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Aaron 09-24-2008 08:47 PM

Depends if you want a really clear sound or something that shimmers [ie the ReZo].

AfroMan 09-25-2008 12:44 PM

Hmm... by that do you mean the Sabian has a quicker decay? Id be using it as more of a 'chorus' crash than an 'accent' crash so would that make the ReZo's shimmer the better option?

I can't see myself being dissapointed with an AAX to be honest but I've been curious about the ReZo ever since I heard it was one of Zildjian's most explosive cymbals... looks good too.

Aaron 09-29-2008 03:33 AM

No I mean that it's got a different style of decay.
Picture the same length decay, but one alot more vibrato-y.

Tim 09-29-2008 08:38 PM

so this is just a general brag but i picked up a 19 inch virgil donati saturation crash with 3 rivets for $80. Its freakin sweet.

Aaron 09-29-2008 10:23 PM

:eek:
want

Muad_Dib 10-18-2008 05:23 PM

Hello everyone!

I'm new here, and this is my first post.

I recently purchased a pair of Paiste (2002 Sound edge) hats that are almost ideal, but are just not quite articulate or bright enough for my taste.

I am looking for a pair that are bright, clean and not too washy sounding, but at the same time not too thin sounding either.

I am also looking for the ideal crash ride, something to fill in the space in heavy, drop tuned sort of riffs (one of my bands typically uses drop Db or C tuning).

Any help will be appreciated! Thanks.

I also was wondering what section would be best for questions about drum mics?

ant_182 10-19-2008 02:28 PM

14" Mastersounds? A or A Customs?

Muad_Dib 10-19-2008 03:41 PM

Any Sabian suggestions?

I own a couple of cymbals by the Big three and i think sabian are my favorite.

I've played As before, not what I'm looking for. Maybe I'm not good at describing what I had in mind.

The Mastersound clips on the Zildjian Website sound good though. I was thinking something brighter maybe?

Aaron 10-19-2008 03:57 PM

Check out the UFIP Class Series. Exactly what you described.

crazyguy832 10-19-2008 04:31 PM

For the crash, look into AAX. Specifically, the Bright series between 17"-19".

For the hats... agreed as far as A or A Custom Mastersounds go.

ant_182 10-21-2008 01:42 PM

I think the a customs are brighter for the mastersounds, although I now miss my a mastersounds :(

Lem0n 10-30-2008 04:19 PM

Going into my local music store to check out some cymbals next week.


Im looking for a crashable ride, 20" preferably. Any suggestions?

Aaron 10-31-2008 03:58 AM

20" K Crash-Ride

LoneStarDrummer 10-31-2008 09:24 AM

[quote=Muad_Dib;16786379]

I also was wondering what section would be best for questions about drum mics?[/quote]

i'd use the search feature first, if it's working. there have been numerous threads on the subject. there's a member on here named chippy who seems to know quite a bit on the subject. you can find his answers in a lot of old threads.

if you can't find what you're looking for or the search feature isn't working (happens often) the post the thread in the gear and media section.

chewaz 11-21-2008 10:27 AM

my new babies

[IMG]http://fc27.deviantart.com/fs39/i/2008/326/e/2/9_by_Cnewaz.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://fc46.deviantart.com/fs38/i/2008/326/7/2/8_by_Cnewaz.jpg[/IMG]

oliv_da_skinmasher 11-22-2008 06:44 PM

Very nice choices

Damo 11-22-2008 08:04 PM

Just sold two of my cymbals today. In the next few weeks Ill be changing over the majority of my cymbals (including prototypes) for some new stock. My sponsorship with Sabian Australia encourages me to keep bringing newer models into my setup.

Just sold an 18" HHX Stage and 19" HHXplosion crash and added 16 & 18 Evolution crashes.

Its good having new gear!

Seafroggys 11-24-2008 02:14 AM

18" Classic Crash = :thumb:

Probably my favorite crash right now.

DemonicRubberDucky 11-26-2008 11:50 AM

Recommend me a very dark crash that can take more of a beating than Sabian Evolutions.

Aaron 11-26-2008 09:53 PM

Question for Jezen; where can I get a [FONT=Verdana]Zildaisteabian 66" Heavy Gospel Ride?[/FONT]

sleepless 12-01-2008 08:49 PM

Preparing to leave Sabian and become a Paiste artist...

What do you think of my choices:

14 New Signature Dark Energy Hats
17 Signature Reflector Heavy Full Crash
20 New Signature Dark Metal Ride
18 Signature Full Crash

The hats and the ride look soooo sick.

oliv_da_skinmasher 12-01-2008 09:47 PM

The new sigs wouldnt be my first choices but yeah they look like good picks

sleepless 12-01-2008 11:08 PM

[QUOTE=oliv_da_skinmasher;16912341]The new sigs wouldnt be my first choices but yeah they look like good picks[/QUOTE]

Why is that?

I liked the Dark Energy hats because they reminded me of my Sabian favorites, the HHX Power hats.

And my mistake, the Dark Metal Ride is Signature, not New Sig.

oliv_da_skinmasher 12-02-2008 07:22 AM

They just wouldn't have been my first choice. Theres hats I prefer over the new sigs thats all

LoneStarDrummer 12-02-2008 01:51 PM

[quote=sleepless;16912115]Preparing to leave Sabian and become a Paiste artist...

What do you think of my choices:

14 New Signature Dark Energy Hats
17 Signature Reflector Heavy Full Crash
20 New Signature Dark Metal Ride
18 Signature Full Crash

The hats and the ride look soooo sick.[/quote]
sig full and mellow cashes are so freaking beautiful sounding. i love those things, but they're so damn pricey.

dark energy hats are nice. i own a pair of hhx power hats (my favorite as well) so they would make a nice piaste replacement. however, i would probably go with something more crisp. if i were to go with piaste, i'd being using full and mellow crashes, so i'd want something to compliment the overall sound.

i''ve never played that ride or any of the reflector series.

raz0r 12-02-2008 03:12 PM

[QUOTE=sleepless;16912115]Preparing to leave Sabian and become a Paiste artist...

What do you think of my choices:

14 New Signature Dark Energy Hats
17 Signature Reflector Heavy Full Crash
20 New Signature Dark Metal Ride
18 Signature Full Crash

The hats and the ride look soooo sick.[/QUOTE]

A Dark Metal ride with dark energy hats?

Couldn't really be further apart in sound/volume.

That dark metal ride will be LOUD and one dimensional.

And those new signatures are nothing like HHX Power Hats :S

sleepless 12-02-2008 04:01 PM

They sound a lot a like, actually. They might not be the same in weight and profile.

Have you played each of these in person, or are these merely educated suppositions? No offense intended of course, just curious.

I haven't heard the ride in person, unfortunately.

And yeah, Sigs are expensive but I'm getting everything at about cost +shipping.

LoneStarDrummer 12-02-2008 04:41 PM

well, i've never played or heard those dark energy hats in person, but based off the sound clip they do indeed sound similar to hhx power hats.

i've been told that paiste's sound clips are pretty accurate and from what i can tell from their full and mellow crashes, the sound clips do indeed give you a good bases to go off of.

Mirror.Circuit 12-24-2008 10:25 PM

[QUOTE=raz0r;16914223]A Dark Metal ride with dark energy hats?

Couldn't really be further apart in sound/volume.

That dark metal ride will be LOUD and one dimensional.

And those new signatures are nothing like HHX Power Hats :S[/QUOTE]

dark metal isn't a metal genre ride like a z custom or anything.
it's a different kind of metal than they use on their normal rides i'm pretty sure.

raz0r 12-25-2008 05:39 AM

[QUOTE=Mirror.Circuit;16981160]dark metal isn't a metal genre ride like a z custom or anything.
it's a different kind of metal than they use on their normal rides i'm pretty sure.[/QUOTE]

It's not 'officially' a metal ride but it plays exactly like one.
I think the dark colour is just a visual thing, I don't [B]think[/B] it affects the sound.

Just because the sound clips sound the same, it doesn't mean the cymbals will play the same.
They might sound the same at one volume, but completely different at another.


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