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GurS 05-25-2005 11:14 AM

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Naah GCSE's. Do you think id take such a poxy subject for AS?[/QUOTE]


guess not



(minor)

Bartender 05-25-2005 11:16 AM

[QUOTE=clearvision]Yeah...but what genre is it? :confused: [/QUOTE]

Any attempt to identify Mr Bungle's genre will probably result in :confused[font=verdana]:[/font] :)

I edited my post just after yours by the way, but probably too late for you to notice it, sorry.

GurS 05-25-2005 11:17 AM

I'm well pleased with a poem I wrote earlier today, took me a good 2 or so hours to write it. Anyone wanna read it?

munky_magik 05-25-2005 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=Gilmour]You mosdef need to check out Mr. Bungle - s/t[/QUOTE]
I knew you meant 'Most definietly' but it came out as Mos Def, and for that I shall have to hurt you. Sorry.

[quote]and am informed by my sister that Elephunk is worth owning.[/quote]
Is that a reliable source?

Kingofdudes 05-25-2005 11:20 AM

^o noes?!?!?!

Bartender 05-25-2005 11:21 AM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]
Is that a reliable source?[/QUOTE]

Well I left out "reliably" on purpose, but she has her moments, musically. She just doesn't do much to expand what she listens to.

Gurs - if you post it, we will read.

clearvision 05-25-2005 11:23 AM

Ah i see the edit...

I'm just looking for info really, 'cause i didi my usaul trick...get onto amazon and start listening to snippets but it seemed that his stuff was so diverse. From the DEP stuff, to angel dust to whatever those fantomas clips i was listening to were all about :confused: the album was somethign to do with the days in april, and the clips just seemed like random noise...

Any info on genres/sites i may look at/tracks i should look at would be great;y appreciated :)

GurS 05-25-2005 11:28 AM

My poem: feedback plz?

[b][i][u]Shallow[/b][/i][/u]

When I can bear to lift my head up from my desk
I stare out the window, and wonder about the world.
It’s not healthy in a boy my age to think about the pitfalls in human nature.
But I can’t help it.

Talking with my peers is constantly becoming a chore.
It’s not easy to try and be a nice guy when surrounded by gossip.
I find it hard to stifle my screams when I listen to my acquaintances talk.
But I manage.

A man needn’t be holy to know when he’s surrounded by sinners.
If life is an ocean of hatred and mistrust, dark and black
Then it’s one shallow enough for everyone to paddle in from time to time
Even those too young to swim.

It’s a guilty little pleasure we allow ourselves sometimes,
To swim and bathe and swallow the filthy waters of gossip,
To let the waters rush over our heads and drown us in jealousy and hatred
And drink deep.

Each day is a struggle to get through. It’s tiring work,
To stand and sit and listen to snide remarks all around you.
I feel so weary when I return from the battlefront, and collapse into a chair
And delicately put my head back down on the desk.

clearvision 05-25-2005 11:31 AM

Was coo, if a tad ont he repetitive side

'If life is an ocean of hatred and mistrust, dark and black
Then it’s one shallow enough for everyone to paddle in from time to time
Even those too young to swim.'

Love those 3 lines...

Mebbe you should have a word with your peers?

munky_magik 05-25-2005 11:32 AM

[QUOTE=clearvision]Ah i see the edit...

I'm just looking for info really, 'cause i didi my usaul trick...get onto amazon and start listening to snippets but it seemed that his stuff was so diverse. From the DEP stuff, to angel dust to whatever those fantomas clips i was listening to were all about :confused: the album was somethign to do with the days in april, and the clips just seemed like random noise...

Any info on genres/sites i may look at/tracks i should look at would be great;y appreciated :)[/QUOTE]
I can upload some stuff from the Self-Titled Mr Bungle album if you like.
Alternatively I could upload the whole thing, if you like.

RCA 05-25-2005 11:33 AM

Amazing poem, GurS! I really like it.

[QUOTE=Poem]Talking with my peers is constantly becoming a chore.
It’s not easy to try and be a nice guy when surrounded by gossip.
I find it hard to stifle my screams when I listen to my acquaintances talk.
But I manage.[/QUOTE]

I can relate to that.

clearvision 05-25-2005 11:35 AM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]I can upload some stuff from the Self-Titled Mr Bungle album if you like.
Alternatively I could upload the whole thing, if you like.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the offer, but i could torrent it at a quicker speed and you'd not have the hassle :) I'll giev it a go...

NP : DJ Shadow - the private press...awesome

Bartender 05-25-2005 11:36 AM

[QUOTE=clearvision]Ah i see the edit...

I'm just looking for info really, 'cause i didi my usaul trick...get onto amazon and start listening to snippets but it seemed that his stuff was so diverse. From the DEP stuff, to angel dust to whatever those fantomas clips i was listening to were all about :confused: the album was somethign to do with the days in april, and the clips just seemed like random noise...

Any info on genres/sites i may look at/tracks i should look at would be great;y appreciated :)[/QUOTE]

I'll put something together for you. Might take me a while though.

[QUOTE=Gurs]
*poem[/QUOTE]

Pretty good. It had a nice (if you understand me using "nice" in a different sense to it being happy :)) theme throughout it, is the main thing I came away with from it.

GurS 05-25-2005 11:40 AM

[QUOTE=clearvision]Mebbe you should have a word with your peers?[/QUOTE]

I wish I could... but two things stop me. A) I don't want to seem pretentious or as if I occupy the moral highground, and B) far too many people do it for my to try and explain people the importance of valuing others, and of not taking people at face value.

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]Amazing poem, GurS! I really like it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bartender]Pretty good. It had a nice theme throughout it, is the main thing I came away with from it.[/QUOTE]

Thanks guys :)

munky_magik 05-25-2005 11:58 AM

That was a good read Gurs.
I think I'm gonna see the new Star Wars tonight. Did John Williams write the score for it?

Bartender 05-25-2005 11:59 AM

He did, yep.

EDIT: could someone provide me with an o umlaut? or anything really that can pass for an o, but isn't recognised and censored here on MX.

munky_magik 05-25-2005 12:05 PM

It can't be all that bad then :)

ó is vaugely o-ish.

Rothmans 05-25-2005 12:07 PM

How does munky not have any rep he is like the ninja of ysi and really nice to everyone and helpful.

munky_magik 05-25-2005 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=Rothmans]How does munky not have any rep he is like the ninja of ysi and really nice to everyone and helpful.[/QUOTE]
:confused: I have 420 points coming from 5 reps.
I have the second highest non-mod Rep according to the user list. Well, apart from Joshia and Playwithfire but they don't really count.

Six Foot Revolver 05-25-2005 12:09 PM

I have only been repped once and that was for reporting bad threads :(. I have also been neg repped :upset:

GurS 05-25-2005 12:10 PM

never been neg repped, i got repped for a good equipment reivew. I thought I may have gotten rep for organising the 100 greatest non-classical pianists/keyboardists over in P&K, but no such luck :(

Arucard 05-25-2005 12:11 PM

Dont you worry, ive had jack all too.

Bartender 05-25-2005 12:11 PM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]It can't be all that bad then :)

ó is vaugely o-ish.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. And yeah, I thought it was pretty good anyway, but little beats the music coming on at the end :)

[QUOTE=rothmans]
How does munky not have any rep he is like the ninja of ysi and really nice to everyone and helpful.[/QUOTE]

I see "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to munky_magik again." quite frequently.

MXican - who by?

Six Foot Revolver 05-25-2005 12:12 PM

It was by Ali G for a post which I didn't deserve to be neg repped for

munky_magik 05-25-2005 12:13 PM

The rep system seems to work better this way.
What do all the UK residents think of the ID cards?
I'm not in favour of them. Especially since they'll cost an estimated £93.00 :-/

GurS 05-25-2005 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]The rep system seems to work better this way.
What do all the UK residents think of the ID cards?
I'm not in favour of them. Especially since they'll cost an estimated £93.00 :-/[/QUOTE]

bad idea.

lib dems got it right - use the money for more police

ATM 05-25-2005 12:16 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]He did, yep.

EDIT: could someone provide me with an o umlaut? or anything really that can pass for an o, but isn't recognised and censored here on MX.[/QUOTE]


ø

//

Hey guys, I just got home from my girlfriends house.

I had a pretty crazy night. She had a friend over that I used to have a crush on, and she got really upset because she said I was paying too much attention to her. :/

It's all good now, though. We talked it out.

Now I'm just hanging around until my guitar lesson, and downloading a Ramones album.

Arucard 05-25-2005 12:20 PM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]The rep system seems to work better this way.
What do all the UK residents think of the ID cards?
I'm not in favour of them. Especially since they'll cost an estimated £93.00 :-/[/QUOTE]

Did you see what that fraud guy said on the news? Give me a card with 50 quid on it, a DIY store and 2 hours and i could have you in Downing Street. I was like 'Eat that labour!'

Rothmans 05-25-2005 12:21 PM

how do you check your rep?

munky_magik 05-25-2005 12:21 PM

[QUOTE=Rothmans]how do you check your rep?[/QUOTE]
Scroll to the bottom of your User CP.
My, it's been a while since I've said that.


I don't actually see the point of the ID cards, at all :-/

ATM 05-25-2005 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=Med57]

That sucks...:-/ Good to hear you dealt with it though.

[SIZE=1]And what Ramones album is it?[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Loud Fast Ramones. Is it any good?

clearvision 05-25-2005 12:26 PM

Can't believe how much those ID cards cost we have no money to be casting away on them...I think ID cards will just stop people like me buying beer when underage :confused: All the immigrants and whatever will just find a way around them...the only way of preventing people from forging identities is to use I-denti-eeze.

/wonders if anyone knows what that is
//remembers this is mx
///the trilogy has taken me like a month to read... :upset:

GurS 05-25-2005 12:31 PM

i-denti-eeze?

Bartender 05-25-2005 01:10 PM

Hmm. Does anyone know when clearvision will be back online?

RCA 05-25-2005 01:14 PM

Baby let's make a run for the border
I got a hunger only tacos can stop
Do you know what I want to order?
One taco, two tostados and a soda pop

Baby let's make a run for the border
If you pay I'll take off my top
Do you remember what I want to order?
One taco, two tostados and a soda pop

...:upset:

NP: Spermbirds - Something To Prove <----GREAT hardcore punk band

clearvision 05-25-2005 01:29 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Hmm. Does anyone know when clearvision will be back online?[/QUOTE]

I'm here :)

Bartender 05-25-2005 01:36 PM

Well I was just about to post the stuff on Mike Patton's projects I typed up, but it's too big for one post :-/

clearvision 05-25-2005 01:37 PM

Ah ok, i tracked down Mr bungle's s/t, I shall give it a spin later. Will be intresting to read what you have written.

Thanks :)

Bartender 05-25-2005 01:45 PM

It's nothing special, only took me about an hour.

EDIT: There's downloads in it, so screw it, here it is, lest they expire.

[b]Faith No More[/b] (outside Angel Dust) - Well worth checking out. They're one of the more grounded projects he's worked in, and the music is generally amongst the more "normal" out of what he's produced, e.g. it generally confines itself to vocals/guitar/bass/drums/keyboard set-up, there are real songs, with verses and choruses and everything, and they don't just swing too wildly through different genres album-to-album. Pre-Patton they had a different singer, who by many accounts wasn't all that good, and who I haven't heard anyway.

Patton joined them on [i]The Real Thing[/i], which was, I think, their biggest commercial success, or at least their breakthrough album, containing as it did the hit [url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LW3WVNJJY07M3LUJSK6EW3S56]Epic[/url]. Despite the rather undoubtedly commercial nature and success of Epic, the album itself isn't just filler, or eleven tracks following the same thread closely. Despite other somewhat similarly accessible songs, such as the (amazing) opener [url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3KO7L0K0Y893C037329RDB8YEL]From Out of Nowhere[/url], the album also contained it's fair share of curveballs, such as their cover of Black Sabbath's [url=http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2XNN3ZYQ9DDCG1L85M671JS32S]War Pigs[/url] and Patton in lounge-jazz crooner mode on the closing [url=http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1BOSGUB8FA6A5203FQ0FNF53QR]Edge of the World[/url].

[i]Angel Dust[/i] you already know, so I won't go into it too much. It's basically considered to be the band's creative peak, and it is a brilliant album. "Schizophrenic" is used a lot to describe it in reviews, with good reason.

[i]King For a Day, Fool For a Lifetime[/i] is a slow-burner. I think it's a little more esoteric than most of the rest of their output, though I'm not sure why, it's not because it's aurally shocking, or loud, or violent. It just seemed to catch me off-guard initially, but when I finally managed to digest it properly, it settled into a place mostly just below, occasionally equal to, [i]Angel Dust[/i] in my affections. Stand-out tracks are hard to pick, since there is a fair amount of variation, and an incredibly high standard of song-writing throughout. [url=http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3ETGC3R5LKRJP0C4DCSPMSOLOY]Ricochet[/url] contains the celebrated line "It's only funny until someone gets hurt, and then it's just hilarious, while [url=http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1T3AZLW7QAPOK10KB7486JZD32]Evidence[/url] seems written specifically to exemplify KFAD's slow-burning nature.

[i]Album of the Year[/i] is the FNM album I'm probably least familiar with (apart from the ones I've not heard, naturally). It was their last before internal stress broke the band apart, and it's a fine album to go out on. It doesn't have the schizophrenic nature of [i]Angel Dust[/i] or the excellence of songwriting of [i]KFAD[/i]; it's just very good. More or less randomly chosen exemplary tracks - [url=http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0F0DTDGNNVSI339PHYEKB4823A]Helpless[/url] and [url=http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PU66NWBAGV6Y2CKF7D3OQ1IXI]Ashes to Ashes[/url].

After Faith No More, he became incredibly prolific, which is no bad thing since (in my humble opinion of course) he's one of the greatest vocalists around. The following are in no particular order (not even necessarily post-FNM);

[b]Mr Bungle[/b] were a band Patton was in before FNM (I think, anyway - not sure), but their first official (self-titled) album wasn't released until 1991, thanks to Patton's success with Faith No More. Far though FNM may be from the norm, Mr Bungle are further. They switch (or switched - they broke up late in 2004) between rock, metal, ska, jazz, pop, surf rock, doo-wop, funk, and just general unclassifiable-ness throughout their three releases, and often throughout each individual song.

The first, self-titled album is probably their most 'normal'; it's very funky, and probably hits the least amount of genres of the three. It's also their most immature record; pretty much each song is bookended by noise, funny samples or sex/toilet-centred humour, not to mention actual songs such as [url=http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1WIKMU3LJ55MF0DGOOWY3LROD0]My *** is On Fire[/url] and [url=http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DWY0BWWD2W0Q2NDBIQ2PKFR6Y]The Girls of Pórn[/url]. But it's still an excellent release.

[i]Disco Volante[/i] came next, and is my least favourite. It's not bad, but it's very (very) experimental, and often songs just aren't that great. Nonetheless, sample tracks; [url=http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3BA6P857A177V33G2DYKTT6FNP]Desert Search for Techno Allah[/url] and [url=http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=18P9DLQ034YV61CGVXV6WXV9BP]Carry Stress in the Jaw[/url].

[i]California[/i], the third and last, is probably the one most often considered their best. Real song-structures and a Trojan-horse approach to the music itself make a really memorable album. The genres still switch around all over the place, of course. Patton's voice gets plenty of use, which can only be a good thing. Stand-out tracks, in a similar manner to [i]KFAD[/i], are difficult to pinpoint, but here's the opener, [url=http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0R0YTY3C9NL2D0OM33UYL1BYDP]Sweet Charity[/url], the closing track, [url=http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1IXJA0B3ZTWGC1N0O9VK4KMKMY]Goodbye Sober Day[/url], and one of my personal favourites (and a shorter track), [url=http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0HKIO9VI1INNU16DU1BCHUAGQN]Vanity Fair[/url].

Now, [b]Fantomas[/b] are something of a supergroup, consisting as they do of Trevor Dunn (Mr Bungle - and others - bassist, and an excellent bassist at that), Melvins' Buzz Osbourne, and Slayer's Dave Lombardo. Probably the most experimental of Patton's long-standing projects, uploading tracks would be more or less useless, so I won't upload any without request. Their first album was a thirty track, vocal-less (or rather lyric-less - Patton shrieks, growls, scats and otherwise gibbers his way through the album) semi-concept album based on the band's namesake, and is excellent, if a bit of a shock initially. [url=http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=313ZQ834V8DOY1CXZBI2ICLUW4]Here[/url]'s a short video of them playing the 29th track on the album live which I like.

Second came [i]The Director's Cut[/i], an album somewhat in the vein of their first album, but with tracks more closely resembling songs, along with resembling the famous film scores they were covering/interpreting.

Their third release is known as [i]Delirium Cordia[/i], and is again vaguely conceptual; it's supposed to be something of a soundtrack to a surgical operation. It's one single track, seventy-four minutes long, and ranges between 'awesome' and 'godawful', depending entirely on mood, disposition, etc.

Their last album, released earlier this year, is called [i]Suspended Animation[/i], and is the closest thing to repeating themselves they've done yet, since it largely resembles their first album (thirty tracks, similar musical style), but interspersed with samples of cartoon music and sometimes mimicking cartoon music. It's dedicated to the month of April - was released on April 1st, the packaging is in the form of a calendar for April (and includes "Mother's Day"-style days for each day of it), and the tracks are called simply 04/01/05, 04/02/05, etc. I'm still undecided on it, personally.

[b]Tomahawk[/b] are one of his bands I know little about. They've released two albums, I think, self-titled and [i]Mit Gas[/i]. I think other members of the band were formerly in Jesus Lizard, which can't be bad. I have three songs from the first, self-titled album downloaded on a different computer, and they're pretty good. I keep meaning to pick the albums up, though.

Now, side-projects and one-offs. There are a fair few, and most of them won't have uploaded songs, either because I haven't got the albums available to me, or because YSI seems to have mysteriously stopped working for me.

1. He did some work on Björk's [i]Medulla[/i] album. It's an almost entirely all-vocal album, which I quite like (although many other don't), so he's one amongst many talented vocalists she assembled, and his contribution (on record, anyway) doesn't seem incredibly substantial.

Bartender 05-25-2005 01:47 PM

2. [i]General Patton vs the X-Ecutioners[/i] is another more recently released project he's been involved in, and it's just what it sounds like - Mike Patton and the (somewhat legendary) team of scratchers collaborating on a military-themed project. I personally enjoy it, and I think most people would like it if they took it with a light heart. I've uploaded the first three tracks from the album; the first two form an amusing introduction, while the third is the first real song on the album.
[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0GQ1YACYBX1TA3PGJWMN1V73KQ]1. X-Men Doctrine and Declaration - Target 40-40-11N 73-56-38W[/url]
[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05KLQN8BAY4A01NR24XYROWW9]2. General P. Counterintelligence - Target 37-47-38N 122-33-17W[/url]
[url=http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2EW6M54UCCGY22BOOGWRMDOK52]3. ¡Get Up, Punk! 0200 Hrs. (Joint Special Operations Task Force)[/url]

4. He released a record in collaboration with John Kaada, a Norwegian experimental pop and film score musician, and I like the result, [i]Romances[/i]. It's a nice little album. It's not very structured, but I liked it all the same; it brings to mind hedonistic, debonair, film noir scenes for me. [url=http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0DXHNU6WGMYFO2JJWE9OV99S2L]Pitié Pour Mes Larmes[/url] is one of the songs with lyrics, and [url=http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2O1QZ1TW7PKH33BASOEDWMRYGJ]Labsent[/url] is one of the better shorter tracks.

5. He also has two solo albums to his name, which go by the name of [i]Adult Themes For Voice[/i] and [i]Pranzo Oltranzista[/i]. I've not heard anything from them, so I can't pass comment, really. I think they're all-vocal, and non-lyrical, though.

6. He did a one off album with the Japanese noise-legend known as Merzbow, under the name of Maldoror. The album is called [i]She[/i], and if it was in any stores I've found it in for less than the £14.99 it seems eternally to be priced at, I would probably own it. Since it doesn't seem to be, my sole experience of Maldoror is a track called Twitch of the Death Nerve which I downloaded a couple of years ago, but which I don't have here for you. It was, as you might expect, noise, but it was a good track.

7. In the time when the Dillinger Escape Plan were without a vocalist, Patton joined them for some live shows and recorded an EP called [i]Irony is a Dead Scene[/i]. It's a very good EP, though only four songs. A live cover the collaboration did has recently been uploaded [url=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8010021&postcount=79]here[/url].

8. He did some live shows with the (incredibly talented) beatboxer Rahzel. I get the impression there is some recorded material from them too, but I haven't heard it.

And, though I've probably missed out something big, that's all of his I know/have heard.

EDIT: And now I think I'm going to go for tea.


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