listened to a couple songs from exoplanet earlier and idk, i dont hate it, which surprised me, breakdowns were fuckin punishing

It's an interesting mix of styles. How xtuffx are these vocals bro? :p

because thats my opinion as a music listener, deal with it

Okay, you don't like the breakdowns, cool, that's your opinion, that doesn't mean that they're not thoughtfully written into the songs, a la, use of the term [i]filler[/i].

And deal with it, what a profound argument. You are the Zeus of critical thinking, truly.
[QUOTE=Gangrene;18162261]wow asserting opinion as fact, you win I lose[/QUOTE]

How is that an opinion?

"So much better jazz fusion out there,"

So much better jazz fusion than what? I'm assuming you're talking about the Contortionist, because otherwise that makes zero sense in the context.

So yeah, once more, that's not my opinion, that's just the literal meaning of what you said.

So now we've come to the conclusion that you don't even know what the word [i]opinion[/i] means, along with [i]contradiction[/i]. Would you like any more English lessons, Brent?

are we STILL arguing with brent about the contortionist

also did he just call this album jazz fusion

I just explained the literal meaning of what I said over 9000 times but you will not quit

[QUOTE=Luc214;18162282]are we STILL arguing with brent about the contortionist[/QUOTE]

he refuses to stop and goes around in circles

Yo, you just ignored Ethan's question.
[QUOTE=Gangrene;18162284]I just explained the literal meaning of what I said over 9000 times but you will not quit[/quote]
No, you explained what you meant to say and refuse to realize that, "so much better jazz fusion out there," is implying this is jazz fusion.

And why the fuck should I care, because you back pedaled and called it jazz fusion as soon as you thought someone was agreeing with you... contradicting yourself the third time on this single issue thus far, and now we're on like 10.

So do you think it's jazz fusion or not? Cause at this point I don't even think you know.

The issue is, I've destroyed every single argument you've made against this album, and you continue to call me stupid for not understanding your 5th grade level composition, get your head out yo ass son.

This will stop when you finally admit that your criticism of the album is extremely unformed, and haphazardly composed.

how is this jazz fusion

djent/prog metal inspired deathcore or gtfo

at this point I don't even know if you're mentally stable

I've said it has jazz fusion elements since the beginning and still do, I'm done with this

whether you refuse to accept what I'm saying is your problem not mine

Way too many post-rock segments to ignore.

I'd call it djent/prog/deathcore influenced post metal at this point.

these problems matter

all this over a shit -core band that tries to be prog

watered down prog is watered down

Yo, I thought you were done. There's another contradiction.

Also, [I]watered-down[/I] doesn't translate to "Brent doesn't get it," sorry bro.
[QUOTE=Gangrene;18162308]at this point I don't even know if you're mentally stable[/quote]
And I'm the one who projects, really?

I've said it has jazz fusion elements since the beginning and still do, I'm done with this[/quote]
Which is why the direct quotes of your words blatantly call it jazz fusion.

[quote]whether you refuse to accept what I'm saying is your problem not mine[/QUOTE]

Once more, what are you talking about? You've completely ignored everything else I've said except this, and even so you're being too bullheaded to understand simple English.

[QUOTE=Gangrene;18162311]tries to be[/QUOTE]

how is this different than anything you listen to then

goddammit guys

direct quotes = parts of an entire quote taken out of context

this album is really not important enough for this much bitching over esp when it's one user against the board fuck even juddy doesn't hate it so lets stfu and have a semi intelligent convo about Converge before silverfang jumps in and gets his fanboi jizz everywhere

Dude, that's so out of context, you'll see that if he puts unrelated ideas on either side of it your argument is suddenly false.

[QUOTE=Luc214;18162315]how is this different than anything you listen to then[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="7"][B]FUCKING BREAKDOWNS IN EVERY GOD-DAMN SONG [/B][/SIZE]
z

[quote=gangrene;18162320][size="7"][b]fucking breakdowns in every god-damn song [/b][/size]
z[/quote]

[size="7"][b]fucking sweeps in every god-damn song[/b][/size]

[QUOTE=Gangrene;18162318]direct quotes = parts of an entire quote taken out of context[/QUOTE]

I already fucking addressed this. The FULL quote doesn't make the lone statement any different, it's a bunch of poorly worded ideas haphazardly thrown together in a directionless paragraph of inaccurate criticisms.

[QUOTE=Luc214;18162317]this album is really not important enough for this much bitching over esp when it's one user against the board fuck even juddy doesn't hate it so lets stfu and have a semi intelligent convo about Converge before silverfang jumps in and gets his fanboi jizz everywhere[/QUOTE]

quoted for pageturn holla pg 420 btw

[QUOTE] it's a bunch of poorly worded ideas haphazardly thrown together in a directionless paragraph of inaccurate criticisms.[/QUOTE]

and it's your duty to complain about it for days

congratulations

[IMG]http://i52.tinypic.com/2dmeg6a.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Gangrene;18162325]and it's your duty to complain about it for days

congratulations[/QUOTE]

Actually, I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out why you're wrong. You're the one who's so angry and self-righteous that they're misusing simple literary terms like [i]logic, contradiction, opinion,[/i] and [i]context[/i].

deeds of flesh doesn't sound forced guys

And seriously Brent, you can't get all sarcastic and smug when you look this retarded. Well, I mean you can, but it just makes you look even more retarded.

Defense mechanism much?

[QUOTE]you mention jazz fusion only and not the space themed music and ambient aspects parts. Not once did I say this is just jazz fusion. You're just interpreting it the wrong way and making absolutely nothing into a colossal argument

I'm saying there's much better jazz fusion out there because there is, why listen to parts of bad jazz fusion when I can listen to entire albums of GOOD jazz fusion

so stfu and crawl into your basement[/QUOTE]

^^^
I did not say your point was moot, if you want to interpret my quote the wrong way go ahead.
[QUOTE]
Actually, I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out why you're wrong. You're the one who's so angry and self-righteous that they're misusing simple literary terms like logic, contradiction, opinion, and context.[/QUOTE]

cool bro

let me know when you understand the concept of quote mining

until then its ignore list

Yeah man, I'm the one who's butthurt.
[quote]you mention jazz fusion only and not the space themed music and ambient aspects parts. Not once did I say this is just jazz fusion. You're just interpreting it the wrong way and making absolutely nothing into a colossal argument[/quote]
How does the mention of space music mean that you didn't call this jazz fusion.

Also, please stop fucking trying to pretend that, "so much better jazz fusion out there," without elaborating on the point doesn't imply you think this is jazz fusion.

[quote]I'm saying there's much better jazz fusion out there because there is,[/quote]
But you didn't call it jazz fusion.

[quote]why listen to parts of bad jazz fusion when I can listen to entire albums of GOOD jazz fusion[/quote]
Because there's negligible fusion influence and this isn't a fusion album?

[quote]so stfu and crawl into your basement [/quote]
How about I go have a social life for you to envy.

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;18162189]

P.S. you don't look incredibly butt hurt siding with the guy getting made fun of just because you desperately want to overshadow another user for some weird reason.
[/QUOTE]

Deep bro.:cool:

I'm not butthurt or trying to overshadow you.

Of course ppl are gonna side with you, ppl in this thread ride your nuts hard, cause you're awesome at deathcore.

Also, can someone point me out to the POST ROCK PARTS?

I rly wanna lol at a deathcore band doing post rock.

You're not an obvious troll at all. What with your troll avatar and obvious noob tactics.

The only reason you could possibly disagree with me here is because: A) you're trying to troll, B) you're butthurt and want to disagree with me, or C) you're fucking deaf.

I already know Brent falls under categories B & C, where do you stand H&D?

changing accounts, how cute

I am so envious of your white trash family, your white trash friends, and your mental instabilities

no matter if a courthouse ruled you beat me in this argument, you still lose at life

alright we get it the new contortionist is a great jazz fusion album stfu

im gonna fucking fight everyone i swear to fuck

this is NOT the deathcore thread i know and love

[QUOTE=Gangrene;18162348]changing accounts, how cute[/quote]
Acting smug when you lost an argument you put so much time an effort into, not a defense mechanism at all.

[quote]I am so envious of your white trash family[/quote]
LOL WHAT? My dad's an Engineer, three of my siblings are doctors, my one sister is a Lawyer, and my brother's about to go to med school. We live in a big house in the suburbs and my mom drives a Mercedes.

[quote]your white trash friends[/quote]
lol? Salisbury is the smallest school district in Allentown, and has the second most funding to Parkland, which is the second largest school district in Allentown.

All of my local friends went to Parkland and Emmaus, which fall in above and directly below Salisbury, aka, suburban kids with rich parents.

[quote]and your mental instabilities[/quote]
Disagreeing with you and pointing out where you contradict yourself is a mental instability now?

[quote]no matter if a courthouse ruled you beat me in this argument, you still lose at life[/QUOTE]
Why, because I have a social life and actually put thought into the things I say?

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;18162347]You're not an obvious troll at all. What with your troll avatar and obvious noob tactics.

The only reason you could possibly disagree with me here is because: A) you're trying to troll, B) you're butthurt and want to disagree with me, or C) you're fucking deaf.

I already know Brent falls under categories B & C, where do you stand H&D?[/QUOTE]

Troll avatar?

Point out the POST ROCK PARTS plz:chug:

How about you just listen to the album, it's not like it's a subtle element or anything.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzVRo5B1PrQ[/url]

last couple pages make me wish i were fuckin dead lol