check out Grim Heart/Black Rose

will do

ugh dont listen to him just get Petitioning the Empty Sky

how bout i listen to both of you and check both of em out?

...basically just get all Converge releases.

lol like i said, im still trying to get into em,
they're still not my favorite band to listen to, its the vocals, the music is great, im just am not the biggest fan of his vox, but ill give it time, i wont write them off right off the bat.

[QUOTE=Mattijuana;15781467]No Heroes is more varied, IMO. I like it more, but a lot of people seem to like Jane Doe more than No Heroes.[/QUOTE]

No Heroes sucks compared to Jane Doe.

Why do so many people puss about the vocals?

im the kind of music listener that i need a LOT of variation on all sides of the music, and IN MY OPINION (please no one get butt hurt) i feel the vocals sound the same in every single song. I get bored with them quickly. again thats just my opinion. but i am giving them a chance i am listening to thier stuff and making my judgements based on that
i will say i like them a lot more now, then when i first heard them.

just got Starkweather album for 10 bucks yesterday

sweet deal

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781631]just got Starkweather album for 10 bucks yesterday

sweet deal[/QUOTE]

who?

Judging musical value solely on vocals ftw

np Converge - Thaw

no i judging thembased solely on vocals, they have amazing music and they make some verrry intense music. and i love intensity. just after a while the vocals get on my nerves but i seem to be liking them the more i continue to listen.

I don't really care for their vocals either. They tend to get annoying after awhile.

Converge don't have excellent vocals, still doesn't detract from them bein excellent.

np Poison The Well - Slice Paper Wrists

classic metalcore song if there ever was one :)

i know like i said im liking em more, the more i listen to them, i love poison the well YCBY is an amazing album i dont have thier new one yet.

It's alot different then their older stuff. I don't like it as much as the other stuff.

yeah...thats what ive heard from a few different people, i think i might still check it out

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781631]just got Starkweather album for 10 bucks yesterday

sweet deal[/QUOTE]

Which?

[QUOTE=bunit9488;15781644]who?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.myspace.com/starkweather666[/url]

edit : Cocaine, it was Croatoan

[QUOTE=bunit9488;15781699]yeah...thats what ive heard from a few different people, i think i might still check it out[/QUOTE]

Yah, totally, check it out. I'm just saying it's alot different.

they sound pretty damn good you say the album is pretty good?

It's pretty good, it's just different. I personally liked the older stuff better, but it's still good. How could PTW not be good?

well, Tear From The Red sucked for start

i dont think they could not be good. but like you said, the new album is different but ill check it out anyway.

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781741]well, Tear From The Red sucked for start[/QUOTE]

i disagree greatly

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781741]well, Tear From The Red sucked for start[/QUOTE]

Tear From The Red is great, tbh.

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781741]well, Tear From The Red sucked for start[/QUOTE]

It's their worst album. It had like 2 good songs on it. The rest were average.

TOOD > YCBY > Versions > TFTR

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781741]well, Tear From The Red sucked for start[/QUOTE]

I'm going to have to disagree too. I think Versions was the worst.

Versions was miles ahead of Tear From The Red.

Versions was terrible. They ruined a bunch of songs that they had better versions of (I think that's where they got the name, unfortunately they went with the gay versions).

Hopesfall just broke-up. :/