[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I agree. Orchid, al those years ago, was the first Opeth album I ever bought. I remember sitting in my room late at night listening to the music and reading the lyrics. It's a really underrated album.

EDIT: I agree with Shattered_Future.[/QUOTE]


:D Indeed. The album hit me really hard because of the time I purchased it. It didn't (and STILL DOESN'T) sound like anything I own(ed). Orchid is precious and I am so happy others reaslize it :)

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future] Anybody that says Shadows Fall is generic metalcore should be kicked in the chin fat.[/QUOTE]

I'll tell you something, I bought Reroute To Remain on a hunch, I always buy new cd's to hear what they sound like, mainly because there's nothing to do in this town. Anyway...I listened to it and didn't like it that much, so I went back to the store (FYE) and wanted to exchange. I traded it for the album [I]Of One Blood[/I], I randomly picked it. All I can say about that album is ''holy shlt''. I tried to get so many people into these guys. It worked lol
I named warcraft characters after songs on that album nopt to mention I had a very sucessful guild called <Of One Blood>. The album is so awesome! To this day, I still listen to it fully and remains on my list for top 10 greatest metal albums ever recorded.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future] EDIT: Anybody that says Shadows Fall is generic metalcore should be kicked in the chin fat.[/QUOTE]

I know you're not serious when you say this, and I'm not upset or anything, but could you just tell me why Shadows Fall are so pure and perfect? They were my favorite band from the time they released Of One Blood to the time they released The War Within. I just think that they aren't too special in any department at all. Not that they are bad, its just I think there are far more bands that distinguish themselves with a complimentary style and signature sound better than SF.

Also, in my opinion they have regressed with The War Within.

Yeah, I don't much that's interesting about Shadows Fall. Most American Wave of Heavy Metal seems inherently regressive, in that they don't do anything that's really new. It's not very impressive to me, I guess.

[QUOTE=xizoesira]I listened to Ghost Reveries recently; it still feels to me like Opeth peaked at Still Life and has been declining since.[/QUOTE]
You don't like any of their albums after Still Life?

EDIT: ^^^ Agreed 110% Cain. This "new wave of American metal" is just ridiculous and generic.

[QUOTE=Cain]Yeah, I don't much that's interesting about Shadows Fall. Most American Wave of Heavy Metal seems inherently regressive, in that they don't do anything that's really new. It's not very impressive to me, I guess.[/QUOTE]


I take it you've never heard [I]Of One Blood[/I], or [I]With Somber Eyes To The Sky [/I]then?

[QUOTE=Flynn]I take it you've never heard [I]Of One Blood[/I], or [I]With Somber Eyes To The Sky [/I]then?[/QUOTE]

No, but by all accounts they haven't improved on those albums, if they are indeed excellent as you seem to be implying. In any case, the music I have heard is remarkably devoid of melody, and I greatly dislike their soloing style.

[QUOTE=Cain]No, but by all accounts they haven't improved on those albums, if they are indeed excellent as you seem to be implying. In any case, the music I have heard is remarkably devoid of melody, and I greatly dislike their soloing style.[/QUOTE]

That's cool. So you [I]haven't[/I] heard [B]Of One Blood [/B]or [B]With Somber Eyes To The Sky[/B]. Well, Cain, when you do listen to them, I assure you..there's melody. And if you really don't see it. I give up with you.

[QUOTE=Flynn]That's cool. So you [I]haven't[/I] heard [B]Of One Blood [/B]or [B]With Somber Eyes To The Sky[/B]. Well, Cain, when you do listen to them, I assure you..there's melody. And if you really don't see it. I give up with you.[/QUOTE]

They definitely have melody, but that's not really the point.. most of the melody SF put into their music is the same melodic hooks we have heard over and over again. Sometimes it's better to be devoid of melody if it means avoiding cliche and repetition. It also seems that SF have a couple new songs they really didn't put effort into at all. Stillness and Eternity is Within seem very forced-sounding to me, and both songs have riffs I just can't stand sometimes.

Another problem is that Brian Fair has trouble supporting the melodic lines his band writes; IMO he hasn't released a decent vocal effort on any SF albums yet.

And I have Of One Blood.

what album is The Twilight Is My Robe on ?

i was wanting to buy an Opeth cd, i got into them recently dnt know a whole lot of songs though...only bout 15 or so...but i was wondering what a would be a good album to start with ?

[QUOTE=xizoesira]I listened to Ghost Reveries recently; it still feels to me like Opeth peaked at Still Life and has been declining since.[/QUOTE]
Nah, they haven't been declining. Still Life is my favorite album too, but Blackwater Park and Damnation are both undeniably of the same quality as it--Still Life just strikes me that certain way. GR is lacking a certain [i]je ne sais quois[/i] that the other albums mostly had, but it's still great.

Stormrider: that song is on Orchid. I recommend you buy Still Life, because it owns so much. I just listened to it today and it's worth buying just for The Moor and Face of Melinda...but the rest of the songs deliver so much that it's a must-have.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]what album is The Twilight Is My Robe on ?

i was wanting to buy an Opeth cd, i got into them recently dnt know a whole lot of songs though...only bout 15 or so...but i was wondering what a would be a good album to start with ?[/QUOTE]

It's track 5 off of [I]Orchid[/I]. And yes, [I]Orchid[/I] would be a great start.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]what album is The Twilight Is My Robe on ?
[/QUOTE]

Orchid.

[QUOTE=Flynn]It's track 5 off of [I]Orchid[/I]. And yes, [I]Orchid[/I] would be a great start.[/QUOTE]


Thanks, ill pick it up in a week or so i hope.

[QUOTE=Flynn]That's cool. So you [I]haven't[/I] heard [B]Of One Blood [/B]or [B]With Somber Eyes To The Sky[/B]. Well, Cain, when you do listen to them, I assure you..there's melody. And if you really don't see it. I give up with you.[/QUOTE]

Heh, ok. Clearly I've made a few dents in your opinion of me, but based on what I have heard by Shadows Fall, I see no point in spending money on two albums that may be excellent examples of their kind of music when I know that decline has already set in, in much the same way that major league baseball teams don't want to hire a 40-year-old slugger just because five years ago they hit a lot of home runs per season.

EDIT: My main problem is the vocal style.

[QUOTE=toaster135]I know you're not serious when you say this, and I'm not upset or anything, but could you just tell me why Shadows Fall are so pure and perfect? They were my favorite band from the time they released Of One Blood to the time they released The War Within. I just think that they aren't too special in any department at all. Not that they are bad, its just I think there are far more bands that distinguish themselves with a complimentary style and signature sound better than SF.

Also, in my opinion they have regressed with The War Within.[/QUOTE]

They AREN'T perfect...they aren't generic either.

Compare them to, say, Atreyu, or A Perfect Murder or Martyr AD, or any of the other generic metalcore bands out there. Is there a difference? Yes. Shadows Fall just excels at what they do.

They are refreshing and original. Quite a breath of fresh air for the tired, generic American Metal scene.

However, yes, they have taken a step down with TWW. TAOB was MUCH better.

[QUOTE=Cain]Heh, ok. Clearly I've made a few dents in your opinion of me, but based on what I have heard by Shadows Fall, I see no point in spending money on two albums that may be excellent examples of their kind of music when I know that decline has already set in, in much the same way that major league baseball teams don't want to hire a 40-year-old slugger just because five years ago they hit a lot of home runs per season.

EDIT: My main problem is the vocal style.[/QUOTE]

I don't like the new album. In fact, I don't even own it, not to mention I gave [I]The Art Of Balance [/I]away. I love [I]Of One Blood [/I]so much though, that album means so much to me. The entire album is great and ahead of it's time when it came out.

im sorry i though i came into opeth thread, this must be shadows fall thread

[QUOTE=whatduffhuck7]im sorry i though i came into opeth thread, this must be shadows fall thread[/QUOTE]

Did you honestly just post that to get us riled up?

Hey, I just noticed something else about the new site format.. try to say the "f-word".

[QUOTE=whatduffhuck7]im sorry i though i came into opeth thread, this must be shadows fall thread[/QUOTE]


So......I'm drunk, blaring [B]Black Rose Immortal [/B]out my window atm...\m/

[QUOTE=toaster135]Hey, I just noticed something else about the new site format.. try to say the "f-word".[/QUOTE]
Fuc[SIZE="3"]k[/SIZE]? Or Fa[SIZE="3"]g[/SIZE]?

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]Fuc[SIZE="3"]k[/SIZE]? Or Fa[SIZE="3"]g[/SIZE]?[/QUOTE]

The former.. actually print it with normal font though.

fusty walrus!

EDIT: :lol:

Clever...

Fuck.

EDIT: Tee hee.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

And [I]that's[/I] how you keep people from swearing.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]fusty walrus!

EDIT: :lol:

Clever...[/QUOTE]

It's been like that for months. Or at least weeks.

It's been like that ever since I can remember.

Now let's keep this an Opeth thread

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Now let's keep this an Opeth thread[/QUOTE]
Agreed, this whole page has been spam.


..So whats everyone's favorite song from BWP? :amaze: