That would surprise me less than if it turned out to be true.

hmmmm....18 minuets....thats longer than third eye.....awsome!!!

Blair has a very strange form of writing.. hard to understand what he's trying to get across sometimes.. and unfortunately he isn't trying to get anything across at times...
Meh... to me it isn't any news.. just more Blair rubbish..

[QUOTE=cigaro88]in the booklet ,,, its looks like jap words really.... and in the booklet there are images, no eng lyrics.. is this a japanese version or what

i'm talking about APC Mer de Noms here[/QUOTE]
No, you have the normal version. They're just symbols, though Maynard, in his typical Maynard attitude, said that they do mean something.

On a completely different note, do we have any Porcupine Tree fans here? I got Deadwing a few weeks ago, and I love it. Great experimental prog rock, with a bit of a psychadelic touch to it. Steve Wilson has a great voice, the drummer and bassist are fantastic, and Adrian Belew from King Crimson and Mikael Akerfeldt from Opeth do some great guest guitar solos.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]No, you have the normal version. They're just symbols, though Maynard, in his typical Maynard attitude, said that they do mean something.

On a completely different note, do we have any Porcupine Tree fans here? I got Deadwing a few weeks ago, and I love it. Great experimental prog rock, with a bit of a psychadelic touch to it. Steve Wilson has a great voice, the drummer and bassist are fantastic, and Adrian Belew from King Crimson and Mikael Akerfeldt from Opeth do some great guest guitar solos.[/QUOTE]
cool

[QUOTE=BurtonChancellor]Update on the Tool site. Nothing special, but Blair mentions they're "assembling/recording a rather monstrous piece of music", which I would assume is that 18 minute song that keeps on getting mentioned. And hey, at least it might be a sign that they've moved from the songwriting process onto recording/mixing. It ain't much, but I'll take anything that might mean the album's coming sometime in the forseeable future.[/QUOTE]

They've been recording for ages, in the updates they've mentioned Danny saying they got [i]another[/i] song recorded with some vocals from Maynard that he's excited about, and I think they mentioned LK (the 18 minute song) being finished, so that's at least 2 songs recorded.

The song he speaks of isn't LK, because they've already assembled it and at least started recording it. I wonder if he means "monstrous" as in it's lengthy, or "monstrous" as in it's heavy. I hope it's the heavy one.

This is one thing I'm excited about; with this album Maynard is doing lyrics and vocals when the others are playing, not like Lateralus which had Maynard layering vocals and writing lyrics after the whole album was done.
It's not bad in Lateralus, you can't notice, but when you do know it lessens the whole album, for me at least, so I'm glad about this change.

Need.... new... record.... NOW....

Part of me is ok, you tend to sing through your nose too much though...the 'you are a part of me' bit was cool though...

I'm trying not to complain too much because my voice is actually atrocious so i don't really have a foot to stand on.

/runs off to slit blairs throat :)

I have a feeling we'll be killed by the Opeth thread. I might be doing some growling vox for them.

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/writePage.cfm?myType=_music&bandid=332764&bandnamesave=drjakedestructo[/url]


My Sober. I've been dying to post that, but I couldn't due to the spambots, and I was out last night, so here you guys are. It's not sync'd with any particular version. It's pretty rough, but tell me what to work on anyways.

[QUOTE=Moseswasbanned]I have a feeling we'll be killed by the Opeth thread. I might be doing some growling vox for them.[/QUOTE]
Heh, I may be doing vocals for the drapery falls growls.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Heh, I may be doing vocals for the drapery falls growls.[/QUOTE]
I remember reading that your throat burned after you were done singing the growling part for that. You must have a different technique than I do, because death growls are as easy as talking for me.

Hehe... yeah I did kinda mess up my throat last night. I definalty over did it, but I nailed the part. I thought it sounded good, and I never think anything I do sounds good.


When are you going to post your sample? I'd like to hear it.


And as for the technique thing, a lot of it comes from my gut but I just use my throat to almost project it. Its kinda hard to explain.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Hehe... yeah I did kinda mess up my throat last night. I definalty over did it, but I nailed the part. I thought it sounded good, and I never think anything I do sounds good.


When are you going to post your sample? I'd like to hear it.


And as for the technique thing, a lot of it comes from my gut but I just use my throat to almost project it. Its kinda hard to explain.[/QUOTE]
Whenever my family gets out of the house and I have time. Which will probably be tonight or tomorrow night.

The way I do it is I drop my adams apple and push from the bottom.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo][url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/writePage.cfm?myType=_music&bandid=332764&bandnamesave=drjakedestructo[/url]


My Sober. I've been dying to post that, but I couldn't due to the spambots, and I was out last night, so here you guys are. It's not sync'd with any particular version. It's pretty rough, but tell me what to work on anyways.[/QUOTE]

One step ahead of you. I spotted your link in Other Music before it was shut, so I downloaded it.

Its good stuff, nice tone, you've got the song down well. However your starting part is odd, I cant match it up to JoZ's bass, or the original track.

We will own the opeth thread, we are covering a better band...

+ they aren't doing dirge for november...(the best opeth song.)

Hmm Jake did you play along to anything, your timing definateley seems off...nice tone at the start, not sure about the cleanish sound though...

[QUOTE=clearvision]We will own the opeth thread, we are covering a better band...

+ they aren't doing The Moor...(the best opeth song.)

Hmm Jake did you play along to anything, your timing definateley seems off...nice tone at the start, not sure about the cleanish sound though...[/QUOTE]

Fix'd

Hm... I donno. They plan on covering The Moor, or Blackwater Park. And the Drapery falls forsure.


...You guys aren't picking any god like Tool songs... at least not IMO.

You guys would own the Opeth thread if you were doing something like The Grudge, The Patient, Parabola (with parabol this would beat anything), Pu****, 46&2 etc. Ya know, the better Tool songs. Part of Me is a cool track, but its nothing compared to later Tool songs.

Dirge for noveber > all :( Fixing my quotes :angry:

Oh and on the sober recording, whats up with the pedal switches, they took aaages at times...

I'm slowly piecing together the rest of aenima...anyone wanna do vox or am i gonna have to ruin it :(

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Hm... I donno. They plan on covering The Moor, or Blackwater Park. And the Drapery falls forsure.


...You guys aren't picking any god like Tool songs... at least not IMO.

You guys would own the Opeth thread if you were doing something like The Grudge, The Patient, Parabola (with parabol this would beat anything), Pu****, 46&2 etc. Ya know, the better Tool songs. Part of Me is a cool track, but its nothing compared to later Tool songs.[/QUOTE]

I would be up to do

The Patient
Stinkfist
Schisim
Or even the live version of Pushi[COLOR=White]t[/COLOR]

However, since I cant record, its down to the guys who can. Although im going to risk doing a direct line in from my amp to my crappy soundcard before I get a new one.

To be honest, i don't think we have a vocalist that could handle the grudge, or push!t...plus the songs are so epic, it would be tough. Aenima is taking me ages to learn all the parts, I'm thinking of double tracking it, but AJIG would kill me, it would be a b!tch to line up and i don't think it will sound as good.

Obviously we should do third eye, but no-one has enough time to put into it to make it sound good, and although the parts are simple, it's all about tone, and apart from Kurrpt, everyone i've heard is lacking in that department...

If you double track, then expect reduced quality :p

Be a nice challenge though.

Well there you go man, Blackwater Park is 12 min, The Moor is 11, and the Drapery Falls is almost 11. A 3 min song (part of me) isn't ganna level up to something like that... Plus the Opeth thread seems to have a lot more guys ready to record the different guitars, theres more then enough vocalists etc.

As i said, when i do sober it will be double tracked. But it aenima wouldn't be double tracked, i would just record it in about 8 sections, but i think the fluency would be wrecked, and it shows im more of a man if i have the stamina to last all 6:44

Sober will turn out great I think, and Stinkfist maybe. Part of Me will probably end up not so good.

Im thinking that if length is an issue, we do a Tool medley. Most of the songs were doing can be linked in seamlessly with a little improv (Jerk Off -> Part Of Me --> Ænema --> Stinkfist woudl all flow well).

That way you get some monster 20 min+ Tool sesion to compete with their longer tracks

Im so annoyed I cant put guitar parts up still. I've been slaughtering Stinkfist recently, and its the 2nd most fun song to play ever

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Well there you go man, Blackwater Park is 12 min, The Moor is 11, and the Drapery Falls is almost 11. A 3 min song (part of me) isn't ganna level up to something like that... Plus the Opeth thread seems to have a lot more guys ready to record the different guitars, theres more then enough vocalists etc.[/QUOTE]

Have you ever tried singing a tool song? Maynards range is incredible...the part in push!t 'If you say i might fade like a sigh if i stay, you minimise my movements anyway' Is so high compared with other parts of the song...It's very difficult to find someone to do that...

I'd gladly change and do push!t or third eye, but I'd rather get aenima/part of me/sober sounding good than getting a shaky version of push!t or third eye.

^Thats a good idea. Adam jones is gods idea that is.


Edit: Even if you did get a great sounding part of me, Opeth will still own you. Didn't Ken say that he'd get his singer (Seth I think his name was) to sing for your guys' covers? If Ken ever shows up be sure to ask him. That guys was incredible.

Yeah, I started off playing to Tool's version, then I just kind of did it on my own. :-/ Shoulda played along. :p

I've heard lots of crit about the flange tone, so I'll definitely fine tune that.

I personally think I need to fix the solo up a bit.

Ben-Yeah, I know I didn't do the opening chord (I think it's a bended B3 or something) Because I don't like how it sounds when I do it. I can't bend both strings correctly. Maybe I'll just playing the root note and call it good.

And Rob- About what I said about your Ænema track a while ago; What I said and what I meant were 2 different things. I said 'ouch' but what I really meant was back off on the gain. [size=1]They're easily confusable[/size] It was a good recording. The tone was a more fit for Triad, I think. Meh

EDIT: I double tracked part of Sober. :D

The only monster Tool track that I can play is Ticks&Leeches. Actually, I can only play Ticks& proficiently enough to record. I struggle with the 3rd part a bit.

[QUOTE=clearvision]Have you ever tried singing a tool song? Maynards range is incredible...the part in push!t 'If you say i might fade like a sigh if i stay, you minimise my movements anyway' Is so high compared with other parts of the song...It's very difficult to find someone to do that...

I'd gladly change and do push!t or third eye, but I'd rather get aenima/part of me/sober sounding good than getting a shaky version of push!t or third eye.[/QUOTE]
I think Aenima would be a good choice. I agree that Push!t would sound like ****.

I think you guys should do Parabola. The vocals are awesome, but theres no incredible range there. Plus it would be like 10 min long if you guys did Parabol to.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]
Ben-Yeah, I know I didn't do the opening chord (I think it's a bended B3 or something) Because I don't like how it sounds when I do it. I can't bend both strings correctly. Maybe I'll just playing the root note and call it good.
[/QUOTE]

Its a bend on the 12 fret G string, palyed alongside the 10th fret on the B string. Pre bend, tremelo pick it and slowly release the bend, that'll give you the effect.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I think you guys should do Parabola. The vocals are awesome, but theres no incredible range there. Plus it would be like 10 min long if you guys did Parabol to.[/QUOTE]

I asked my guitar if it wanted to go Drop B once. Hes still not speaking to me

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I think you guys should do Parabola. The vocals are awesome, but theres no incredible range there. Plus it would be like 10 min long if you guys did Parabol to.[/QUOTE]
I was also going to suggest that a while ago but the Parabol is hard to do correctly.

What gauge strings? Use like .15s or something, those'll change his mind.

[QUOTE=Moseswasbanned]I was also going to suggest that a while ago but the Parabol is hard to do correctly.[/QUOTE]
It is? its like 2 chords?

I've always wondered why I couldn't play Parabola correctly. It's in drop B. :lol:@me

The tab I have of Sober shows how to play it correctly, I just can't bend both strings at the same frequency, so it sounds horrendously out of tune, so I decided not to record it. When I do it again, I'll try it though.

EDIT: I put my gutair in drop c once. (SoaD lmao) It went out of tune in like 5 minutes.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]What gauge strings? Use like .15s or something, those'll change his mind.[/QUOTE]

I could string my Showmaster up with them, its curently in C with .11s (urgh). Im leaving my jackson in standard/D though.

Besides, its pointless, as I still have no way to record.

:lol: I wasn't having a go just to have a go, i posted first time a minute into the recording, but later it became apparent that you need to time your pedal changes a little better...the flange just needs to be toned down a little, and try looking at some midi's of tool songs to get a feel for the little bits and the rythms and stuff...

No 15 dollar computer mic?

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]It is? its like 2 chords?[/QUOTE]
I meant the vocals.