first post :) well anyway, Ive been on a MAjOR floyd craze lately and i was wondering if any of you guys had more bootlegs to upload,id be realy grateful, ill trade you some of my PF boots if you want i have around 10-11 of them.

on a different note, whats your favorite song off animals? (ive been in a major animals mood lately)

[QUOTE=Flaminghotchino]Yeah that ascending guitar riff in fearless can't help but make you feel good.

Before I came to this thread I always thought meddle was really underated.. It's nice to see so many people that are aware of its greatnesss. For a very limited while I thought it might be my favorite Pink Floyd album, its still a very great record but I really only loved it that much because it was so fresh and new.

I still have yet to hear, FINAL CUT, ATOM HEART MOTHER, MORE, and OBSCURED BY CLOUDS. I could dl some tracks off of them...but I like to listen to PF albums in there entirety..[/QUOTE]

Meddle is one of my favouites. I wish it were longer though, it would have been cooler if they had more songs...and I don't often say that about Pink Floyd albums. For some reason Meddle just doesn't seem quite complete, it has a perfect beginning and end, and it doesn't have any bad songs, but I'd like maybe two more songs in the middle.

Meddle is amazing. Pillow of Winds and Fearless are just unbelievable.

[QUOTE=Prince of Darkness]I don't really want to find out about Syd. I'm more interrested in finding out more about the band's amazing career.

My one friend's brother has the book, but he doesn't let it leave his room.
[/QUOTE]
You will probably like it then. It has a lot of details about pre Floyd, Floyd(get it). He also talks a lot about the people behind Pink Floyd.

[QUOTE=PinkFloyd]That gets too complicated, all popular faces like : P , : D contain and colon and a letter capped. So : C is the logical next step to provide an owange mustashe man. You can keep yours and I'll keep mine, then we will see which moustashe man lives and which moustashe man dies....... :C[/QUOTE]
It is ON BITCH!!1 RAWR!!!
... :lol:


On a more serious note, I think I have just lost any remaining respect for Roger Waters. I happened to be browsing through a magazine section just a short while ago, and I happened upon Rolling Stone, and when I opened it up, I saw an interview with Roger Waters. ""Gee whilakers!" I thought to myself, expecting a good fluffy interview about what a good time he had at Live 8, and how SURPRISE! Pink Floyd is going to have a reunion tour, with free admittance, and their first stop will be in Rocky Mount, NC. And something about pigs flying on a cold day in Wisconsin...

Anyway, what I got was definitely NOT a fluffy interview, and definitely NO free autographed copies of The Wall and backstage passes to the first 1,000 people into the concert. Waters proceeded to pretty much thoroughly tear Gilmour's **** off in a completely uncalled for (and I'm sure bull****) claim that Gilmour (and Rick Wright :confused: ) were "insecure, and constantly told him that he sang off-tune and played bass badly". Oh sure, you dick, Rick trampled on [I]you[/I], thats why you kicked [I]him[/I] out of the band for not doing exactly your bidding to the letter. Oh, and apparantly the reason they weren't having a tour was because "I decided to just roll over if we had an argument during the recital for Live 8. I'm not gonna ****ing roll over for an entire ****ing tour" (yes, he said **** more than Zakk Wylde on a bender)

He proceeded to insult the post-himself Floyd by saying "Gilmour had turned Pink Floyd into a brand name, doing crap tour after tour in order to rake money" He had past insinuated that the post-himself Floyd was just a Gilmour solo project. Oh, really? What the hell do you call The Wall and The Final Cut? And anyways, last I checked, Nick and Rick were having a jolly good time with Gilmour fronting the band, unlike... well, you know where I'm going with all of this. What I'm trying to say is that Waters is an egotistical megalomaniacal ******* who needs to either forgive and forget the past and join Floyd again, or shut the hell up and leave them alone. It's not [I]your[/I] band anyore, you gave it up (and, might I add, pulled the "if I can't have it, noone can!" child-like tantrum that almost made Gimour, Mason, and Wright not be able to be Floyd anymore) He may be a lyrical genius, but he's still a prick.

Please address all flames to: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC
And no, those aren't exact quotes, I was paraphrasing. But if you read the interview, you can only agree that's what he was saying.

If Gilmour was in it for the money, why did he donate a lot of the profits to charity?

^^^more or less me thinking out loud

^Big Trav is disagree. Gilmour went on record saying that a big misconception of the public was the The Wall was a Water solo project. He claimed it wasn't. And Wright got kicked out of Floyd for many reasons. Mainly because he refused numerous times to come to the studio and record, and while Waters was recording material, Wright was in Greece on vacation. There's more detph to his arugments and its all too complicated to judge him IMO.

On a lighter note... :C

I can't believe Roger could screw Floyd like that.

Soemthing must of happened, another disagreement or something
Because I remember an early interview where he said he really enjoyed Live 8 and wouldnt mind making a new album and going on tour with the Floyd again.
It was all lovely.
Gilmour was interviewed at the same time, and said he is through with Floyd and Live8 was the LAST time.

This is some info I found about that concert in 1977 you might find useful

[B]With huge thanks to Wray Ellis, we have the pleasure in sharing with you his exclusive, unpublished pictures and memories of that fateful day in July 1977, when the Floyd hit Montreal's Olympic Stadium, when a fan was at the receiving end of a very unlikely Roger Waters souvenir, and a number of bricks were cemented into a particular Wall.[/B]

In July of 1977, I was 19 and already a seasoned Pink Floyd fan. When I spotted an ad for a bus charter to see Pink Floyd live in Montreal, I rushed to buy a ticket. I was studying photography in college so I decided to take my camera and make it a journalistic endeavor. I’d seen them before in Hamilton (1975) and I thought I knew what to expect. But when we arrived at Olympic Stadium, I realized that this show would be in a whole new league.
I snuck off the main pathway, gestured my way past a French-speaking security guard and found my way onto the field. Within seconds, I was at the foot of the stage with a completely unobstructed view. I thought I’d be with other photographers but I saw none. On my way through the crowd, I did see a guy wearing a large reel-to-reel tape recorder. It was a home deck modified with a battery pack and a neck strap. Two microphones poked out from his ball cap. At the time, I thought he must be some kind of nut. Today, I’d like to shake his hand.
I felt energized by the huge, excited crowd. At one point, we noticed a person standing high above the field on the rim of the roof. That must have been a thrilling sight! Right on time, the lights went down and Pink Floyd was on the stage.

[B]Sheep:[/B] As Roger Waters* began the signature bass intro, David Gilmour strapped on a pre-‘71, all-black Strat with white knobs and 2 white pick-ups. (A black pick-up was installed at the bridge position). I was surprised to see an extra player on stage. Snowy White, so my program said, played a black, 3 pick-up Les Paul. A fair player, Snowy added background under David’s crunchy solos. When the song finished, the first roar from the assembled 85-90,000 attendees was startling.
( * Thanks to Bjorn Riis ([url]www.gilmourish.com[/url]) who wrote to say he'd read that on this tour, the bass player on Sheep was Snowy - not Roger. After checking my negatives I found that the very first shots I took at this show do indeed show Snowy playing bass so he's quite right. Thanks Bjorn - and sorry for the mix-up.)

[B]Pigs On The Wing (Part 1): [/B] Roger doffed his signature Precision bass and put on headphones and an Ovation acoustic guitar. The crowd was a bit large for such a change in dynamics and there were whistles and shouts throughout the tune. Fighting feedback and constant shouting, he softly muddled through.

[B]Dogs:[/B] During that echoing, "Stone...stone...stone...", in the upper corners of the stage, consumer goods and people slowly inflated... an obese, pin-striped man and the front end of a Cadillac slowly puffed out. When the music came back in, the car hood opened up and inflated snakes burst out and hung down grotesquely. The crowd went nuts.

[B]Pigs On The Wing (Part 2): [/B] Again with headphones and his acoustic, Roger attempted to have a quiet moment with 90,000 of his closest friends. He tried several times to start but the din was unrelenting. When someone at the back let off a barrage of firecrackers, he lost it. He stopped and demanded that they go outside to let off their fireworks because people wanted to hear his tune. "I want to hear it", he concluded. The audience cheered in loud approval and the song resumed without further interruption.

[B]Pigs (3 Different Ones)[/B]: I was surprised when Roger picked up a black and white Strat and Snowy switched to bass. Of the four songs they’d played so far, Roger played bass on only one of them. The fireworks seemed to subside and a pig floated overhead as David played some of the best solos I’ve ever heard him play. They really burned during that tune! As the song wound down, and they were doing a quiet vamp, Roger became... demonic. He called into the audience and pointed at a kid somewhere off to my right - just in front of him. He called the kid up to the stage, like you would a dog. "C’mon boy... come back... all is forgiven... just a bit further... there’s a good boy..." I could see an exuberant teenager climb over the barricade and with the help of a roadie, he was lifted up to the edge of the stage. I’m sure he thought he was going to meet his idol... until Mr. Waters let fly with a wad of spit that was as remarkable for its volume as it was for its accuracy. "Sch-plaugh" - right in the kid’s face! Dazed, the kid was tossed, like garbage, back over the bars into the darkness. The song ended, the band retired for a 20-minute break and I was left trying to process what I had just seen.

[B]Shine On You Crazy Diamond (parts 1-5): [/B] This is my favourite tune of theirs so I was taking pictures like crazy here. David was playing a tobacco-burst Telecaster. It started off a bit shakily as David seemed a bit distracted and his playing suffered - briefly. I started to appreciate Snowy White a lot more during this song because he added some beautiful fills behind David’s soloing.

[B]Welcome To The Machine[/B]: Pretty much like the record.

[B]Have A Cigar[/B]: Not a highlight. David played rhythm and Snowy provided the solos, which tended to be fast, but extremely repetitive.

[B]Wish You Were Here:[/B] The intro was cool. Next to Nick’s drum kit, there was a transistor radio mounted with a microphone pointed into its speaker. Nick twisted the dial and stopped at local stations that were playing music he knew we’d hate. He stopped on Andrew Gold’s then-ubiquitous "Lonely Boy" and everyone booed. When he moved onto a Dinah Shore hit from yesteryear, suddenly "Lonely Boy" wasn’t so bad. Snowy played rhythm on an Ovation 12-string acoustic and David soloed on the Strat. David also attempted some vocal showmanship on a certain phrase but it came out rather badly.

[B]Shine On You Crazy Diamond (parts 6-9): [/B] This tune was both great and terrible. When David was on the steel guitar, he kept losing his place and had to regroup. Roger even made mention of this when he sang "Nobody knows where we are..." and then he was overcome with uncontrollable laughter and could hardly complete the lyric. It got better here though as some of the best moments for me happened with David belting out a wicked, extended solo. It was the last official song of the night. As it ended, the house lights came on and ninety thousand people immediately began to demand "more!"

[B]Money:[/B] After about 10 minutes, they returned to the sounds of coins and a cash register - which sent the audience into spasms. The house lights stayed on for the duration of the show. By this time, even the outwardly tranquil David Gilmour seemed irritated. The rear screen projector didn’t come on until well into the second verse. When it did come on, it caused spontaneous cheers, and an indignant, "It’s about time!" from Mr. G.


[B]Us & Them[/B]: (Second encore) While the crowd could accurately be described as a "beast", it was more noisy than dangerous. It was a huge party atmosphere - but they wanted more. Cries of "’Ostie - Pink Floy!!" came from the locals. Maybe this was misinterpreted because when they finally returned, Roger said they’d do a quiet one so they could "end this thing peacefully". (Never at any time did I see anything threatening, nor did I ever feel threatened - and I was right in the thick of it!) I’d already started inching my way back to the exits and when they came back on, I was right beside the soundboard so I remained there for the rest of the show. It was an odd scene - the rear projector on and smoke emanating - but the house lights were all on. When "Us & Them" ended, the roadies began to tear down the stage but the chants of "more... more..." and "’Ostie!!" continued.

[B]Blues[/B]: (Final encore) David never came back. I’ve read that he watched this song from the soundboard, but I was right there and I didn’t see him. While Snowy, Roger, Nick and Rick played the blues, roadies quickly tore down the equipment around them. By the end of the song, only Roger and Nick were left - Nick was down to just a snare drum and high-hat. Roger’s flat "Good-bye!" signalled the end of an unforgettable night.
It wasn’t the first time I’d seen Pink Floyd and it wasn’t the last. It was, however, the last time I’d see the line-up that I’ve come to believe is the best of their live incarnations. Now, nearly three decades later, I know it’s also the most significant concert I ever attended. Seems it was rather significant for Roger too.

i got bored so here
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[QUOTE=BigTrav415]It is ON BITCH!!1 RAWR!!!
... :lol:


On a more serious note, I think I have just lost any remaining respect for Roger Waters. I happened to be browsing through a magazine section just a short while ago, and I happened upon Rolling Stone, and when I opened it up, I saw an interview with Roger Waters. ""Gee whilakers!" I thought to myself, expecting a good fluffy interview about what a good time he had at Live 8, and how SURPRISE! Pink Floyd is going to have a reunion tour, with free admittance, and their first stop will be in Rocky Mount, NC. And something about pigs flying on a cold day in Wisconsin...

Anyway, what I got was definitely NOT a fluffy interview, and definitely NO free autographed copies of The Wall and backstage passes to the first 1,000 people into the concert. Waters proceeded to pretty much thoroughly tear Gilmour's **** off in a completely uncalled for (and I'm sure bull****) claim that Gilmour (and Rick Wright :confused: ) were "insecure, and constantly told him that he sang off-tune and played bass badly". Oh sure, you dick, Rick trampled on [I]you[/I], thats why you kicked [I]him[/I] out of the band for not doing exactly your bidding to the letter. Oh, and apparantly the reason they weren't having a tour was because "I decided to just roll over if we had an argument during the recital for Live 8. I'm not gonna ****ing roll over for an entire ****ing tour" (yes, he said **** more than Zakk Wylde on a bender)

He proceeded to insult the post-himself Floyd by saying "Gilmour had turned Pink Floyd into a brand name, doing crap tour after tour in order to rake money" He had past insinuated that the post-himself Floyd was just a Gilmour solo project. Oh, really? What the hell do you call The Wall and The Final Cut? And anyways, last I checked, Nick and Rick were having a jolly good time with Gilmour fronting the band, unlike... well, you know where I'm going with all of this. What I'm trying to say is that Waters is an egotistical megalomaniacal ******* who needs to either forgive and forget the past and join Floyd again, or shut the hell up and leave them alone. It's not [I]your[/I] band anyore, you gave it up (and, might I add, pulled the "if I can't have it, noone can!" child-like tantrum that almost made Gimour, Mason, and Wright not be able to be Floyd anymore) He may be a lyrical genius, but he's still a prick.

Please address all flames to: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC
And no, those aren't exact quotes, I was paraphrasing. But if you read the interview, you can only agree that's what he was saying.[/QUOTE]

God, that's awefull! Sure Water's was an increadable composer, but thats just terrible! Good lord he mananged to diss my favorite guitarist and one of my favorite keybordists. Still, I can still respect his composing, as he wrote most of my favorite album of all time. I would like to know about why he kicked Wright out (the other end of the argument that another poster pointed out.)

Oh, and, thanks Nobuo>>>>=God for the info about the concert. I had know idea Roger coxed the fan up on stage. I'm having trouble thinking of Pink Floyd as my favorite band right now. Looks like I'll be listening to a lot of The Who for a bit...

Edit: Oh, and thanks WheepingGuitar. :)

Roger Waters isn't a very nice guy. But I respect his talent tremendously.

WheepingGuitar, what is that?

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Roger Waters isn't a very nice guy. But I respect his talent tremendously.

WheepingGuitar, what is that?[/QUOTE]
One of these days, live in Pompeii.

it concentrates on a very different Nick Mason.

I dont know why Roger got a change of heart
He probobly got into an argumetn with Dave
I think Roger wanted to get Floyd started again, but Dave said it's over and he's through with it. So something must of happened to get Roger mad.
Anyway, Roger kicked Rick out because he felt he didnt need him.
Gilmour and Waters, while heavily in argument, were discussing actually kicking Wright AND Mason out and doing everything on the Wall themselves.

Dave and Roger are just two conflicting egos, year after year. It's no wonder they couldn't hold down a tour together, despite the fact they are both really quite philanthropic and probably genuinely nice to people.

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Dave and Roger are just two conflicting egos, year after year. It's no wonder they couldn't hold down a tour together, despite the fact they are both really quite philanthropic and probably genuinely nice to people.[/QUOTE]
True, but people are always going to assume that Roger was the worse of the two, because he was the one running the show.

[QUOTE=BigTrav415]It is ON BITCH!!1 RAWR!!!
... :lol:


On a more serious note, I think I have just lost any remaining respect for Roger Waters. I happened to be browsing through a magazine section just a short while ago, and I happened upon Rolling Stone, and when I opened it up, I saw an interview with Roger Waters. ""Gee whilakers!" I thought to myself, expecting a good fluffy interview about what a good time he had at Live 8, and how SURPRISE! Pink Floyd is going to have a reunion tour, with free admittance, and their first stop will be in Rocky Mount, NC. And something about pigs flying on a cold day in Wisconsin...

Anyway, what I got was definitely NOT a fluffy interview, and definitely NO free autographed copies of The Wall and backstage passes to the first 1,000 people into the concert. Waters proceeded to pretty much thoroughly tear Gilmour's **** off in a completely uncalled for (and I'm sure bull****) claim that Gilmour (and Rick Wright :confused: ) were "insecure, and constantly told him that he sang off-tune and played bass badly". Oh sure, you dick, Rick trampled on [I]you[/I], thats why you kicked [I]him[/I] out of the band for not doing exactly your bidding to the letter. Oh, and apparantly the reason they weren't having a tour was because "I decided to just roll over if we had an argument during the recital for Live 8. I'm not gonna ****ing roll over for an entire ****ing tour" (yes, he said **** more than Zakk Wylde on a bender)

He proceeded to insult the post-himself Floyd by saying "Gilmour had turned Pink Floyd into a brand name, doing crap tour after tour in order to rake money" He had past insinuated that the post-himself Floyd was just a Gilmour solo project. Oh, really? What the hell do you call The Wall and The Final Cut? And anyways, last I checked, Nick and Rick were having a jolly good time with Gilmour fronting the band, unlike... well, you know where I'm going with all of this. What I'm trying to say is that Waters is an egotistical megalomaniacal ******* who needs to either forgive and forget the past and join Floyd again, or shut the hell up and leave them alone. It's not [I]your[/I] band anyore, you gave it up (and, might I add, pulled the "if I can't have it, noone can!" child-like tantrum that almost made Gimour, Mason, and Wright not be able to be Floyd anymore) He may be a lyrical genius, but he's still a prick.

Please address all flames to: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC
And no, those aren't exact quotes, I was paraphrasing. But if you read the interview, you can only agree that's what he was saying.[/QUOTE]


[url]http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/7504168/pinkfloyd?pageid=rs.ArtistArticles&pageregion=mainRegion[/url]

theres the interview! or at least part of it

Anyone else learn the Time solo?

That things a bitch, it looks easy, but it's much harder than it looks.

Hey, Pink Floyd experts... The other I day, I heard that Division Bell was considered to be one of Pink Floyd's best albums musically. Is this true, and should I buy it?

[QUOTE=Dried Muffin Remnants]Hey, Pink Floyd experts... The other I day, I heard that Division Bell was considered to be one of Pink Floyd's best albums musically. Is this true, and should I buy it?[/QUOTE]
No you should not buy that album because it is a below average album.

[QUOTE=Shazzam]Anyone else learn the Time solo?

That things a bitch, it looks easy, but it's much harder than it looks.[/QUOTE]


I would have the most probllems witht he bending parts. I can't bend in tune to save my life :(

[QUOTE=thunderzstruck]I would have the most probllems witht he bending parts. I can't bend in tune to save my life :([/QUOTE]

Yeah, I consider myself an ok/good bender, but that solo is just hell.

[QUOTE=Shazzam]Anyone else learn the Time solo?

That things a bitch, it looks easy, but it's much harder than it looks.[/QUOTE]

That's actually one of Gilmour's solos that I can play (correctly) the whole way through. It's also really cool when you turn up the distortion and delay.

[QUOTE=Shazzam]Anyone else learn the Time solo?

That things a bitch, it looks easy, but it's much harder than it looks.[/QUOTE]

I feel i've got it pretty much down.

I don't do it with delay. Usually with Fuzz, actually :)

[QUOTE=Six Foot Revolver]No you should not buy that album because it is a below average album.[/QUOTE]
No.

Get The Division Bell. Lyrically it is sub par, but musically it is still great.

[QUOTE=Six Foot Revolver]No you should not buy that album because it is a below average album.[/QUOTE]

Meh, it had a few good songs on it (High Hopes is as good as it got post Waters) but most of it isn't too good.

As to the Time solo, the chances of me learning it any time soon are pretty low. I actually haven't been playing guitar too long.

[QUOTE=Shazzam]Anyone else learn the Time solo?

That things a bitch, it looks easy, but it's much harder than it looks.[/QUOTE]
I just learned it. I didn't think it was too bad, honestly. That part when you slide up an octave, and are playing all high up... it sounds killer with some delay.

Also, The Division Bell rocks. Buy it.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I just learned it. I didn't think it was too bad, honestly. That part when you slide up an octave, and are playing all high up... it sounds killer with some delay.

Also, The Division Bell rocks. Buy it.[/QUOTE]

It is harder than it looks though. You have to put some emotion into the playing, otherwise it doesn't sound "right."

[QUOTE=satchforever]It is harder than it looks though. You have to put some emotion into the playing, otherwise it doesn't sound "right."[/QUOTE]


You can't put "emotion" into playing.