haha nice!!

Yea, the buddy rich are a unique stick, I don't think that's the type of stick he played with though. IMO, having watched a lot of his playing.

The Jay Wanamakers are marching sticks of course. There's a ton of rad drumset sticks, I wish I could afford just a big rack with a bunch of different kinds and some different marching sticks too.

Haha would be so rad to have that!

Oh well...

like have a whole stick store next to your drums.
something for every occasion.

unique they are, the tips on those sticks are very odd, but i like that :)

Ya, it's more like a non-tip

couldnt have said it better myself.

So Jos, im just looking for another opinion on this matter.\

so i am getting a new crash, and i would like it to be a zildjian, to expand my brand horizons, since as of now i have paragongs all around and a wuhan splash.

so i was between the k custom hybrid 17" and the A fast 16"

so today at the store, i tried the fast crash, and i did not like it very much, it was, too.. thin for my liking.. and they did not have the hybrid in stock so i couldnt test it.

so just looking for another opinion on the subject matter.

Try out tons of crashes.. there's such a difference between those models. Just go around blindfolded and smack stuff if you have too.

And once you do find a cymbal you like, try and get 3+ versions of the same size/model in front of you to try out. Cymbals are all different, even within their own line.

Be sure to be using Your sticks when testing cymbals, and it's perfectly fine to bring some of your own cymbals with you to see how they blend into your 'cymbal' mix.

well, the thing is, i really dont want to "blend"

i need some diversity in my kit.

i was thinking more along the lines of a jazz crash, so that why i was looking at the k custom, but ive heard a lot about the fast crash, that it was supposedly good, but i had no particular liking for it.

When talking about high end cymbals, all are "good" and just as much "bad". They are all high end cymbals, it's just what other people like or don't like you are hearing about.

i was very mad that they didnt have the hybrid in stock though... i was looking forward to trying that one out. i tried the ride out, but i thought my paragon sounded 5 times better, IMO.

but, if it comes to me just hitting random cymbals to get the one i want, then ill do it, because im anxious :)

Hybrids are awesome man, so are Fasts, go try 'em out! :thumb:

You should buy what your ears like really... who cares what the brand.


There just happen to be brands and lines within those brands, who stand out to the majority of players as what "good" cymbal sounds should be like.

It's all about preferance man!!!! :thumb:

thnx man, this helped, im definately just going to take a trip on day for cymbals, and just sit in the store all day, annoy the clerks, until i find the prefect crash.

once i get this new crash, im gunna change my set up to a jazz style.

i really cant wait, ive just had the same setup, and cymbals for quit some time, so im very excited for a change.

New cymbals is always fun stuff

you can say that again, i remember when i got my paragons.

happiest day of my life.

Definatley.

So I want to play jazz.

No one in this town can teach me jazz effectively. Because nobody plays it. Should I wait a year 'till I get to Adelaide, or should I get some kind of book/dvd?

[QUOTE=TheBigMachine;13871858]Definatley.

So I want to play jazz.

No one in this town can teach me jazz effectively. Because nobody plays it. Should I wait a year 'till I get to Adelaide, or should I get some kind of book/dvd?[/QUOTE]

Start listening to it.... You will probably just pick up the stuff. when I immersed myself in alot of Jazz fusion I noticed me just ripping off peoples licks, then I wouldmake them my own.

I want to start up jazz too.
im going back to lessons for it though.

i dunno what adelaide is..


Yes!! Dont' wait for anyone else to learn! There's TONS of great jazz books, for starters grab 'Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer' and 'The Art of Bop'

Nobody in your town plays jazz?!?!?!?!? O.o What's happened to the world today?

this is also another reason i was looking into a jazz style type crash, other than diversity.

Small town I guess...

Depends on the kinda jazz I guess, I don't think you can really classify cymbals by genre... I've heard guys bust some wicked comping off china's in jazz, etc

then whats all of this stuff i hear in the cymbal finder, because everything there totaly contradicts what you just said.

how would a clear amb sound for snare side?

i'm not that good with heads, but prob. not so good, you'd want a snareside amb because you need thinner heads for that

ive heard that being used before, and i hated it.

im off to bed MX. CYAZ.




Led out.

Later dude.

[QUOTE=Josiah]i dunno what adelaide is..


Yes!! Dont' wait for anyone else to learn! There's TONS of great jazz books, for starters grab 'Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer' and 'The Art of Bop'[/QUOTE]

Lol it's a city in Australia. Good music scene.

Christmas money ftw, Ill order these books in. I've also got a video by Gregg Bissonette here, 'musical drumming in different styles'. Ill see how this goes also.

Thanks again.

PS: If anyone want's to suggest some good jazz, knowing that I've never listened to jazz before, go ahead.

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

I can reccomend some good jazz fusion albums =)

Check out Al DiMeolas Elegant Gypsy. Gadd drops beats so hard you'll have an asthma attack.

Tony williams Lifetime - Turn it over (You may need to be a little insane to enjoy this) :)

Shakti/Remember Shakti - Any album/live recording

Micheal Urbaniak - Fusion

Mahavishnu Orchestra - Inner mounting flame

Thats a few of my favorite albums, You can check out any artist within each group and you will probably find another 100 albums of amazing music.

EDIT: Goddamn Im a John Mclaughlin fanboy :(

Just got back from mammoth for two days of snowboarding. First day was pretty icy, but it snowed all that night making today pretty sweet with some fresh, deep powder.