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nobodyblossomsforever 06-24-2006 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]This girl was dating an 18 year old when she was 13, am I right? Or is this just online?[/QUOTE]

Yea, that's the grounds of it all. The bad thing is he's a 5 year senior. He should be a sophomore in college, even though he isn't even in college yet. He's gonna be in the army I think.

What does this have to do with not calling her though?

FunkyMunky 06-24-2006 09:52 PM

what do you people think about girls that date guys 2-3 years older then them and guys that date girls 2-3 years older then them

Chaindrive 06-24-2006 09:53 PM

It has to do with her having all that attention from someone 5 years her senior. Was that online or IRL?

Chaindrive 06-24-2006 09:54 PM

[QUOTE=FunkyMunky]what do you people think about girls that date guys 2-3 years older then them and guys that date girls 2-3 years older then them[/QUOTE]

I think it's fine, actually (likes 'em a little younger).

Jom 06-24-2006 09:57 PM

[QUOTE=FunkyMunky]what do you people think about girls that date guys 2-3 years older then them and guys that date girls 2-3 years older then them[/QUOTE]

Well, it certainly depends, but the older you get, the less awkward it is.

For example, it's kind of weird if you're a junior in high school and dating an eighth grader, but it's less weird if you're a junior at university and dating a senior in high school.

Basically, 2-3 years doesn't matter. I have noticed a trend that older dudes get younger girls (seniors dating sophomores, that sort of thing). I don't know if it's the same where you are, but that's just my take on it.

[quote=Kimmie]I think it's fine, actually (likes 'em a lot younger).[/quote]

Cradle robber!

Chaindrive 06-24-2006 10:13 PM

Great (nice edit). Not alot, just a little. Like 5-10 years or so.

:D

Jo Shoe Wah 06-25-2006 03:23 AM

So uh, why the hell..........do people yell and scream.

My mum can not for the life of her settle something calmly without acting like a 2 year old. 10 minutes ago she got the s[SIZE="2"]hits[/SIZE] for some reason and goes upstairs, she wanted the computer to check something and i said.. "ok, what are you doing"................silence.........."are you going to use it or not?"....

her: F[SIZE="2"]UCK[/SIZE] THE BOTH OF YOU (me and brother)

And she storms upstairs, so i go up and ask her if she wants the computer or not, and she proceeds to yell and scream about having to explain herself or something. I told her to stop yelling and that it was a small misunderstanding and i didn't mean to upset her for whatever reason she was upset :confused: , that there was no need to escalate things with screaming.

But no, it seems she enjoys yelling, she comes downstairs uses the computer, swearing and carrying on the whole time. Then OH...suddenly decides shell empty the washing basket...instead of doing it all though...she puts everything except for my jumper and school pants into the basket and throws them at the floor (because it accomplishes something you see..:rolleyes: )

Now, i don't really see the point of yelling and screaming, i mean to me its whole purpose is to get the other person to listen to you and make yourself heard, but when im standing there TRYING to talk civily, and she screams anyway...to me that just says drama queen. Now for the last 10 minutes she has been storming around the place loudly, im sure this isn't a convenience thing and walking normally would probably be less tiring and easier, she's been throwing crap everywhere in an effort to get me to clean up a mess that wasn't there in the first place, loudly throwing a dish into the sink instead of putting it down. AND THEN BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHE CAN'T EAT THE DINNER WHICH SHE NOW REFUSES TO COOK US! Instead she resorts to last nights tune bake, which incidently my brother ate some of it for lunch today. So now she is the martyr who can't have any dinner and is being done wrong by, who now must refuge in her room away from her bastard sons because they treat her so poorly.

Anywho, what are other peoples views on yelling, screaming, swearing, doing ordinary tasks in a violent manner etc. Do you deem them neccessary?
And for that matter does anyone else here deal with people like this who carry on like everyone treats them like s[SIZE="2"]hit[/SIZE], but in reality they just enjoy the attention people give them, and seem to do whatever they can to justify screaming?

I wish she'd act like an adult and just speak to me normally...

AmericanWeiner 06-25-2006 08:00 AM

Hey that sounds familiar

nobodyblossomsforever 06-25-2006 08:00 AM

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]It has to do with her having all that attention from someone 5 years her senior. Was that online or IRL?[/QUOTE]

Was what online or IRL?

Yppolitia 06-25-2006 08:27 AM

[QUOTE=Jo Shoe Wah]So uh, why the hell..........do people yell and scream.

My mum can not for the life of her settle something calmly without acting like a 2 year old. 10 minutes ago she got the s[SIZE="2"]hits[/SIZE] for some reason and goes upstairs, she wanted the computer to check something and i said.. "ok, what are you doing"................silence.........."are you going to use it or not?"....

her: F[SIZE="2"]UCK[/SIZE] THE BOTH OF YOU (me and brother)

And she storms upstairs, so i go up and ask her if she wants the computer or not, and she proceeds to yell and scream about having to explain herself or something. I told her to stop yelling and that it was a small misunderstanding and i didn't mean to upset her for whatever reason she was upset :confused: , that there was no need to escalate things with screaming.

But no, it seems she enjoys yelling, she comes downstairs uses the computer, swearing and carrying on the whole time. Then OH...suddenly decides shell empty the washing basket...instead of doing it all though...she puts everything except for my jumper and school pants into the basket and throws them at the floor (because it accomplishes something you see..:rolleyes: )

Now, i don't really see the point of yelling and screaming, i mean to me its whole purpose is to get the other person to listen to you and make yourself heard, but when im standing there TRYING to talk civily, and she screams anyway...to me that just says drama queen. Now for the last 10 minutes she has been storming around the place loudly, im sure this isn't a convenience thing and walking normally would probably be less tiring and easier, she's been throwing crap everywhere in an effort to get me to clean up a mess that wasn't there in the first place, loudly throwing a dish into the sink instead of putting it down. AND THEN BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHE CAN'T EAT THE DINNER WHICH SHE NOW REFUSES TO COOK US! Instead she resorts to last nights tune bake, which incidently my brother ate some of it for lunch today. So now she is the martyr who can't have any dinner and is being done wrong by, who now must refuge in her room away from her bastard sons because they treat her so poorly.

Anywho, what are other peoples views on yelling, screaming, swearing, doing ordinary tasks in a violent manner etc. Do you deem them neccessary?
And for that matter does anyone else here deal with people like this who carry on like everyone treats them like s[SIZE="2"]hit[/SIZE], but in reality they just enjoy the attention people give them, and seem to do whatever they can to justify screaming?

I wish she'd act like an adult and just speak to me normally...[/QUOTE]

How long has this been going on for?

Maybe your mum has had something happen to her recently that has made her this way like some very bad news that has made her upset and have ot take her anger and/or frustration out on you and your brother?

FVG27 06-25-2006 09:22 AM

[QUOTE=Jo Shoe Wah]So uh, why the hell..........do people yell and scream.

My mum can not for the life of her settle something calmly without acting like a 2 year old. 10 minutes ago she got the s[SIZE="2"]hits[/SIZE] for some reason and goes upstairs, she wanted the computer to check something and i said.. "ok, what are you doing"................silence.........."are you going to use it or not?"....

her: F[SIZE="2"]UCK[/SIZE] THE BOTH OF YOU (me and brother)

And she storms upstairs, so i go up and ask her if she wants the computer or not, and she proceeds to yell and scream about having to explain herself or something. I told her to stop yelling and that it was a small misunderstanding and i didn't mean to upset her for whatever reason she was upset :confused: , that there was no need to escalate things with screaming.

But no, it seems she enjoys yelling, she comes downstairs uses the computer, swearing and carrying on the whole time. Then OH...suddenly decides shell empty the washing basket...instead of doing it all though...she puts everything except for my jumper and school pants into the basket and throws them at the floor (because it accomplishes something you see..:rolleyes: )

Now, i don't really see the point of yelling and screaming, i mean to me its whole purpose is to get the other person to listen to you and make yourself heard, but when im standing there TRYING to talk civily, and she screams anyway...to me that just says drama queen. Now for the last 10 minutes she has been storming around the place loudly, im sure this isn't a convenience thing and walking normally would probably be less tiring and easier, she's been throwing crap everywhere in an effort to get me to clean up a mess that wasn't there in the first place, loudly throwing a dish into the sink instead of putting it down. AND THEN BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHE CAN'T EAT THE DINNER WHICH SHE NOW REFUSES TO COOK US! Instead she resorts to last nights tune bake, which incidently my brother ate some of it for lunch today. So now she is the martyr who can't have any dinner and is being done wrong by, who now must refuge in her room away from her bastard sons because they treat her so poorly.

Anywho, what are other peoples views on yelling, screaming, swearing, doing ordinary tasks in a violent manner etc. Do you deem them neccessary?
And for that matter does anyone else here deal with people like this who carry on like everyone treats them like s[SIZE="2"]hit[/SIZE], but in reality they just enjoy the attention people give them, and seem to do whatever they can to justify screaming?

I wish she'd act like an adult and just speak to me normally...[/QUOTE]
I can relate, again lol (it is you who I keep having similar situations with right?). My mum can become totally irrational for no reason at all and start yelling and swearing at everyone. It's the same with all my family except for me because I don't swear. It really offends me when people yel and swear when arguing with me, because I [B]never[/B] swear at them- so I think it should be reciprocated.

My sister is the worse. She can't take any sort of criticism (sp?) so when I disagree with her on something, she goes nuts, calls me everything under the sun then storms off.

I don't understand - if I try talking to someone in a cool and clam manner- why they can't just be polite and do the same for me. It really maddens me.

I remember one time when I forgot to put my shoes in the shoe cupboard once- my mum went totally off her rocker, started yelling and swearing, stormed out the house and threatened to leave. I mean jeeeeze, chill.

purplefeet 06-25-2006 09:34 AM

My parents are both chillin but sometimes they get out of hand.

My dads been drinking more lately so him and my mom get into a fight yesterday and he packed up his stuff and left today. Im not too worried and I dont really care, only cause I know he'll be back in a few days. Not that this has ever happened before, but Im pretty sure he'll be coming back. Even if he doesnt, its all good. Im old enough now that disputes with my parents dont effect me anymore, its their life.

But for the most part, they 4 of us (my brother and parents) are super close and dont fight all that much. Me and my brother come and go as we please, but we still spend a lot of time with them.

RouteOne 06-25-2006 01:30 PM

[QUOTE=FunkyMunky]what do you people think about girls that date guys 2-3 years older then them and guys that date girls 2-3 years older then them[/QUOTE]
I think a 2-3 year age gap isn't anything to be bothered about. I'm 18 and my GF is 16.

FVG27 06-25-2006 01:42 PM

Aye 2-3 years is fine.

Towlie 06-25-2006 02:58 PM

In regards to the age gap thing, I think it would make the relationship a little harder because once you've graduated and your girl\boy friend is still in high school they might have a tendancy to look at others when you're not there, which could cause some trouble...But I'm not saying this always happens, I just sometimes look at certain things in a pessimistic perspective I guess...

nobodyblossomsforever 06-25-2006 03:00 PM

Okay, Sara asked me to call her around this time.

Kimmie is telling me NOT to call her, and I'm still trying to figure out why before I do so.

Chaindrive 06-25-2006 05:03 PM

I think that anyone who is 15 and goes out (and I still don't know what you mean by that) with a 20 year old has a screw loose. She needs to deal with that relationship first.

nobodyblossomsforever 06-25-2006 05:06 PM

I mean goes out, as in dates.

She wanted me to call her as a friend, I don't see how calling her will ruin anything.

Chaindrive 06-25-2006 05:08 PM

How does she go on dates with him if her mom won't let her see him?

nobodyblossomsforever 06-25-2006 05:10 PM

Well she hasn't in the past couple of months, so I see your point. How will calling her ruin anything though?

Chaindrive 06-25-2006 05:16 PM

As long as you understand you're calling her as just a friend, it should be okay. I just don't want you to get your hopes up that it will be more than that, until she deals with her situation.

Man, I still think 20 years old is way to old to be seeing a 15 year old.

Towlie 06-25-2006 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Man, I still think 20 years old is way to old to be seeing a 15 year old.[/QUOTE]

But what if they're in love with each other?

I'm just saying this because 20 year olds can't have sex with 15 year olds and 15 year olds can't go out clubbing or whatever because they can't drink so I dont see any other reason a 15 year old and a 20 year old would be together other than a loving connection.

ThePinkPanther 06-25-2006 05:29 PM

[QUOTE=Towlie]But what if they're in love with each other?

I'm just saying this because 20 year olds can't [B][I]legally[/I][/B] have sex with 15 year olds and 15 year olds can't go out clubbing or whatever because they can't drink so I dont see any other reason a 15 year old and a 20 year old would be together other than a loving connection.[/QUOTE]

fix'd

nobodyblossomsforever 06-25-2006 05:34 PM

Well they do love each other and he doens't treat her bad from what I know, but for the past month all she does is complain about him and their relationship and that it doesn't feel like they're together.

I've also learned not to get my hopes up and I'm not trying to. It's just weird because before me and her started talking to me, they had no problems in their relationship. Ever sense we started talking, now she goes on about how I'm her best friend ever, and she puts Mike down all the time now.

Chaindrive 06-25-2006 05:37 PM

[QUOTE=Towlie]But what if they're in love with each other?

I'm just saying this because 20 year olds can't have sex with 15 year olds and 15 year olds can't go out clubbing or whatever because they can't drink so I dont see any other reason a 15 year old and a 20 year old would be together other than a loving connection.[/QUOTE]

They started seeing each other when she was 13. And he was 18.

That's wrong on a whole bunch of levels.

nobodyblossomsforever 06-25-2006 05:38 PM

It's not even the age that bugs me. It's his lifestyle. He's a Satan worshipper, he drinks and smokes all the time, he has a criminal record, it isn't a pretty picture.

Chaindrive 06-25-2006 05:40 PM

Except for the Satan worshipping, it sounds like my life.

nobodyblossomsforever 06-25-2006 05:42 PM

You have a criminal record?

Chaindrive 06-25-2006 05:45 PM

Got a DUI about 6 years ago.

nobodyblossomsforever 06-25-2006 05:47 PM

Ah.

Well this guy hasn't been drunk driving. He has like a record for beating people up/toturing people by cutting them with knives and all that.


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