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Darkness 10-14-2005 09:26 PM

Gene is still a really sweet drummer, he nails Martins parts with little difficulty. Maybe he couldn't compose them, but he sure can play them. He won't butcher Dam[I]n[/I]ation, don't worry. He played To Rid the Deisease fine when I saw them.

Toaster 10-14-2005 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Argh....that's what I was afraid of. Unfortunately, Lopez was a member of a very special elite of heavy metal drummers who actually know the meaning of the words "dynamics" and "groove."
[/QUOTE]


:eek: Did you just make fun of Gene Hoglan? He is the man. I met him actually, after a Strapping Young Lad concert. He's mountainous.

If you've seen the video for "Ghost of Perdition" you'll know what I'm talking about.

Darkness 10-14-2005 09:26 PM

The Grand Conjuration*

RouteOne 10-14-2005 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]*shrug* got me. I'd ask how anyone could dislike "Baying of the Hounds" or "Harlequin Forest," but I seem to be alone here in thinking that GR is an amazing album. :([/QUOTE]
I enjoy "baying of the hounds". I personally wouldn't call it a amazing album, but I would certainly call it a good album.

Toaster 10-14-2005 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]The Grand Conjuration*[/QUOTE]

Haha I cannot believe I put that.

*hangs head in shame*

RouteOne 10-14-2005 09:33 PM

"Mist ripples round your thin white neck
And draws me a line
Cold fingers mark this dying wreck
This moment is mine"


I always get chills when I hear that line.




Post your favorite Opeth lines.

Darkness 10-14-2005 09:34 PM

All of The Moor, all of BWP, lots of By the pain I see in others...

ah screw it, it'll take to long. Mikeal is a great lyricist.

Toaster 10-14-2005 09:35 PM

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]I enjoy "baying of the hounds". I personally wouldn't call it a amazing album, but I would certainly call it a good album.[/QUOTE]

I think the album as a whole is too "light". It doesn't really show the whole of what Opeth can accomplish emotionally. Harlequin Forest is the weakest song IMO. Akerfeldt even said he stole the whole opening sequence off an obscure Swedish song (which I have been totally unable to find).

RouteOne 10-14-2005 09:37 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]I think the album as a whole is too "light". It doesn't really show the whole of what Opeth can accomplish emotionally. Harlequin Forest is the weakest song IMO. Akerfeldt even said he stole the whole opening sequence off an obscure Swedish song (which I have been totally unable to find).[/QUOTE]
Yeah...well I just hope their next album is an improvement upon this one...

Darkness 10-14-2005 09:38 PM

Hm.. whats gotten into Mikeal? He's always stressed being really unique, always trying to sound different, never ripping anything off... but now its like... really different then that. I bet if the old Mikeal heard us talk about how they use similar rhythms often and that kind of stuff, he'd flip out.

Kaiwaz 10-14-2005 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]*shrug* got me. I'd ask how anyone could dislike "Baying of the Hounds" or "Harlequin Forest," but I seem to be alone here in thinking that GR is an amazing album. :([/QUOTE]


Hey now. I love [I]The Baying Of The hounds[/I], and [I]Reverie/harlequin Forest[/I]. It's the album as a [U]whole[/U]. I like 3 songs off that album. That's it. I think I let off the wrong impression on my feelings about [I]Ghost Reveries[/I].

RouteOne 10-14-2005 09:39 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Hm.. whats gotten into Mikeal? He's always stressed being really unique, always trying to sound different, never ripping anything off... but now its like... really different then that. I bet if the old Mikeal heard us talk about how they use similar rhythms often and that kind of stuff, he'd flip out.[/QUOTE]
A rumor maybe?

Plus most musicians get ideas from other songs all the time, so you can't really blame him if he did it, really.

Kaiwaz 10-14-2005 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]A rumor maybe?

Plus most musicians get ideas from other songs all the time, so you can't really blame him if he did it, really.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, that's true. But to sound unique, you have to take what you've learned, and harness that with your own creativeness.

Darkness 10-14-2005 09:40 PM

Then explain the use of similar rhythms and song formulas on the past few records.

Kaiwaz 10-14-2005 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Then explain the use of similar rhythms and song formulas on the past few records.[/QUOTE]


Which records?

RouteOne 10-14-2005 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Then explain the use of similar rhythms and song formulas on the past few records.[/QUOTE]
Well I don't know. All bands sometimes have songs that seem similar to past ones.

Darkness 10-14-2005 09:43 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Then explain the use of similar rhythms and song formulas on the [B]past few[/B] records.[/QUOTE]
The past few have probably been my favorite, but some of the songs on D-nation have quite the similar formula, as an example.

Kaiwaz 10-14-2005 09:43 PM

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]Well I don't know. All bands sometimes have songs that seem similar to past ones.[/QUOTE]


Yes. That's true. But, Opeth doesn't sound like anyone. There's a solo on GR that sounds like I've heard it before, other then that, It's all original to me.

Toaster 10-14-2005 09:43 PM

One would hope a band like Opeth would keep reinventing itself. A band gets boring once it starts to stagnate. They are a very different band than they were when they released Orchid.. not so much change from Still Life to Ghost Reveries.

Toaster 10-14-2005 09:44 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]The past few have probably been my favorite, but some of the songs on D-nation have quite the similar formula, as an example.[/QUOTE]

Thank you! The amount of undeserved love that album gets really irks me.

RouteOne 10-14-2005 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]The past few have probably been my favorite, but some of the songs on D-nation have quite the similar formula, as an example.[/QUOTE]
I didn't really notice that about D-nation. It doesn't matter though, d-nation is a brilliant album.

Kaiwaz 10-14-2005 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]One would hope a band like Opeth would keep reinventing itself. A band gets boring once it starts to stagnate. They are a very different band than they were when they released Orchid.. not so much change from Still Life to Ghost Reveries.[/QUOTE]


[I]Orchid[/I] is so legendary and ahead of it's time. The record company couldn't decide what genre it was. :lol:

Darkness 10-14-2005 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]Thank you! The amount of undeserved love that album gets really irks me.[/QUOTE]
Hey don't get me wrong, I really enjoy that album. But some of the songs are pretty formuletic, and are all fairly basic riff wise.

RouteOne 10-14-2005 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn][I]Orchid[/I] is so legendary and ahead of it's time. The record company couldn't decide what genre it was. :lol:[/QUOTE]
Seven mile stones....


\m/

Kaiwaz 10-14-2005 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]Seven mile stones....


\m/[/QUOTE]


omg I love that song




''in mist enrobed the twilight, she was standing...''

Darkness 10-14-2005 09:48 PM

Now were back to the stuff Cain was talking about. "OMG I LOVE THAT SONG" for the 4000th time. :p

RouteOne 10-14-2005 09:49 PM

D-nation is definetly one of the best mellow albums ever made. Stop the hate.

Kaiwaz 10-14-2005 09:49 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Now were back to the stuff Cain was talking about. "OMG I LOVE THAT SONG" for the 4000th time. :p[/QUOTE]


Don't be negative. :) It's a great song.

Toaster 10-14-2005 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]D-nation is definetly one of the best mellow albums ever made. Stop the hate.[/QUOTE]

:( I wish I could love it like everyone else. It just seems so standard, like very little effort went into it. Most of the songs don't take any unexpected turns, none of the instrumentation is very complex (IMO), and Mikael's vocals are off in some places.

I actually liked Deliverance way better.

Darkness 10-14-2005 09:53 PM

Theres some unexpected turns, like Closure for example. I really enjoy the D&D set, and I find them both underrated in Opeth land. :)

And no, Mikeals voice is perfect on that album. This is fact. :D :lol:


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