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The Chemist 05-19-2008 02:17 PM

Try a Vault crash. The APX are quite... gross.

MonorailCat 05-19-2008 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=The Chemist;16351317]Try a Vault crash. The APX are quite... gross.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I didn't know how they'd be or not. I was planning on trying them out, probably still will. I've played a Vault Ride, it was brilliant. So I might check those out too.
Along with the A Customs, there always good!

fishbulb 05-19-2008 04:04 PM

Vaults were created to be similar to the A Customs so be sure to check both of them out.

MonorailCat 05-20-2008 04:38 AM

[QUOTE=fishbulb;16351851]Vaults were created to be similar to the A Customs so be sure to check both of them out.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I will :) Thanks

Harrow 05-20-2008 08:12 AM

If your looking for a big bright sound check out the Paiste signature crystal thin crashes.

oliv_da_skinmasher 05-20-2008 09:06 AM

[QUOTE=MonorailCat;16351242]Ehh, more bright than dark I suppose. So that'll probably be a 16". Other than tone, I'm really looking for something thats a good cut through music, but not something overbearing the Metal-X series.[/QUOTE]

-Paiste 2002 Crashes are good. Medium weight, suit all volume levels really well. A nice bright warm sound, for an all purpose crash.

-Paiste Signature Reflector Heavy Full Crash would also be good if you're looking for something with a lil more 'bite'. Medium heavy crashes with a nice silvery stick sound. A bright explosive full sound overall.

oliv_da_skinmasher 05-25-2008 08:50 AM

I'm thinkin bout tryin out some 16" hats. Anyone got any ideas on a crash to pair with a 16" 2002 crash?

Paiste cymbals would be prefered but doesnt have to be

ant_182 05-25-2008 09:13 AM

zildjian 16" K Light hats?

oliv_da_skinmasher 05-25-2008 09:15 AM

Yeah true, but I thought i'd try out 2 crashes as hats see how it went

fastlane 05-26-2008 01:04 PM

hey guys i was wondering if AA rock crashes would be too one dimensional? theres a guy selling some and i didnt know how theyd sound. i do mainly play rock but i dont want that to be the only thing i can play with them.

saars 05-26-2008 11:50 PM

I'm getting fairly tired of my AAXplosion crash because it's too cutting and loud (which is what I was looking for in the first place, but I kinda drifted into jazz...). Anyways, I'm looking for a versatile 18"/19" crash that's warm and not too bright, not very cutting, and would be good as an aux. ride at times. Your guys' help would be much appreciated. :)

ATLbraves 05-27-2008 08:01 AM

Hmm...
 
Try the 18" Z Custom Medium Crash...I love mine because it isn't too obnoctous .



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I'm thinking about adding a 14" Wuhan China to my set, I already have an 18" Oriental China on there, but I'm looking for more of a deeper sound. It seems the Oriental is too, light and washy?

I hear a lot of good things about the Wuhan and I have even heard some stuff from it.

Just seeing what you guys think, or if you have any better suggestions.

I'm also wanting to add another crash onto my set. I have an 18" Z Custom as my main crash and that's just way too big. I'd prefer anywhere from 14"-16", and I also prefer Zildjian.

Thanks a lot, this really helps.

(PS. I'm recording this summer, if that effects your decision in any way...)

gimp fest 05-27-2008 11:08 AM

[quote=oliv_da_skinmasher;16369740]Yeah true, but I thought i'd try out 2 crashes as hats see how it went[/quote]

oliv, don't know any crashes but it might be worth checking these out

[url]http://mikedolbear.com/story.asp?StoryID=1518[/url]

oliv_da_skinmasher 05-27-2008 11:10 AM

Not a big Menil fan tbh. Gonna get the Paiste Twenty 16" hats

saars 05-27-2008 08:47 PM

[QUOTE=ATLbraves;16375261]Try the 18" Z Custom Medium Crash...I love mine because it isn't too obnoctous .[/QUOTE]

If that was directed to me, I'm really not into Z Customs. I was lookin' around, and I was thinking of looking into either the K Custom Dark crashes, K dark medium-thin crash, or K Custom session crash. Any opinions before I go ahead to the store and test them out?

Bernie812 06-04-2008 05:51 PM

Can you take a look at this cymbal for sale and tell me how the notching will affect the sound? It says the notches were for repairs on cracks or something.

[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/Zildjian-20-A-Custom-Crash-Cymbal-Great-Drum-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ110258883660QQihZ001QQcategoryZ41442QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

ace76543 06-04-2008 05:55 PM

I don't think it affects the sound greatly, but if there were cracks before it's likely to crack again

Bernie812 06-04-2008 06:39 PM

hmmm, also, if you cut the cymbal down from say a 19" to a 16" diameter, does this affect the quality? Would it be likely to crack again if it the crack was cut out?

ace76543 06-04-2008 06:40 PM

What do you mean by quality?

Bernie812 06-04-2008 07:17 PM

I know it will change the sound to a higher pitch, but since it was made to be a 19" would it make the life span shorter?

DrumIntoTheNight 06-09-2008 03:42 PM

[quote=Bernie812;16388540]hmmm, also, if you cut the cymbal down from say a 19" to a 16" diameter, does this affect the quality? Would it be likely to crack again if it the crack was cut out?[/quote]

Since you're changing drastically the proportion of bell to bow, it'll be likely to sound more bell-ish, if you get me, and that's often a bad thing. Plus, unless you're incredibly careful, you'll damage the integrity of the metal through heating and probably shorten the cymbals lifespan.

That said, there's nothing to lose on an already cracked cymbal.

But yeah anyway, opinions on the 20" Crash of Doom?

DJMastahFreddie 06-16-2008 10:29 PM

I cracked my 18" crash I've had for a while and now I'm looking to replace it. I'm just looking for a nice sounding 18" crash that will go well with my sweet ride and A custom hats.

oliv_da_skinmasher 06-17-2008 09:43 AM

Sabian AAX Studio Crash. A tasty thin cymbal with a relatively small bell. Quick response with a full, glassy and shimmering sound.

Paiste Signature Full Crash. A medium weight cymbal with a washy stick sound and medium sustain. It gives a really nice bright, warm and sparkling sound. It's a very versatile general purpose crash

Paiste Twenty Crash. Medium weight crash with a silvery stick sound, and again with a medium sustain. It has a great full open sound. It has a fantastic response. A very dynamic, full sounding crash cymbal for application in a very wide range of musical settings.

To name a few

bobby__johnny 06-18-2008 08:16 AM

[QUOTE=DJMastahFreddie;16415155]I cracked my 18" crash I've had for a while and now I'm looking to replace it. I'm just looking for a nice sounding 18" crash that will go well with my sweet ride and A custom hats.[/QUOTE]

what did you have before? what other crashes do you have now?

Panopticon 06-18-2008 09:52 AM

[quote=oliv_da_skinmasher;16415768]Sabian AAX Studio Crash. A tasty thin cymbal with a relatively small bell. Quick response with a full, glassy and shimmering sound.[/quote]

The studio crash is not glassy and shimmering at all.

oliv_da_skinmasher 06-18-2008 10:35 AM

Aye it is. Mines glassy. shimmering maybe not so much but defo glassy.

And besides it is a nice cymbal

ant_182 06-20-2008 03:18 PM

So then. X Hats. I can buy 12" Special recording hats for about £156 or get two splashes off ebay/new for around the same price. Or I can get something like these

[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zildjian-ZXT-Mini-Hats-10_W0QQitemZ120274317231QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120274317231&_trkparms=72%3A638%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14[/url]

Which will be loads cheaper. I'll have them tightly closed so would it make much difference between those and expensive hats? Cheers

an_original_name 06-20-2008 03:27 PM

^^^ i can't comment on any of those, but i can say that a 10" wuhan splash on the bottom and 10" A custom splash on top sounds pretty darn nice as a set of mini hats.

T

EDIT:i didn't know there was such as thing as ZXT mini hats. you sure they're not just 2 10" ZXt splashes being sold as mini hats?

oliv_da_skinmasher 06-20-2008 03:32 PM

They're ZHT not ZXT. And they aint too great

DJMastahFreddie 06-21-2008 11:50 PM

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny;16418665]what did you have before? what other crashes do you have now?[/QUOTE]

I have a 16" and 18" K custom dark crash. The only other crashes I have are ZBTs. I'm not sure if I want to go with the same type, I went with them at the recommendation of my drum teacher at the time. They really are great sounding cymbals, a shame I had to go and crack one of them.


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