^^^

thats how it goes.

AA/AAX = 20" Ride = 20" Crash = 20" Chinese for price
HH/HHX = same idea

^I like the way that works, makes it easier to know the price of other cymbals if you know the price for the same size, and 14" hats will usually run about the same as a 22" cymbal.13" hats will usually run for about a 21" cymbal price, and as for 15" hats don't ask me how much....^

Anyways any thoughts about the crystal ride, I like it but for 225 for an 18" I was wondering would an 18" AA flat ride would sound simalar, and also what do people think of the new artistian rides....

I need a ride to go with the rest of my cymbals. Right now i have paiste innovations highats, paiste 18 full and fast crashes, and a k custom 14 fast crash. My ride is an aa metal x, but it sounds so out of place. I was thinking of a paiste sig dry crisp ot a k or k custom. Which would fit better in there, and if you can recommend any other brands that would be nice to.

Hey try paying £230 for a 21" HH ride, that's how much my Raw Bell Dry Ride cost, it just makes me look after it even better i suppose!!

[quote]Anyways any thoughts about the crystal ride, I like it but for 225 for an 18" I was wondering would an 18" AA flat ride would sound simalar, and also what do people think of the new artistian rides....[/quote]

the thing about the signature line, is that they were designed specifically for the drummers who's names are on them. This could mean that the cymbal might work out for you, but most likely would not. Now, if your right into jazz, and want to have that very same sound, then maybe the Crystal ride is worth looking into. if you just want a jazzy ride, then i suggest the AA Flat ride first.

as for the Vault Artisan ride, i havent tried one, but from the way Sabian describes it, i'm guessing its their take on the Constantinople rides Zildjian makes.

Well, first hi@all, this forum looks really great, I hope that I can learn a bit from other drummers :thumb:

Now, my question:
I have had 13 years of professional drumming lessons and am searching for a metal-Band at the moment. The only problem (except finding a band near my home :rolleyes: ) is my drumset. Perhaps you know [url]www.thomann.de[/url], they sell Drumsets from "Millenium" with their own no-name-cymbals in their shop, I have such an Drumset at home :amaze: , and I started to upgrade my cymbal-set with an Paiste Dimensions 17" Medium heavy Crash, and it fits really great to the rest of my cymbals (14"-Medium-HiHat no-name (HLX is printed on them), 16" no-name (HLX too), 20"-Ride (HLX), 8" Meinl Headliner Splash, 10"-Meinl Headliner Splash (this one is in a very bad state, lots of loooong cracks, a big piece of it flew away already :naughty: , this "cymbal" is treatened as a mini-Chinese ^^).

I myself am a really great fan of Paiste, and I want to upgrade my drumset mostly with Paiste-cymbals. As I already mentioned I am a metal-drummer so I need cymbals that can stand my aggressive playing. I have already an eye on the Dimensions 18" Power Crash, but I want to buy either a new ride-cymbal (should sound pingy and loud, not too dark, my sticking should be heared over my double-bass-playing ;) ) or new HiHat-Cymbals (should sound crispy, but not too agressive, thought about the Dimensions Medium Crunch HiHats).

There I need your advice: I am a student at the moment, so I can't buy everything together, so what would you upgrade first: the HiHat or the Ride-cymbal? Can you recommend me perhaps a cymbal from another manufacturer (the Zildjian Z Custom 20"-Ride sounds great, too, but does it fit to the Paiste Dimensions?)?

Thank you very much!

(And sorry for spelling- or expression-mistakes, I am from Germany :p )

alwyas hats a ride first.

for the ride, i'd say an A. Zildjian Rock Ride would be a good choice, and as for the Dimensions, that could be a little too dark for what your looking for....maybe try the 2002 Power Crash.

Hats? maybe the 2002 Sound edge hats or Heavy Hats.

what do think of this cymbal steup?..

crashes - 18" and 19" AAX xplosions
ride - 20" HHX evolution
hats - AAX X-celerators

Having two identical type crashes with just an inch difference always seems a bad idea - too similar in sound.

A similar problem I'm having. Crash-wise, i just bought a Zildjian A Custom 17" Projection Crash to complement a 16" Dark K and an 18" Medium A. I'm finding the 17" and 18" very similar, although the 17" is very slightly lower (due to it being a projection crash). What would you do? I was thinking of trying to take back the 17" and changing it for an 18" version ... or perhaps changing to an A custom medium crash.

your 17" Projection is lower pitched than the 18" medium? thats very strange. everything about that cymbal says it should be higher pitched (Thicker, Smaller, A Customs are Brighter in general)

[quote]what do think of this cymbal steup?..

crashes - 18" and 19" AAX xplosions
ride - 20" HHX evolution
hats - AAX X-celerators[/quote]

lose the crashes and try the AAX Stage Crashes in 16" and 18"...those Xplosion crashes are way too fast and punchy to be used as your only crashes.

^I agree^ Also try an 18" Medium crash and an 18" medium-Thin Crash/18"AAX Stage crash

[QUOTE=poppinfresh]I need a ride to go with the rest of my cymbals. Right now i have paiste innovations highats, paiste 18 full and fast crashes, and a k custom 14 fast crash. My ride is an aa metal x, but it sounds so out of place. I was thinking of a paiste sig dry crisp ot a k or k custom. Which would fit better in there, and if you can recommend any other rides that would be nice to.[/QUOTE]

anyone???

i say try an HHX Stage Ride.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]your 17" Projection is lower pitched than the 18" medium? thats very strange. everything about that cymbal says it should be higher pitched (Thicker, Smaller, A Customs are Brighter in general)[/QUOTE]

Projection crashes are medium thin, so they're thinner than the A Medium Crash. I tend to find the A's brighter than the A Customs. Nonetheless I'm thinking of exchanging the 17" A Custom - what would be the best bet.

ahhh...i was under the influence that Projections were like Rock weights.

Have yous heard about the K Custom Hybrid Ride?.... i wanna try it!... maybe it's gonna be out at the next NAMM.

[QUOTE=Hyper Kid]Have yous heard about the K Custom Hybrid Ride?.... i wanna try it!... maybe it's gonna be out at the next NAMM.[/QUOTE]

Link?

Hey, i need new cymbols. I play rock but not hard rock. I have about $110 to spend. If you have any suggestions, i would appreciate it.

Sabian Pro Performance Pack. Best package for the money.

[QUOTE=Hyper Kid]Have yous heard about the K Custom Hybrid Ride?.... i wanna try it!... maybe it's gonna be out at the next NAMM.[/QUOTE]
uh theres the hybrid ride. It was developed with akira jimbo. If you want to know anything else just ask. Its basically the k custom ride and the pre aged light ride put toghether.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/poppinfresh407/kcustomhybrid1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/poppinfresh407/kcustomhybrid2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/poppinfresh407/kcustomhybrid3.jpg[/IMG]

yeh there's some of the pics.

Dam that is one hot piece of metal.

Wow, that is hot.

Wow! I couldn't find it on the Zildjian site.

CrAsH & RiDe
 

All this Crash and Ride jibber...I'M LOVIN IT! :thumb:

Anyway...I just advanced out of my ZBT's :evil: To some A CUSTOMS...I started witha 18" A CUSTOM crash...and I love it. Then I added a slightly different sound to it by getting the 17" PROJECTION A CUSTOM...

I liked it in the store and it had a different decay. But now I am wondering if I should move that Projection over and add one more cymbal such as another 18" A CUSTOM or maybe a 19".

What would be your take on keeping the two main crashes identical or adding that third crash resulting in three slightly different ones/sounds...?

THOUGHTS PLEASE!

I play on a 5 pieces LUDWIG CS CUSTOM BIRCH w/ a 22" Bass....

Personally, when your forking over your own cash for cymbals, I wouldn't want to get the same exact cymbal when you could get a different one, but that's just me. I'd say get the Projection crash first before you make up your mind, you may find that you have to many bright cymbals and want a dark one, or whatever. My tastes can change very drastically.

[QUOTE=Plan B.]Personally, when your forking over your own cash for cymbals, I wouldn't want to get the same exact cymbal when you could get a different one, but that's just me. I'd say get the Projection crash first before you make up your mind, you may find that you have to many bright cymbals and want a dark one, or whatever. My tastes can change very drastically.[/QUOTE]

I did get the Projection crash.....I am now considering adding one more....BUT WHAT?

Hi, I posted many many pages back about a Sabian crash that i could use against my b8 16" crash and a 16" pro sonix china. I'd like it to have an element of trashiness. i play rock and punk/funk. for any other info on my kit theres sum stuff about it in a post called 'MY KIT!?'. I've seen the chad smith signature that sounds amazing but i think it might cost a bomd...any body had any experience or know anything about prices? I'm in england btw

:wave: Thanks :wave:

well, your sonix china should give you some trash....it IS a china after all.....i say go for another crash. maybe an 18" AA Medium or Medium-thin?

[QUOTE=ZOFO77]I did get the Projection crash.....I am now considering adding one more....BUT WHAT?[/QUOTE]


Oh, you're right. Sorry I miss-read it.

I don't see why adding another big crash like a 19" A Custom would be bad.