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bobby__johnny 06-22-2008 12:13 AM

Check out some HHX imo. they'll fit in nice.

ant_182 06-22-2008 05:29 AM

So if the ZHT's dont cut it, I'm left with 12" Recording hats £156 or so, 12" Remix hats £165 or more [ebay], 10" Recording Hats £130 or more [ebay]. or get 2 splashes. What would be a good combo? Z Custom Bottom and A/A Custom on top?

oliv_da_skinmasher 06-24-2008 06:14 AM

I'd get some Recording hats. Either size tbh.

Well actually i'd say get 12" Twenty hats tbh lol

ant_182 06-24-2008 12:21 PM

I'm not sure if 10" is too small or 12" too big... I just won the snare too, so thats another 170 I dont have lol

oliv_da_skinmasher 06-24-2008 04:14 PM

Lol. I'd get 12" if i were u. Fuller sound

ant_182 06-25-2008 05:48 AM

If I get more money I'll get them, just ran out!

Ryder99 06-26-2008 11:12 AM

Hi im looking for an all round china cymbal not too expensive under £100. Something i can use for hardcore drumming

bobby__johnny 06-26-2008 11:21 AM

Wuhan. you can get a few for that price

theflame85 07-02-2008 08:53 AM

Have a look for an 18" Zildjian Oriental china trash. If they're more than 100pounds, check out some used ones. Definatly worth the cash though if your wallet can stretch that far. They've got a great hard crash, great for accents, and would definatly cut through in a hardcore style of music.

an_original_name 07-08-2008 02:16 PM

so I'm trying to identify a cymbal. I saw it in my local store 3 or 4 years ago. The logo said it was a mini ride (probably somewhere between 14" and 16") with some kind of pearlescent effect on it. I'm pretty sure it was a Paiste, and it could have been a flat ride, but i really can't remember. I googled it and came up with nothing so i thought I'd try here.

Any help is appreciated.

T

bobby__johnny 07-08-2008 07:14 PM

VFX mini ride. sabian sig for Tony Vederosa?

an_original_name 07-09-2008 12:55 AM

^^^ could be. i googled VFX mini ride and came up with this [url]http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=447005[/url]

there's a picture about half way down. They look kinda similar except the hammering pattern was much less noticeable on the one i saw.

T

bobby__johnny 07-09-2008 06:00 AM

true, but those are the hats pictured. not the mini-ride.

i wouldnt mind finding a pair of Distortion Hats....just to say i have em :p

an_original_name 07-09-2008 06:30 AM

^^^ ahh, my bad. it could well be the vfx mini ride then. i cant even remember how it sounded, only that i loved it to bits haha.

T

Aaron 07-14-2008 06:05 AM

[quote=bobby__johnny;16469830]true, but those are the hats pictured. not the mini-ride.

i wouldnt mind finding a pair of Distortion Hats....just to say i have em :p[/quote]
There's a pair that float around on ebay-Australia every few months. If you're serio I'll keep an eye out for you.

Aaron 07-14-2008 06:09 AM

[quote=ant_182;16429168]So if the ZHT's dont cut it, I'm left with 12" Recording hats £156 or so, 12" Remix hats £165 or more [ebay], 10" Recording Hats £130 or more [ebay]. or get 2 splashes. What would be a good combo? Z Custom Bottom and A/A Custom on top?[/quote]
Pair of 10" A Splashes goes well.

raz0r 07-14-2008 08:02 AM

[QUOTE=Aaron;16485097]There's a pair that float around on ebay-Australia every few months. If you're serio I'll keep an eye out for you.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/12-sabian-signature-vfx-distortion-top-hihat-cymbal_W0QQitemZ130238170551QQihZ003QQcategoryZ10174QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Sabian-VFX-Distortion-12-Hats-Blue-Drum-Cymbal_W0QQitemZ140249403136QQihZ004QQcategoryZ10174QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

Saw those on ebay US

Aaron 07-17-2008 07:32 AM

Cheers bra!

Chrysostom 07-28-2008 09:29 AM

What are some good hats for heavy rock (think Sparta, Hell is For Heroes etc, real heavy drop D stuff)? Preferably Sabian. And I mean dark sounding hats, not bright - really not a fan of bright wherever I can avoid it. I've seen some 14" HHX Power Hats on the Sabian website. They any good?

bobby__johnny 07-28-2008 09:32 AM

14" HHX Groove hats :thumb:

mind you my 14" AAX Studio hats are fairly dark sounding. they still cut though

fishbulb 07-28-2008 02:09 PM

I like my Vault hats. They have a dark washy closed sound but are bright when opened up.

Drum Phil 07-28-2008 03:41 PM

HHX power hats are fap worthy. Buy them or i'll beat you to death.

Chrysostom 07-29-2008 11:11 AM

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;16529476]HHX power hats are fap worthy. Buy them or i'll beat you to death.[/QUOTE]

Ha ha. Aye aye Captain. Won't be for a looooong time though. I don't have that level of disposable cash.

ant_182 07-29-2008 11:29 AM

[QUOTE=Aaron;16485099]Pair of 10" A Splashes goes well.[/QUOTE]

Yeh, but what combination would work well? I was thinking Z Custom on the bottom and a lighter cymbal on top

bobby__johnny 08-01-2008 07:49 AM

i'm thinking 10" A bottom, 10" K Top.

Forlorn Hope 08-13-2008 12:51 AM

This same request has probably been made, but I don't feel like searching through 300 pages of this.

I'm looking for a couple of crashes to replace my lame B8 Pro's. I like a bright (but not too harsh) sound with a nice fast attack and fairly quick-medium decay. Something suitable for in the studio and live. I'm looking to spend between $150-250 US on each cymbal. I'm in a metal/hardcore band, so it will have to fit that style of music. I'd like a 16 and 18 inch, or maybe a 14? The 18 has to have a nice bell too.

I'm also looking at rides. I like a bright ping with not too much wash underneath. Something very cutting with a nice bell of course. Same price range as above.

Thanks ahead of time.

Panopticon 08-13-2008 01:11 AM

[quote=Chrysostom;16528673]What are some good hats for heavy rock (think Sparta, Hell is For Heroes etc, real heavy drop D stuff)? Preferably Sabian. And I mean dark sounding hats, not bright - really not a fan of bright wherever I can avoid it. I've seen some 14" HHX Power Hats on the Sabian website. They any good?[/quote]

14" AA Flat hats.

Tim 08-13-2008 01:20 AM

[QUOTE=Forlorn Hope;16582115]
I'm looking for a couple of crashes to replace my lame B8 Pro's. I like a bright (but not too harsh) sound with a nice fast attack and fairly quick-medium decay. Something suitable for in the studio and live. I'm looking to spend between $150-250 US on each cymbal. I'm in a metal/hardcore band, so it will have to fit that style of music. I'd like a 16 and 18 inch, or maybe a 14? The 18 has to have a nice bell too.

I'm also looking at rides. I like a bright ping with not too much wash underneath. Something very cutting with a nice bell of course. Same price range as above.
[/QUOTE]

well if by nice bell you mean big i doubt you will find anything with quick decay. if your playing in a metal/hardcore band dont waste your time or money with a 14, your just going to beat the crap out of it trying to make it project when it just simply wont and then you end up putting too much abuse on it. I would recommend crashes that are medium-thin in 18' just because they will give you more projection, they wont have as much "decay" as a heavy crash. also when playing at faster speeds they are easier to open up. Thats actually a really good price range for crashes as well, around $200-$230 should get you up to 18's from Sabian AA or AAX as wel as Zildjian A and A customs. I own a 18inch AAX stage crash and I use it for multiple styles of music and i love it. It cuts, its soft when it needs to be, its not ridiculously heavy and its versatile.

As for rides i guess you could say im a bit stumped on a decision here.
I would suggest getting something with a fairly decent amount of wash(for loud music) because once you play live, if your in an unmic'd venue that ride wont sound very good, its going to sound very clanky and not very pingy. try looking into something maybe medium heavy, you get the cut from the cymbal but you also get a good tone out of it. AA medium heavy ride maybe?

Forlorn Hope 08-13-2008 01:26 AM

Thanks for the suggestions. What would you say the tonal differences are between the AA and AAX, as well as the A and A customs? There aren't very many music shops around here otherwise I would just go try them out.

Tim 08-13-2008 01:33 AM

well with AAX they are definately going to be more bright but also allow you to play them softer and still get a good sound out of them. with AA they are also bright although i dont think as much but they werent designed with the "auto focus" or whatever, which is the light and heavy playing. My experience with the AA medium thin crash was that it was just too much "decay" for me. they designed the bell to be bigger on that cymbal, even though its medium thin, to project more. wasnt really a fan of that one. though i do own an 18inch AA chinese and i love that thing to death. its trashy, loud, and it knows when to shut up.


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