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Pluperfect_Arson 04-06-2005 05:06 PM

[QUOTE=Eddie-the-Trooper]i think im gonna convert to buddhism.. they live so easy and peace full and have such a powerful mind controll...

AND THEY DONT MAKE FRIGGIN NUCLEAR WEAPONS![/QUOTE]

:lol:

Of course, Buddhism is one of the few religions that make sense.

I watched this documentary about Hell and the Devil, and the only religions that made sense when it came to that topic were Buddhism and the Satanist Church.

jaco jr 04-06-2005 05:07 PM

[QUOTE=neal_672]I think this is possibly the most Selfish and ignorant viewpoint i have ever seen. So we allow people with cancer to die as finding a cure is "playing God" so is killing animals, so are many of the things we do in daily life! Doesn't make them wrong! If you had cancer or had somebody you know die from it i'm sure you wouldn't be putting forward such stupdendously selfish views![/QUOTE]
you know i think i might - but i want to do somehting for the 3billion people starving out there
but i believe in fate - and i think if there is a time for me to die - i must die then

Pluperfect_Arson 04-06-2005 05:08 PM

[QUOTE=Eddie-the-Trooper]like... new rule.... one child per person.. if they remarry and wanna have child, they should have thought about that before![/QUOTE]

I think they already do that in China.

[QUOTE=jamie_dunce]I heard if one Nuclear Bomb goes off, it'll trigger a chain reaction of Nuclear bombs/power stations going off meaning the end of the world. I also heard that the world will be hit my a comet in 2012... (dunno about that though)[/QUOTE]

From what I remember, that meteor isn't going to hit the Earth. It's going to be really ****ing close, though.

Spaceman Spiff 04-06-2005 05:09 PM

Hasn't a comet supposed to hit the planet a bunch of times? :lol:

neal_672 04-06-2005 05:10 PM

Pfffft the whole Comet thing just appeared on a slow newsday aswell seemingly. I think a lot more fuss would be made about that kinda thing if anything were actually going to happen. Not having a flame at you here by the way jamie, i was just expressing an opinion!

But you're right about the Nuclear weapons, it's also one of the reasons many people believe there won't be a nuclear war: "mutual destruction" or something like that, neither side wants to be blown to smithereens so they just leave it. Like what happend with the Cold War...

jaco jr 04-06-2005 05:11 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]Hasn't a comet supposed to hit the planet a bunch of times? :lol:[/QUOTE]
the daily mail runs that story whenever theyve run something on the beckhams or the royals for 3 days straight
and if it does i hope it hits george bush right in the behind

Thunder Fingers 04-06-2005 05:11 PM

Death is just a change of place for your "soul"

neal_672 04-06-2005 05:11 PM

[QUOTE=jaco jr]you know i think i might - but i want to do somehting for the 3billion people starving out there
but i believe in fate - and i think if there is a time for me to die - i must die then[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes: so the people already living are more important than those that are uinhealthy yet could be cured? So you would refuse ANY cure if it were "your time to die"?

neal_672 04-06-2005 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=Eddie-the-Trooper]Death is just a change of place for your "soul"[/QUOTE]

I'd disagree personally, i'd say that it is the absolute end. I don't believe in any life after death, nor do i believe in souls. Live life to it's fullest people :thumb:

jaco jr 04-06-2005 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=neal_672]:rolleyes: so the people already living are more important than those that are uinhealthy yet could be cured? So you would refuse ANY cure if it were "your time to die"?[/QUOTE]
no cos all the cures are part of fate - if you can be cured of it - maybe it wasnt your time to die - but i think if you stop something like cancer the world will explode with people

Thunder Fingers 04-06-2005 05:13 PM

there will be no nuclear war exept one nation fires one, another fires another, and the whole world explode...

Thunder Fingers 04-06-2005 05:14 PM

"its a time to live, its a time to die, its a time to meet your maker"

jaco jr 04-06-2005 05:14 PM

and also - if we keep relying regularly on medicine to treat minor ailments - they become ineffective - the bug adapts and develops a resistance - so thinks to cure a cold may be rendered obsolete if they are over used

Pluperfect_Arson 04-06-2005 05:15 PM

[QUOTE=neal_672]Pfffft the whole Comet thing just appeared on a slow newsday aswell seemingly. I think a lot more fuss would be made about that kinda thing if anything were actually going to happen. Not having a flame at you here by the way jamie, i was just expressing an opinion!

But you're right about the Nuclear weapons, it's also one of the reasons many people believe there won't be a nuclear war: "mutual destruction" or something like that, neither side wants to be blown to smithereens so they just leave it. Like what happend with the Cold War...[/QUOTE]

If you ask me, I think we should go back to swords, arrows, and shields. It isn't so destructive to the surrounding areas, and it doesn't really have any side effects other than death.

neal_672 04-06-2005 05:15 PM

[QUOTE=jaco jr]no cos all the cures are part of fate - if you can be cured of it - maybe it wasnt your time to die - but i think if you stop something like cancer the world will explode with people[/QUOTE]

But surely you're just being hypocritical in that you said a cure is just "playing God" you can't have it both ways surely? Nowhere near enough people die from cancer to have "the world explode with people" as somebody dies every 3 seconds i think it was, so the population isn't likely to explode really. For starters the Uk's population is perfectly stable with an actual decrease last year...

Thunder Fingers 04-06-2005 05:17 PM

yeah, it was alot better... they go out on the field and kill each other and come back(thoose who survived.) i thnk Leaders of the world should do that instead of sending 10000 of people out to die for them... if you want to be a true leader, you gotta be preapered to die for the cause....

Thunder Fingers 04-06-2005 05:18 PM

someone dies every 3 second, someone is born every second...

Spaceman Spiff 04-06-2005 05:19 PM

[QUOTE=jaco jr]no cos all the cures are part of fate - if you can be cured of it - maybe it wasnt your time to die - but i think if you stop something like cancer the world will explode with people[/QUOTE]
Not that many people die of cancer that the world would overpopulate if there was a cure.


That wouldn't even happen if there was an AIDS cure! Sure, everybody would be [COLOR=White]fu[/COLOR]cking everybody, but that's why there is birth control and abortions.

Thunder Fingers 04-06-2005 05:19 PM

anyway... its getting late, and i have a meeting with a lady that might give me some money early tomorrow, so see ya...;)

jaco jr 04-06-2005 05:20 PM

maybe i was being hypocritical - but if you could find a cure for everything on the planet - except old age and accidental deaths and murders - the world would soon have a mass increase of people - what im syaing is - half the worlds population is starving - i wanna solve that - not make the problem worse

neal_672 04-06-2005 05:20 PM

Hang on is ANYONE actually on my side for the whole finding a cure for cancer/diseases thing or am i on my own here :amaze:

neal_672 04-06-2005 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=jaco jr]maybe i was being hypocritical - but if you could find a cure for everything on the planet - except old age and accidental deaths and murders - the world would soon have a mass increase of people - what im syaing is - half the worlds population is starving - i wanna solve that - not make the problem worse[/QUOTE]
That's the thing most countries do both, surely it's also a priority to look after yourself as well as others?

jaco jr 04-06-2005 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=neal_672]That's the thing most countries do both, surely it's also a priority to look after yourself as well as others?[/QUOTE]
oh yeh
but what do countries like zimbabwe spend aid on? - weapons - not feeding people dying of hunger

neal_672 04-06-2005 05:22 PM

Ciao Martin :wave:

Pluperfect_Arson 04-06-2005 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=neal_672]Hang on is ANYONE actually on my side for the whole finding a cure for cancer/diseases thing or am i on my own here :amaze:[/QUOTE]

I'm with you on it. I really think it depends on the type of cancer the person has, and how bad they've got it. I mean, if they are one their last set of breaths they shouldn't save them.

That sounds kind of heartless of me.

And to whoever said something about finding an AIDS cure, they have found one that only works in some people. It has something to do with using the person's/other people's DNA. I can try and find the article if you'd like. It was actually rather interesting.

Spaceman Spiff 04-06-2005 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=neal_672]Hang on is ANYONE actually on my side for the whole finding a cure for cancer/diseases thing or am i on my own here :amaze:[/QUOTE]
I think a cure would be great.


Here's a hypothetical question, would you shoot a little girl in the face from point blank range in order to cure all the diseases in the world?

neal_672 04-06-2005 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=jaco jr]oh yeh
but what do countries like zimbabwe spend aid on? - weapons - not feeding people dying of hunger[/QUOTE]
And this is relevant how exactly? :confused: I thought the debate was curing Cancer etc. It's quite obvious Zimbabwe is not a stable country thus can barely fund itself under the rule of a vicious dictator...

tim_commerfordism 04-06-2005 05:24 PM

you guys, isnt it abit obvious that you should have a cure.

OK, imagine this, your family has a long history of cancer, and say most your family gets it when they reach 60+ years etc.

Wouldnt you personally want them to be cured?

Now imagine all those other families.

jaco jr 04-06-2005 05:26 PM

[QUOTE=neal_672]And this is relevant how exactly? :confused: I thought the debate was curing Cancer etc. It's quite obvious Zimbabwe is not a stable country thus can barely fund itself under the rule of a vicious dictator...[/QUOTE]
what im saying is - concentrate on giving people neough to eat - then concentrate on saving people which will put more strain on the population

neal_672 04-06-2005 05:26 PM

Thank you! I thought i was the only sane person here...

nisakss 04-06-2005 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=jaco jr]no - i just think that the population increase should be stopped and if possible the population brought down - not by culling - by way of birth control
and i think that if a cure could be found for disease/cancer id be al for it
but i think its wrong to 'play god', which a cure would be doing
and someone has to think of the repercussions; according to the uk government, one in three people will suffer from cancer at some point in their lives - and 1 in 10 of those will die - so thats 1 in 30 people will be saved from death - if you imagine the amount of people that will be saved and how this will affect the population - the world will not cope
the same with prolonging life - if scientists find a way to prolong life to say, an average of 120 - people will have to work until they are say, 90-100 or otherwise there will be too many people in the category of those who are not working, and the world will collapse because there are not enough people working to support those who arent
i think you should all watch the film 'Extreme Measures' - it raises some severe questions about finding a cure for things - and i would have to say, i agree with what hugh grant says in the scene at the end where he has the gun - you cant choose for people - that is too high a price to find a cure[/QUOTE]

well...I won't even discuss the cure thing.....hope you never get sick or someone you love for the matter.....

But your argument on the work thing....that has been said time after time, as a matter of fact in the early 30's there was a general concern that automatization would leave people without work and withoout anything to do, a....but the thruth is that year after year people have less free time to spend, and the predictions indicate that this shall remain the same. I think a time may come when money disappears, and there shall be other ways of living.....

Omega Red 04-06-2005 05:27 PM

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neal_672 04-06-2005 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=jaco jr]what im saying is - concentrate on giving people neough to eat - then concentrate on saving people which will put more strain on the population[/QUOTE]

That's the point we already concentrate on both!

jaco jr 04-06-2005 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=neal_672]That's the point we already concentrate on both![/QUOTE]
cos if you start curing cancer worldwide - then the population will increase making it even harder to find a cure for hunger
im not saying efforts should be postponed - but if you realease a cure for cancer before the cure for hunger is found - the world will struggle more

jaco jr 04-06-2005 05:35 PM

hey neal im off to get some shuteye - youve put in some good arguments - i really am not sure what to think now

Left Shoe 04-06-2005 05:45 PM

[QUOTE=jaco jr]oh i think it would be great if there was a cure
but its true
already half the worlds population dont have enough to eat
id wanna reduce the population if it was up to me- not save it
or at least stop the increase[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Left Shoe]im sorry but cancer doesnt kill that many people deary. if the extremist conservatives found a "cure" for homosexuality we would have more of an overpopulation problem than if we found one for cancer[/QUOTE]
nuff said

tim_commerfordism 04-06-2005 05:45 PM

i guess everyone knows about Quatre's scam to be Sheehan?

Rollo47 04-06-2005 05:48 PM

Morning All

How are we?

neal_672 04-06-2005 05:48 PM

Yeah :lol:

Left Shoe 04-06-2005 05:49 PM

yeah i knew


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