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MaidenMisfit 07-24-2004 02:40 AM

Thats a great list man. Nice job.

Urgel 07-24-2004 03:35 AM

I hate to say it but..... i dont know 80% of the bands all you guys named =P

(Btw could anyone make a tab of Iron Maiden:Age of innocence?)

RivFader 07-24-2004 04:06 AM

i found out that the shortest grind metal song ever made is You Suffer by napalm death .just telling anyone that didn't know that.it's 3 seconds long.
BTW, where can we put Finntroll cus i 've read in lot's of sites it's Black Metal/Folk/Finnish Hommpa...so what is it?

Kreator 07-24-2004 06:06 AM

everyone knows that... finntroll are humpa metal.


i think i wrote it wrong... someone correct me..

ILikeChickens 07-24-2004 06:47 AM

[QUOTE=epifreak2002]What about hardcore? Or is that considered closer to punk? I only ask because I haven't heard alot of it, and what I have heard hasn't impressed me that much. It feels like death metal-esque vocals pasted over punk guitar, which to me, is the worst of two genres. I'm probably wrong, so if someone could post a good definition of it, that'd be great.[/QUOTE] hxc is a mix of punk and metal, but is more punk than metal :D

Bartender 07-24-2004 06:47 AM

[QUOTE=RivFader]i found out that the shortest grind metal song ever made is You Suffer by napalm death .just telling anyone that didn't know that.it's 3 seconds long.[/QUOTE]

The actual song is just under a second, I think, then there's 3 seconds of silence to distinguish it from the next track. Anyway, I'm pretty sure Anal Cunt's 5674 Song EP (wrong numbers, I know) will have some shorter ones on.

TheMadHatter666 07-24-2004 02:29 PM

Great list man. On a different note, for all the people that reply'd trashing nu-metal, you are very ignorant. As you can probley tell i am a big mudvayne fan. Im not a nu-metal head, i also like bands like Metallica and Slayer. If mudvayne is classifyed as nu-metal, then i like a nu-metal band. I also like traditional Metal bands, and whatever other bands i like that i dont know there spicific type of Metal band they are.

omicron458 07-25-2004 09:16 AM

what about power metal i wanna know about power metal

Bulldogabel 07-25-2004 11:36 AM

I Want To Know About Viking Metal.

Kreator 07-25-2004 01:02 PM

power metal should be there. you just have to find it

zyxon 07-26-2004 04:17 AM

are songs like:
4 whom the bell tolls
sad but true
minus human

doom metal?
I really like those songs and they're a bit slower and chunkier

Jondur 07-26-2004 04:24 AM

Doom metal:

[url]http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7567/sounds.html[/url]

zyxon 07-26-2004 04:39 AM

[QUOTE=Jondur]Doom metal:

[url]http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7567/sounds.html[/url][/QUOTE]

cheers dude :thumb:

$yk0_H 07-26-2004 06:35 AM

[QUOTE=omicron458]what about power metal i wanna know about power metal[/QUOTE]
listen to:

Hammerfall
Helloween
Stratovarius
Dream Evil
Lost Horizon (although they claim to play True metal, it's clearly power!)
Blind Guardian
Sonata Arctica
Rhapsody
Luca Turilli
Persuader
Dragonforce

In no particular order, those are some of my favourite power metal bands.

Power metal is highly melodic and often has folk influences. The lyrics can be mythological (kings, dragons, heroes etc.). It's concentrated around a fast guitar riff, often accompanied by keyboards, and 80% of the time, fast double-bass drumming. Vocals are clean and high-pitched screams are abundant. Some bands like to 'dress up' for gigs.

My opinion: extremely corny (in the 'run-around-the-forest-with-a-cardboard-sword' way), but once you get past that, the music can be impressive and very enjoyable.

One exception to the cornyness is Sonata Arctica, whose lyrics are more love-themed (and the singer has an inch-thick finnish accent, so 'time' becomes 'daim' etc. :p ). Rhapsody are by far the corniest power metal band. Dragonforce are worth checking out, just for the extremely fast riffing over blast-beat drumming. I could go on.

PS. this was written with a fairly bad hangover, so please excuse any factual errors, typos, misconceptions etc. etc. :thumb:

IonicBondsMusic 07-26-2004 06:56 PM

[opinion]who gives a **** it all sucks anyway[/opinion]

RivFader 07-27-2004 01:24 AM

blind guardian is power metal?all of the song are acoustic and real good at the beginning and in the middle it's really soft metal.now Hammerfall play true power metal but not blind guardian unless someone can tell me what are the band's heaviest song...

Kreator 07-27-2004 01:33 AM

the old stuff of blind guardian is power metal

$yk0_H 07-27-2004 03:27 AM

blind guardian are more or less credited for starting power metal along with helloween. so there.

MusicMan² 07-27-2004 10:49 AM

[QUOTE=LegionsofMarduk]At the request of the mods, I'm making this thread to get stickied. Seeing as how there are numerous threads asking "What's the difference between genre X and genre Y?", hopefully this will curb some of those. NOTE: This is a very general guideline and not a definitive carved in stone definition. While I may put a band in with one genre, that doesn't mean that they might not fit into more than one sub-genre. I think most people here know my main area of interest is death and black metal so if you disagree with some of my opinions or band lists...fine.

[U]Traditional heavy Metal[/U]
This is kind of a "catch all". There are plenty of sub-genres, but there are lots of bands that don't fit any sub-genre and can't really be called anything except "heavy metal". This can be basically anything from the old school British heavy metal invation to the newer stuff coming out today (not to be confused with nu-metal). This is what most people think of when they hear "Power metal" or such terms. Lots of different styles can be considered traditional heavy metal. Some bands: Iron Maiden, Judas Preist, Iced Earth, Godsmack, Manowar, Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall etc etc etc etc.

[U]Thrash metal[/U]
Thrash really started to come into play in the early 1980's. It was in one way, an answer to the more popular "hair metal" bands of the time. Thrash grew out of older metal such as Black Sabbath combined with chunkier riffs, speed, agrresive vocals, and even some punk. Thrash metal is concentrated more heavily on speed and aggression than it's predacessors. Key bands: Metallica (old stuff), Slayer, Anthrax, Kreator, Sodom, Megadeth, Exodus, Overkill, Nuclear Assault, Sabbat (UK), Darkane etc etc.

[U]Doom Metal[/U]
Where thrash metal concentrates on being fast and aggressive, doom concentrates on being slower, lower and groovier. Many consider Black Sabbath to be the fathers of doom. Typically the music is slow and heavy. Guitars are tuned down and the vocals are usually clean, although growls do slip in on occasion. Also, while death and black metal are generally more aggressive lyrically, doom metal is very meloncholic, depressive and gives an extremly dark vibe. The music can range quite a bit from the extremely slloooooow all clean vocals, to the faster (but still relatively slow) doom/death bands. Check out [url]http://www.doom-metal.com[/url] for some good information and a pretty large list of bands. Key bands: Candlemass, St. Vitus, Unsilence, My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Paradise Lost etc etc.

[U]Death Metal[/U]
Death metal is the opposite end of the spectrum from doom metal. There are a few different schools of death metal. Generally speaking though, the music is fast, aggressive, low. The bass line is usually more pronounced than in other metal sub-genres. The vocal style is trademark to death metal. Usually vocals are growled or grunted. Blast beat drums are very prevalent. The most common misconception is that death metal is all about death and gore and killing and the likes. This is most certainly not the case. While many bands do sing about this type of thing, there are tons of great bands that do not limit themselves to lyrics like that. Lyrics can range to include religion, spirituality, fantasy and beyond. The music can range from the very aggressive and brutal (Aborted, Iniquity, Suffocation) to the more melodic (Ebony Tears, At The Gates) to the very technical (Atheist, Cynic). Key bands: Lykathea Aflame, Mithras, Morbid Angel, Behemoth (older stuff was black metal), Opeth, Immolation, Blood Red Throne, Entombed, Unleashed, Sinners Bleed.

[U]Melodic death metal[/U]
An obvious sub-genre to death metal, it's becoming popular enough that I think it deserves it's own little section. Basically, it incorporates more melody. What it lacks in brutallity, it more than makes up for in melodic grooves. The vocals are typically not as harsh, there may or may not be as many blast beats. Key Bands: At The Gates, In Flames, Ebony Tears, Carcass (Heartwork mainly), Aeternus, Amon Amarth, Kalmah, Norther.

[U]Black Metal[/U]
My own personaly favorite and particular area of expertise. Black metal and death metal are quite closely related. While death is focused on the shear brutallity, black metal is focused more on creating atmosphere. The music is typically higher pitched with less of a bass line. Some bands incorporate the use of keyboards or synthesizers. The production is quite often pretty bad giving it a raw or "trOO necro" quality. Tremelo picking abounds, blast beats are not as prevalent as in death metal but are still there quite often. The vocals are generally high pitched shreiked or screamed. The music can range from the "trOO necro" bands (Darkthrone) to the more melodic (Naglfar) to the very sophisticated orchestral atmospheric (Arcturus). A common misconception about black metal is that all the bands are Satanist and sing about Satan. While many bands are Satanic or anti-christian (note the distinct difference), that is not the case with all black metal bands. Lyrics can range from Satanic to fantasy to witchcraft to just about anything. Many black metal bands are very paganistic in ideology and see the christian church as an intruder in their native lands, leading to the very deep seeded hatred for christianity. Unfortunately, black metal also has a sub-genre known as NSBM. National Socialist Black Metal. While I do listen to quite a few of those bands because I like the music, lyrically many black metal bands are very racist against not only Blacks or Jews, but anyone of non-aryan decent. Key bands: Burzum, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Nargaroth, Emperor, Bathory, Immortal, Beherit, Graveland, Gorgoroth, Moonblood, Samael.

[U]Progressive metal[/U]
A newer genre (relatively speaking), prog metal incorporates the general aggression of heavy metal with the progressive rock sound of the late 70's. Generally speaking, the music has lots of different aspects including key and time changes, unique riffing and such. The level of musicianship is typically extremly high. Dream Theater is by far the most popular band in this genre. The music is generally quite technical. Key Bands: Dream Theater, Queensryche, Spiral Architect, Spastic Ink, Aghora, Gordian Knot, Racer X.

[U]Nu-metal[/U]
Nu-metal is the newest craze to hit mainstream rock radio. Without trying to bash it too much, generally speaking the music structure is very simplistic. Lyrics cover subjects that are close to todays teens (depression, abuse, drugs etc). There are very few guitar solos and the one's that are there are typically very simple and short. Vocals can range from the more metal influenced to a fusion of metal and rap. Guitars are often downtuned or drop tuned. This genre is generally not very popular among listeners of other metal music, but it is the newest craze and therefore very promoted and heavily played on the radio. Bands: Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Linkin Park, Disturbed.


Again...this is NOT a definitive list. It not by any stretch of the imagination complete. I'm sure if we really wanted to we could come up with a good 20 or so more sub-genres. It is meant as a [i]general[/i] guideline for the noob who's just getting into metal that otherwise would have posted a "What's the difference" thread. Feel free to agree or disagree. With any genre, there are bands that cross over and blur the lines. Your best bet if you're new to any genre of metal is to go out find a list of bands in the genre you're interested in. Download a couple songs from a bunch of different bands and then make your own distinctions.[/QUOTE] There just a kind of metal you forgot, Speed Metal ; I can't tell you more than its the kind that metallica use, not thrash metal :thumb:

gh0s7drummerr 07-27-2004 01:28 PM

someone explain to me wut exactly is nu-metal and bands would be classifed nu-metal

gh0s7drummerr 07-27-2004 01:28 PM

ehh nvm just saw a reply....

MaleVolenT 07-27-2004 03:05 PM

There are tonnes of other genres.. There are the better known ones I could name some other genres NWOBHM, doom, gothic, metalcore, hardcore, just a few others this list was very good, Just I dont like how you all bash new metal..I mean I only like LP, SOAD and Slipknot, but I think these bands are quite good, simplistic yes, but I like the way it sounds, but hey I mean the drumming in the Berzerker is simplistic but it sounds good anyways Good list Legion

Silenius 07-27-2004 03:16 PM

Nu metal is stuff like slipknot, system, all the mainstream metal that is hated.

listen2korn666 07-27-2004 05:11 PM

Metal is cool
 
[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]Nu metal is stuff like slipknot, system, all the mainstream metal that is hated.[/QUOTE]
Do y'all think that korn is metal???? cause i know some pple who dont and some who do and i donno i think they are but what do u pple think???? :confused: :confused:

Kafkastolemyslippers 07-27-2004 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=listen2korn666]Do y'all think that korn is metal???? cause i know some pple who dont and some who do and i donno i think they are but what do u pple think???? :confused: :confused:[/QUOTE]

Korn is nu-metal, to me at least. They helped start the whole thing, though most of the bands to follow were quite different.

shanks 07-27-2004 08:18 PM

Omg
 
[QUOTE=epifreak2002]^You just described punk.[/QUOTE]

Look. People can describe anything and mean it for one thing, and people take it another way. Accept it.
:D
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=Red]ciao[/COLOR][/FONT]

shanks 07-27-2004 08:25 PM

Ok. That was a great analysis on that, but why bother? People complained before, so you wrote that, and now your just going to get bugged more on other peoples opinions. So you're in for the long haul

blackmetal330 07-27-2004 08:58 PM

is old man's child melodic death or black metal?? ive been trying to figure that out for forever! no one can give a definite answer awesome list

lime toast 07-27-2004 09:15 PM

i love old mans child

Sparky Van Dam 07-28-2004 08:44 AM

I love all the different genre definitions of metal.

Once you get into sub-sub-genres of sub-genres, it gets pretty fascinating. I try to get into new genres all the time to see what they're like.

Great work on the definitions, they're helpful and pretty **** accurate. :)


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