defent themselves?

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]Here's the short version:

Basicaly, here's how it went down:

US: Hey, you commies! Listen to us and start a democracy or we're going to eff you up!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: I'm serious!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: Fine! Trade embargo time!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: Hahahah... ther is no way you will be able to survive without food and medical supplies from the United States!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: So... shouldn't you all be dying now, and caving into the US's version of Democracy?!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!

US: Die, ****it!

Cuba: Eff you bastards!





joe[/QUOTE]


You forgot to mention:

"US: Fine! We'll invade you!

*Bay of Pigs*

Cuba: Eff you bastards!"

Other than that, perfect. :cool:

:thumb:

-Gav

[QUOTE=AlmightyPancake]It's called a learning experience. Give it a shot, you'll see what I mean. Don't look at it from the protest standpoint, it isn't from mine. It's just to teach people interested in doing it what discrimination was like.


Now the people who turned their backs at the inauguration- that was pointless.[/QUOTE]

I didn't learn anything. The only thing it accomplished was a dislike for the people wearing the signs and heated arguments.

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]Regarding #3: If there is no thread, since there are no functioning weapons... Did you REALLY need to start a war?

Although I actually never knew that, thanks.

Regarding #4: Yes, but it did kinda limited Cuba and make their economy even weaker then it is (to my very limited knowledge)... And Silvio Rodriquez can't have a blasted concert here because the U.S doesn't grant him permition. That is just stupid.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass] I will never understand US foreign policy :lol: [/QUOTE]

There ya go.

By the way, Radio; your English is incredible.

:thumb:

-Gav