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Huber 06-04-2005 11:00 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]hey sliptallica do you play the intro to ticks and leeches with a tab? if so which one?[/QUOTE]

Never seen the tabs for it actually. My drum teacher had seen Danny play it live and helped me transcribe it.

Futuro 06-04-2005 11:02 PM

hmmmmmm.....i tried to trancribe it to paper but its not fitting in the bar of 7

Huber 06-04-2005 11:04 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]hmmmmmm.....i tried to trancribe it to paper but its not fitting in the bar of 7[/QUOTE]

I just looked at the tab they have here on MX and it looks kinda different. I play the intro as a 16th note accent pattern, if that helps. If I recall, mine fit into 7.

Rounder 06-04-2005 11:06 PM

[QUOTE=Sliptallica][url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347154[/url][/QUOTE]


hmm...well Matters a drummer and Im a guitar player and we can play The Grudge, Eulogy(minus the electronic beginning), or Pu****...I dont know if anyone out there could play a clean bassline to one of those songs. We could record our version and send it to whoever to put on his bassline. we would have the bass player send us a clean non-eq'd bassline and we could mix it on our gear and since Matter and I share a house it would make things pretty cool.

Futuro 06-04-2005 11:09 PM

[QUOTE=r0und3r]hmm...well Matters a drummer and Im a guitar player and we can play The Grudge, Eulogy(minus the electronic beginning), or Pu****...I dont know if anyone out there could play a clean bassline to one of those songs. We could record our version and send it to whoever to put on his bassline. we would have the bass player send us a clean non-eq'd bassline and we could mix it on our gear and since Matter and I share a house it would make things pretty cool.[/QUOTE]

Hey man ive heard you guys play tool stuff before on the website and it was amazing.

holy crap, i forgot about Matt, hes an amazing drummer, if he wants to do the cover(drum wise) i will humbly hand over my duties to Matt.

Moseswasbanned 06-04-2005 11:10 PM

Time to whore my new thread.

Hey everyone check out my Debussy Education Thread here:
[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=349024[/url]

realitybreach 06-04-2005 11:12 PM

I can understand what you guys are trying to do here. I have to say though that Tool isnt just about the lyrics, stop trying to analyse everything and just listen to the music. Keenan Maynard says so himself that if you just look at the lyrics your missing 3/4 of the music. I listen to Tool because I love how their music comes together like a symphony. I dont have to analyze the lyrics to see what music MEANS. Music is about emotion and Tool expresses emotion just like any other music but the difference is there is more talent behind Tool than any other band i have seen in quite a long time. So please just listen and stop trying to figure out what it all MEANS. Its music and nothing more, maybe if you twist it enough you can find some logic in how things go together. If Maynard wanted to express philosophy that he wanted you to find then he would have written a book.

Moseswasbanned 06-04-2005 11:15 PM

[QUOTE=realitybreach]I can understand what you guys are trying to do here. I have to say though that Tool isnt just about the lyrics, stop trying to analyse everything and just listen to the music. Keenan Maynard says so himself that if you just look at the lyrics your missing 3/4 of the music. I listen to Tool because I love how their music comes together like a symphony. I dont have to analyze the lyrics to see what music MEANS. Music is about emotion and Tool expresses emotion just like any other music but the difference is there is more talent behind Tool than any other band i have seen in quite a long time. So please just listen and stop trying to figure out what it all MEANS. Its music and nothing more, maybe if you twist it enough you can find some logic in how things go together. If Maynard wanted to express philosophy that he wanted you to find then he would have written a book.[/QUOTE]
How many pages of this did you actually read?

BlindWriting 06-04-2005 11:15 PM

[QUOTE=realitybreach]I can understand what you guys are trying to do here. I have to say though that Tool isnt just about the lyrics, stop trying to analyse everything and just listen to the music. Keenan Maynard says so himself that if you just look at the lyrics your missing 3/4 of the music. I listen to Tool because I love how their music comes together like a symphony. I dont have to analyze the lyrics to see what music MEANS. Music is about emotion and Tool expresses emotion just like any other music but the difference is there is more talent behind Tool than any other band i have seen in quite a long time. So please just listen and stop trying to figure out what it all MEANS. Its music and nothing more, maybe if you twist it enough you can find some logic in how things go together. If Maynard wanted to express philosophy that he wanted you to find then he would have written a book.[/QUOTE]
Look, I'll cut you some slack, because you probably just read the first two pages or so of this thread. Don't take things at face value.
And please leave.

Huber 06-04-2005 11:15 PM

Number 1: Where did that come from?

Number 2: No one ever said Tool was just about lyrics. If they did, kick em' in the nuts.

Huber 06-04-2005 11:16 PM

This is how I play it faith, and it sounds great to me:
[FONT=Courier New]
T1|-o-O-o-o-o-o-o-o-O-o-o-o---o|
FT|O-o-o-O---o-O-O-o-o-O-o---o-|
SD|--------O---------------oo--|
BD|o--o--o-o---o-o--o--o-------| [/FONT]

snares off btw

Blizzink 06-04-2005 11:17 PM

You must have read the first pages of this thread and posted that. Either way, though, it seems like you're saying any kind of lyrics discussion is pointless, but it's not. Like you said, it's just another part of the music, so some people would like to understand that part more in order to gain a better understanding for the whole picture.

Rounder 06-04-2005 11:39 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]Hey man ive heard you guys play tool stuff before on the website and it was amazing.

holy crap, i forgot about Matt, hes an amazing drummer, if he wants to do the cover(drum wise) i will humbly hand over my duties to Matt.[/QUOTE]


Wait wait wait.....i did not realize that it was one song. I thought anyone from the thread could post a song. We would never do something like that, take the chance for somone to play a Tool song away from someone else. My bad, I did not understand the comp. :confused: sorry. If you need an extra guitarist, i'll gladly throw down a track for it, but im not gonna jump into the middle of this thing and butt other people out.

Futuro 06-04-2005 11:49 PM

[QUOTE=r0und3r]Wait wait wait.....i did not realize that it was one song. I thought anyone from the thread could post a song. We would never do something like that, take the chance for somone to play a Tool song away from someone else. My bad, I did not understand the comp. :confused: sorry. If you need an extra guitarist, i'll gladly throw down a track for it, but im not gonna jump into the middle of this thing and butt other people out.[/QUOTE]

well his stuff would turn out easily like 10 times better than mine(sound wise, playing ability, and his Time)

But then again i might not have understood the rules, so maybe we can do more than one track. if so that would be awsome :thumb:

XyleM 06-04-2005 11:52 PM

I think AJIG's idea about the Tool medley thing would be awesome, you could throw the simpler songs together into one track, and thus make it sound similar to one of their epic songs :D

Moseswasbanned 06-04-2005 11:54 PM

I wouldn't say just do one track. Let's make a few and pick the best one...... if that's what the rules are.

Huber 06-04-2005 11:55 PM

[QUOTE=XyleM]I think AJIG's idea about the Tool medley thing would be awesome, you could throw the simpler songs together into one track, and thus make it sound similar to one of their epic songs :D[/QUOTE]

I like this idea.

Futuro 06-04-2005 11:56 PM

hmm makes sense moses

Kage 06-04-2005 11:57 PM

I don't like the medley idea, becuase it will just complicate things. We can't even get it together as it is.

Moseswasbanned 06-04-2005 11:59 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]I don't like the medley idea, becuase it will just complicate things. We can't even get it together as it is.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what I was thinking, plus the atmosphere will be..... I don't know, cluttered?

Huber 06-05-2005 12:01 AM

[QUOTE=Kage]I don't like the medley idea, becuase it will just complicate things. We can't even get it together as it is.[/QUOTE]

True. Probably should take it one step at a time.

XyleM 06-05-2005 12:03 AM

AJIG was saying that he did it sometimes, so i'm sure he could explain some ideas...

Moseswasbanned 06-05-2005 12:03 AM

Also Kage(and anybodyelse in here), I hope you check out my Debussy thread.

Moseswasbanned 06-05-2005 12:10 AM

Holy crap there it goes again........ I post and the thread dies.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-05-2005 12:17 AM

Does JoZ have a bassline recorded for Eulogy? I'm talking to 307 and he would gladly do the guitar for it. I think it would turn out great. [size=1]it feels like I'm the only one, though [/size]

Ok. I've talked to over 5 guitarists about doing Parabol/a and they all say no for the same reason. I'm not going to beat a dead horse and say 'drop b is too hard,' but I think we've put enough energy(lol, it's the internet) into trying to get a guitarist for Parabol/a. Like I said before, there are tracks that are just as good that require less guitar strain.

Moseswasbanned 06-05-2005 12:19 AM

I say Ticks and Leeches if we gave up on Parabol/a. I don't want to sing for Eulogy for it will sound like ****.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-05-2005 12:22 AM

[U]Ticks & Leeches[/U]
Vox-Moses
Guitar-Me, for now
Bass-JoZ, I assume
Drums-Faith+1 or Sliptallica
[U]
Eulogy[/U]
Vox-Kage, if he's willing
Guitar-307435342634632466236236 aka Jenny
Bass-duh
Drums-Faith+1 or Sliptallica or whoever else


Sound good?


Or..

[u]Lateralus[/u]
Vox-Moses
Guitar-Kage
Bass-obvious, again
Drums- [b]Faith+1, naturally[/b]

Moseswasbanned 06-05-2005 12:24 AM

Problem is with Joz we haven't heard anything from him in ages. I don't think he did a Ticks and Leeches one.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-05-2005 12:25 AM

I'm forgetting a couple that are well into production

[U]Ænema[/U]
Vox-Moses, I assume
Guitar-Clearvision
Bass-JoZ
Drums-need one

[u]Stinkfist[/u]
same lineup


I've actually talked to JoZ 2 times in the last three days. He just hasn't came here. I'll get him in here tomorrow or something.

Moseswasbanned 06-05-2005 12:26 AM

[QUOTE=faith+1]i would really like to do lateralus.....by my vote prolly sucks:lol:[/QUOTE]
Jake, look!!!^^^^^^

Yeah, I'll do vox for anything besides Eulogy and Pu****, because I don't want to butcher amazing vocal performances like those. Well unless, of course Kage butchers it worse..... :D just kidding.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-05-2005 12:28 AM

At what... :shifty:


[size=1]fix'd[/size]

Moseswasbanned 06-05-2005 12:29 AM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]At what... :shifty:[/QUOTE]
I don't actually know.... I mean it was there before?@?!?!?!?

Moseswasbanned 06-05-2005 12:33 AM

Who's a drummer that can do Aenima?

Futuro 06-05-2005 12:34 AM

hey Round3r who i was talking to earlier has a 7 string john petrucci model guitar ....so there your parabola man..

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-05-2005 12:35 AM

I don't mean to be a spamface, but when does your other account get unbanned? Ever? or was it a 3 day band or something to that effect?

Speaking of effects, I was looking at the amps that my Digitech is modeled after. There are 2 Mesa Boogie amp settings. Both are used at some time by Jones. :cool: Oh yeah.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-05-2005 12:36 AM

I don't mean to be a spamface, but when does your other account get unbanned? Ever? or was it a 3 day band or something to that effect?

Speaking of effects, I was looking at the amps that my Digitech is modeled after. There are 2 Mesa Boogie amp settings. Both are used at some time by Jones. :cool: Oh yeah.

Moseswasbanned 06-05-2005 12:44 AM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I don't mean to be a spamface, but when does your other account get unbanned? Ever? or was it a 3 day band or something to that effect?[/QUOTE]
I have no clue.

Ha, you said you didn't mean to be a spamface but you managed to double post.

Futuro 06-05-2005 12:45 AM

[QUOTE=Moseswasbanned]Who's a drummer that can do Aenima?[/QUOTE]

one of the songs i havent finished learning from them.... i can improv it real nice though thats what i did when i was in my last band.

i would love to do lateralus expect that up by tommorow evening, everybody else can pull it off right?

Moseswasbanned 06-05-2005 12:53 AM

I need to figure out what effects are needed to make it sound like recording quality vocals. Also Faith+1 record to the album, I want to be able to sing with Maynard.

dUSK 06-05-2005 12:53 AM

Although I'm not participating in the whole cover thing. I'm going to say I'd like to see you guys do Lateralus. I think it's probably going to give you the best shot at winning, and it's an amazing song anyway.


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