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The Transporter 11-19-2010 09:49 AM

worst part about being in a band is that most people can only "play" their instruments and don't actually know shit about music

Papa Shank 11-19-2010 09:53 AM

[QUOTE=The Black Fist;18278735]>send pieces in mail with ransom demands
>doesn't pay ransom
>keep sending pieces with more ransom demands
>over time he recollects entire drumkit

flawed logic is flawed

Lending friends hundreds of dollars is a bad call. My buddy owed me $350 for like 3 years after I bought him a guitar and I eventually had to do the hostage situation and wow was he mad but I got my money and we're still friends

actually he's the guy that this drummer cunt owes most of his money to because he bailed him out

the easiest part of being in a band is making music, the rest of the grotesque politics that go along with it are the real headaches. Why do you have to LIKE the people you play with it's not fair[/QUOTE]

I didn't say you should send him all the pieces Davey boy, just a few with maybe pictures and an audio/video recording for proof of life. Push comes to shove just sell whatever crap of his you have to the value of what he owes.

GuitarBizarre 11-19-2010 10:10 AM

[QUOTE=Papa Shank;18278755]I didn't say you should send him all the pieces Davey boy, just a few with maybe pictures and an audio/video recording for proof of life. Push comes to shove just sell whatever crap of his you have to the value of what he owes.[/QUOTE]

Something tells me you haven't thought this through, who would buy a kit with bits missing?

Blue_Moon 11-19-2010 10:12 AM

money money moneyeeeeeeeeeee in a rich mans worlddddd

[img]http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/alsfotos/alwtf.jpg[/img]

The Black Fist 11-19-2010 10:28 AM

no the worst part about being in a band is that you wish everyone would quit trying to be creative and just play the parts you recorded

okay maybe that's just how it works in my band

e.g. this drummer we're booting. Fucking love his style, really jazzy syncopated stuff, but he's so ADHD that he never plays the songs the same way twice and so while he's off putting the accents in weird places and fucking with the snare placement we can't tell if he's fucking up or if he's being jazz. So I'll compensate, the bassist will keep going like normal, the singer gets completely fucked up and we sound like ass

damn creative douchebags

fingers mccoy 11-19-2010 10:31 AM

that's not creative that's being a shitty undisciplined drummer

The Black Fist 11-19-2010 10:40 AM

undisciplined yes

shitty... well being undisciplined and unable to keep a band together with you is the definition of a shit drummer so yeah you're right

EmbraceRandom 11-19-2010 11:11 AM

[QUOTE=The Black Fist;18278785]...we can't tell if he's fucking up or if he's being jazz[/QUOTE]

:lol:

Bruce E Kinesis 11-19-2010 01:47 PM

[QUOTE=EmbraceRandom;18278599]To be fair, Labour have done [I]a lot[/I] of good things for this country but their fuckups over the last 15 years seem to overshadow their triumphs. Kinda like Liverpool FC (and that's coming from a Liverpool (and Blackpool) fan!).[/QUOTE]

Minimum wage, high participation in higher education, decent healthcare... Great. But I do not want any government to think they can ever get away with taking us to war based on lies again. Ever.
[QUOTE]
This is a problem with politicians, not specific parties. When questioned, they never address their shortcomings, they only drag up all the past shortcomings of the person/party asking the question. Instead of saying what they will do to fix the problem, they say what the other parties wouldn't do. Fuck them all, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

Partly the press's fault. Politics is like the polar opposite of science.

Try something, find it doesn't work, keep doing it anyway because the press will crucify you for a "u-turn"

[QUOTE]
I'd agree with you and say the Tories would come out with the most votes again, but I very much doubt they would accumulate the same amount as votes as they did in the general election. In fact, I'd go as far to say that less people would vote than in the last general election, because people are starting to lose faith in politics. The last 3 general elections ('01, '05 and '10), although steadily increasing in turnout, have had the lowest average turnout in the last 60 years. So I think (and hope) that if there was another general election, it would be hung again. I love to see a complete political revolution because I don't really like the current system. You vote for someone to make all your decisions for you. You should be able to make your own, via referendums on [I]all[/I] major (and some 'minor') decisions. Then the country and the individual would be making the decisions, not those that sit atop the pyramid.
[/QUOTE]

It'd be nice if we could be a bit more like the scandinavian countries politically. I think most of these problems could be solved with proportional representation, but people are idiots (look how this coalition turned out! /facepalm) and those in power won't pass laws to give it up...

[QUOTE]Yeah, grim is the word. It annoys me that we call this a democracy, yet there's realistically only two parties with a real chance. And as I said, whilst they may have radically different [I]policies[/I], their frame work and underlying philosophy is capitalist, so they're practically all the same.[/QUOTE]

You can certaintly say that labour is more socialist than con in my opinion, but the idea that the "price" of socialism is not higher taxes but the erosion of people's human rights and the right of the government to go to war on a yank-fellating whim disgusts me.

purple_hazer 11-19-2010 03:00 PM

[QUOTE=The_Mop;18278591]Wasn't really any slip ups from him.. honestly, I think this is the only time I've ever seen a pro drummer mess up so frequently - kept speeding up and missing snare notes and doing dodgy fills. Very strange.[/QUOTE]

lack of heroin, feelin a little sick

Junooni 11-20-2010 02:18 AM

page 420 guys!

:smoke:

jaklyons 11-20-2010 07:02 AM

[IMG]http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6315/dsc00444h.jpg[/IMG]

lol huge picture

EmbraceRandom 11-20-2010 01:49 PM

you broke my page. it burns.

EmbraceRandom 11-20-2010 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=Bruce E Kinesis;18279018]Minimum wage, high participation in higher education, decent healthcare... Great. But I do not want any government to think they can ever get away with taking us to war based on lies again. Ever.[/quote]
Yeah I totally agree with you on that. I'm amazed there isn't nationwide public referendums for things like that. I think think a good majority of our public would have said no. I certainly don't believe in it, in my opinion our government should have grown the balls to tell Bush to fuck off

[quote]Partly the press's fault. Politics is like the polar opposite of science.

Try something, find it doesn't work, keep doing it anyway because the press will crucify you for a "u-turn"[/quote]
Maybe it is partly their fault, but fuck em. The entire industry is filled with devil's advocates. They love nothing better than exacerbating things. So why are they still such a major power in society? This would be a very different country/world without the venomous speculation and general bullshit spewed by the media.

[quote]It'd be nice if we could be a bit more like the scandinavian countries politically. I think most of these problems could be solved with proportional representation, but people are idiots (look how this coalition turned out! /facepalm) and those in power won't pass laws to give it up...[/quote]
For me though, those in power are only human. So what separates them from anyone else? 'Power' is abstract, they have nothing palpable over you, me or anyone else in this country. If enough of the public wanted change, and I mean [I]revolutionary[/I] change, the 'ethereal', illusive nature of their power would become apparent.
"Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The queen is their slave."

[quote]You can certaintly say that labour is more socialist than con in my opinion, but the idea that the "price" of socialism is not higher taxes but the erosion of people's human rights and the right of the government to go to war on a yank-fellating whim disgusts me.[/QUOTE]
The Labour of old was [I]more[/I] socialist, but for me, no current major party represents anything near left-wing politics.

FlamingCouch 11-21-2010 12:11 AM

Hey guys so I don't want to make a new thread and I also want to be one of those assholes who doesn't read anything and just posts so

I'm playing with an old band mate at his parents' cottage and today I noticed some major fucking buzzing going on. Like extremely audible to the point that I got scared.

Assuming it could be either guitar or amplifier ('62 RI Fender Jazzmaster and Roland Jazz Chorus 50W respectively) or just cables/pedals what should I be looking for? Ideas for tracing or whatnot. For what it's worth my guitar goes home with me but the Jazz Chorus sits at the cottage when we're done as well as the effects. And the cottage gets cold (wood heat). I'm assuming it could just be my fucking moron powers through the roof in that I'm leaving gear to get cold but I need some advice. Any real srs stuff will be acknowledged and thanked. Even though I'm guessing I should just throw out that JC and Jazzmaster and get a marshall stack and a squier bullet amirite.

Bruce E Kinesis 11-21-2010 01:21 AM

Are your canadian electronics as shit as those south of the border? Is everything grounded properly by law?

Were you running FX in the FX loop? Daisy chaining?

Give us something to work with man!

FlamingCouch 11-21-2010 01:35 AM

On the hairy amp drooling.

OK, guitar into dist. dist linked to tuner. tuner linked to delay, delay linked to flanger, linked to wah which plugs into the amp. I don't have a loop pedal and this was after I killed all the effects and was running clean.

I_am_the_one 11-21-2010 03:21 AM

[QUOTE=FlamingCouch;18280910]
I'm playing with an old band mate at his parents' cottage and today I noticed some major fucking buzzing going on. Like extremely audible to the point that I got scared.

Assuming it could be either guitar or amplifier ('62 RI Fender Jazzmaster and Roland Jazz Chorus 50W respectively) or just cables/pedals what should I be looking for? Ideas for tracing or whatnot...[/QUOTE]

Without being there to see your setup, it's hard to tell, but it could be related to crappy power source or outlet, electromagnetic interference or RF related interference, combined with the pups in your guitar can all be causing some of your buzzing problems.

So, check all your connections, try repositioning gear, try plugging your gear into other outlets, and if your using a power bar, try plugging one item at a time into it to see what might be causing the buzzing sound, that includes fans and lights, other gear, etc...as more than one amp or items plugged on the same power bar can cause problems, and maybe the power bar is defective? Make sure that fans and all lights are turned off when testing everything as even a small night light or desk light can cause some buzzing problems...

And don't forget to check all your cables for kinks/damages as this will cause or allow a lot of RF noise through...

jaklyons 11-21-2010 07:24 AM

[QUOTE=FlamingCouch;18280992]guitar into dist. dist linked to tuner. tuner linked to delay, delay linked to flanger, linked to wah which plugs into the amp.[/QUOTE]

Quick tip - that chain is all wrong (not that there is any "right" way as such; you can have your pedals however you like).

Generally, if you're sticking all your pedals in front of the amp, you'd want to go: [I]Guitar -> Tuner -> Wah -> Distortion -> Delay -> Flanger -> Amp[/I]. If your amp has an effects loop, it's a good idea to put delay/modulation effects there.

guitarbaz 11-21-2010 07:31 AM

gaming issue resolved.

replacement ps2 bought on ebay for 20 quid.
off into town to get wii now.

job done.

EmbraceRandom 11-21-2010 07:36 AM

[QUOTE=jaklyons;18281117]Quick tip - that chain is all wrong (not that there is any "right" way as such; you can have your pedals however you like).

Generally, if you're sticking all your pedals in front of the amp, you'd want to go: [I]Guitar -> Tuner -> Wah -> Distortion -> Delay -> Flanger -> Amp[/I]. If your amp has an effects loop, it's a good idea to put delay/modulation effects there.[/QUOTE]

Going off this axiom (although as you pointed out, there is no right way), surely you'd put the delay after the flanger? Modulation before time-based and spatial effects.

I could be completely wrong, I've never had loads of pedals and most of my 'knowledge' comes from production rather than live setups, which has its downfalls...

Bruce E Kinesis 11-21-2010 11:11 AM

There's some that are right/wrong but as with the distortion/wah debate that one is purely a matter of the result being two different effects

wobbled delay is just straightup different to delayed wobble

EmbraceRandom 11-21-2010 11:14 AM

I once tried mixing a lead guitar part with the opposite series to what is considered 'the right way' to do it.
Sounded incredible.

The_Mop 11-21-2010 11:39 AM

Listening to Depeche Mode. That is all.

Bruce E Kinesis 11-21-2010 11:44 AM

There's a powerful use of distortion-after-reverb on one of the Silver Mt Zion albums, can't remember which one of the top of my head. Think the song was on "Born into Trouble..."

GOT IT

The name of the song is "Could've moved mountains" and the guitar part is at just before 8 minutes and it sounds so beautiful with the jewish singing and the tremolo and the Oh My.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkD5MMs1Gsg

GuitarBizarre 11-21-2010 11:55 AM

Motherfuckers. That is all.

Bruce E Kinesis 11-21-2010 01:01 PM

Motherfucker = redeemer (Tiny silver hammers?)

McP3000 11-22-2010 07:59 AM

im actually listening to gy!be right now

FlamingCouch 11-22-2010 09:13 AM

Bruce and McP are now my heroes. And yeah, as far as chaining it right I've heard that time and time again; I really can't be bothered to fix it. I'm happy with the sound as it is - all I'm worried about is the buzzing as it's never buzzed that loud. But I will try the plug-in test and whatnot today - also I'll plug into the 10 watt right off the hop to see if the amp could be to blame. Thanks guys for tips.

The Black Fist 11-22-2010 09:54 AM

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7731756/My%20Hero%20121110b.mp3 sup guys i covered my hero am I cool yet

Berner 11-22-2010 09:59 AM

[QUOTE=FlamingCouch;18282885]Bruce and McP are now my heroes. And yeah, as far as chaining it right I've heard that time and time again; I really can't be bothered to fix it. I'm happy with the sound as it is - all I'm worried about is the buzzing as it's never buzzed that loud. But I will try the plug-in test and whatnot today - also I'll plug into the 10 watt right off the hop to see if the amp could be to blame. Thanks guys for tips.[/QUOTE]


Could be a shitty power source. Do you have a power conditioner? I highly recommend it. They are awesome.

Papa Shank 11-22-2010 12:12 PM

[QUOTE=The Black Fist;18282929]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7731756/My%20Hero%20121110b.mp3 sup guys i covered my hero am I cool yet[/QUOTE]

I'm afraid you're still Canadian.

FlamingCouch 11-22-2010 12:27 PM

[QUOTE=Berner;18282933]Could be a shitty power source. Do you have a power conditioner? I highly recommend it. They are awesome.[/QUOTE]

What is this power conditioner of which you speak, Sir? As in one power source to all of the pedals? in which case I am certainly using some kind of Power All something or other. Would the cold have anything to do with this? As I'm a real cunt to my amp and effects leaving them in a cold house and not taking them home as I am with the Jazzmaster.

Also were you quite psyched that BHP didn't get to reel (49% of) Potash Corp in, as I was?

and in third place Bruce and McP were my heroes because of Godspeed/SMZ references, which I forgot to mention/I am getting my highway one stratocaster repainted this week. should be awesome.

jaklyons 11-22-2010 12:47 PM

[QUOTE=FlamingCouch;18283145]What is this power conditioner of which you speak, Sir? As in one power source to all of the pedals?[/QUOTE]

No.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_conditioner[/url]

Blue_Moon 11-22-2010 01:05 PM

Well, Ireland's fcked :(

Goverment on the brink of collapse and need 60,000,000,000 or so :)

uh ohs!

FlamingCouch 11-22-2010 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=jaklyons;18283167]No.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_conditioner[/url][/QUOTE]

woah. Looks ridiculous. Will check this out a bit further before too long as well.

@ Blue moon: yeah, the whole economy is fucked these days.

Berner 11-22-2010 01:38 PM

[QUOTE=FlamingCouch;18283145]Also were you quite psyched that BHP didn't get to reel (49% of) Potash Corp in, as I was?[/QUOTE]


Yeah. Fuck those guys.

The Transporter 11-22-2010 01:52 PM

[quote=The Black Fist;18282929]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7731756/My%20Hero%20121110b.mp3 sup guys i covered my hero am I cool yet[/quote]
i'm wondering if you actually enjoy this type of music or if you're just trolling us all

FlamingCouch 11-22-2010 02:36 PM

Berner: I hear you man. Oh let's just let everyone come in, buy out our companies and export them? yeah fuck that noise.

is the my hero in question the Foo Fighters song?

EmbraceRandom 11-22-2010 03:41 PM

[SIZE="6"]HOLY DIVER![/SIZE]

Lol Killswitch video


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