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Killtacular 10-18-2005 07:10 PM

I'd say Blackwater Park is about... fourth in line. Maybe fifth.

I need to listen to Orchid more.

Deth 10-18-2005 07:14 PM

Me too, it always seems to fall to the wayside in the wake of Still Life and Morningrise. I feel bad for it really.

Killtacular 10-18-2005 07:16 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Me too, it always seems to fall to the wayside in the wake of Still Life and Morningrise. I feel bad for it really.[/QUOTE]

Still Life is just such a large ammount better than BP, it's sickening.

bball_1523 10-18-2005 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Is it just me or is Deliverance underrated as hell? Amazing album, one of their best[/QUOTE]

very underrated. I love Wreath especially, many people just do not like that song. It's one of the most depressing songs I've ever heard Opeth make. You can't beat that solo man, it's just too powerful, I CAN FEEL IT!

Deth 10-18-2005 07:22 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]Still Life is just such a large ammount better than BP, it's sickening.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree. Since getting Still Life, I've barely listened to BWP.

Darkness 10-18-2005 07:22 PM

[QUOTE=bball_1523]very underrated. I love Wreath especially, many people just do not like that song. It's one of the most depressing songs I've ever heard Opeth make. You can't beat that solo man, it's just too powerful, I CAN FEEL IT![/QUOTE]
The 2nd solo? Yes, its "metal madness" like the reviewer on sputknick said. :D :thumb: Amazing song. Nothing beats the emotion that Mikeal has when he's screaming his ass off near the end with the 2 different vocals... its great.

Killtacular 10-18-2005 07:24 PM

I love the opening riff to Master's Apprentice. Such heaviness.

Kaiwaz 10-18-2005 07:25 PM

I think Blackwater Park is Opeth's [I]peak[/I] album. Not only does it cover a lot of ground, but shows the listener Opeth's evolution. I like it a lot, brilliant writing. I never used to like it as much as I do now.

Deth 10-18-2005 07:25 PM

I think my new favorite Opeth solo is The Funeral Portrait. Or White Cluster, it's so different to any other of their solos.

Darkness 10-18-2005 07:28 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I think Blackwater Park is Opeth's [I]peak[/I] album. Not only does it cover a lot of ground, but shows the listener Opeth's evolution. I like it a lot, brilliant writing. I never used to like it as much as I do now.[/QUOTE]
Definatly the best starting point for someone new, but once you get more in depth in the band, you will learn to understand/appreciate the other stuff a lot more.

Deth 10-18-2005 07:33 PM

Hey, Darkness, before this post, we had the exact same number of posts!

Man, we rock!

Killtacular 10-18-2005 07:36 PM

Whenever I introduce someone to Opeth, I give them Blackwater Park first. It's just such a great introductory album.

Magicaltroll 10-18-2005 07:36 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]Still Life is just such a large ammount better than BP, it's sickening.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I need to listen to it more then...
That never was my favorite album.

I also didn't care much for My Arms, Your Hearst.

And the new album isn't doing much for me either. Everything else though, is great.

Darkness 10-18-2005 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Hey, Darkness, before this post, we had the exact same number of posts!

Man, we rock![/QUOTE]
Thats awesome! :D To bad I've been here a lot longer then you..

Kaiwaz 10-18-2005 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Definatly the best starting point for someone new, but once you get more in depth in the band, you will learn to understand/appreciate the other stuff a lot more.[/QUOTE]


I bought Blackwater Park like 3 years after I was into Opeth. I am pretty [I]in depth[/I] in the band. I never used to like it, but now I love it. It's a great album.

Deth 10-18-2005 07:41 PM

Yeah, I'm a prodigy.

Killtacular 10-18-2005 07:46 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]I also didn't care much for My Arms, Your Hearse.
And the new album isn't doing much for me either. Everything else though, is great.[/QUOTE]

I feel this way, as well.

Deth 10-18-2005 07:51 PM

MAYH is now one of my favorites, but it really had to work it's way up the ladder to get there. I didn't like it much for a while.

Darkness 10-18-2005 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]MAYH is now one of my favorites, but it really had to work it's way up the ladder to get there. I didn't like it much for a while.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that album is going to take me a while to really get into... When and Demon Of The Fall are still classics though.

Jude 10-18-2005 08:31 PM

Blackwater Park is, objectively speaking, as good as Still Life, but I just like Still Life a lot more.

Toaster 10-18-2005 08:47 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]The 2nd solo? Yes, its "metal madness" like the reviewer on sputknick said. :D :thumb: Amazing song. Nothing beats the emotion that Mikeal has when he's screaming his ass off near the end with the 2 different vocals... its great.[/QUOTE]

Man, I really disagree with you there. Akerfeldt sounds wayy too much like Kirk Hammet there for my taste. The whole double-stop, wah solo with hammer-ons and the like, its not the style I usually love hearing from him.

ok lateralus 10-18-2005 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]Still Life is just such a large ammount better than BP, it's sickening.[/QUOTE]
True, though BWP is great. It's just the way SL works as a cohesive album that is why it beats out BWP, the concept is great

Darkness 10-18-2005 08:51 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]Man, I really disagree with you there. Akerfeldt sounds wayy too much like Kirk Hammet there for my taste. The whole double-stop, wah solo with hammer-ons and the like, its not the style I usually love hearing from him.[/QUOTE]
I hear no Hamment influence in that solo... Its not as fast as him, I don't hear ANY wah there, and just because he uses some hammer ons doesn't make him Kirk, everyone uses hammer ones. He uses them often to, see the Leper Affinity's solo.

ok lateralus 10-18-2005 08:54 PM

I've listened to Deliverance (twice), MAYH, and Blackwater Park all today, the other day I listened to Orchid 3 times in a row and I've been listening to Damnation just about every night recently. Am i obsessed? I think I am. Who else is like this where they can't go a day without listening to Opeth.

Shadows 10-18-2005 08:55 PM

So far I'm liking every Opeth album, but Morningrise still hasn't clicked with me at all.

Toaster 10-18-2005 08:55 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Definatly the best starting point for someone new, but once you get more in depth in the band, you will learn to understand/appreciate the other stuff a lot more.[/QUOTE]

Not to badger you, and this isn't directed at you, but..

I really hate it when people think that "oh, you like BWP best, you're an Opeth n00b". No, I have every album, and I like BWP the best. The songwriting is Opeth's most unpredictable and interesting IMO, and the reccuring use of the E-bow is just awesome.

Darkness 10-18-2005 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]I've listened to Deliverance (twice), MAYH, and Blackwater Park all today, the other day I listened to Orchid 3 times in a row and I've been listening to Damnation just about every night recently. Am i obsessed? I think I am. Who else is like this where they can't go a day without listening to Opeth.[/QUOTE]
I can't go a day without at least one song, but I've been listening to lots of In Flames and Nevermore lately, so I've cut back on the Opeth a bit for now.

[QUOTE=toaster135]Not to badger you, and this isn't directed at you, but..

I really hate it when people think that "oh, you like BWP best, you're an Opeth n00b". No, I have every album, and I like BWP the best. The songwriting is Opeth's most unpredictable and interesting IMO, and the reccuring use of the E-bow is just awesome.[/QUOTE]
Whoa dude, I was just saying BWP is the best place to start, as it has everything Opeth can do, and you can pretty much pick where you want to go from there depending on which particular side of the band you want. I'm not saying liking BWP the most is bad. :confused: Its a great album, and I know lots of people that hold that as their highest.

ok lateralus 10-18-2005 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]So far I'm liking every Opeth album, but Morningrise still hasn't clicked with me at all.[/QUOTE]

Hm, give it time. Once you absorb every part of all the songs you'll get it. At first I had trouble with it too but now I'm in love with it

RouteOne 10-18-2005 09:04 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]So far I'm liking every Opeth album, but Morningrise still hasn't clicked with me at all.[/QUOTE]
Is there anything bothering you about the album?

Shadows 10-18-2005 09:19 PM

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]Is there anything bothering you about the album?[/QUOTE]
Nothing in particular. It's been a whil, so chances are if I listened to it again I'd like it more. But back in the day it was my absolute least favorite Opeth album. It just seemed so bland and boring musically.


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