Well, a bright and large china is kind of a contradiction. Larger chinas tend to be darker and trashier. I'd suggest looking into the Evolution O-Zone crashes or the A Custom Effects crash. 18" or 20" is probably your best bet.

The Z Custom 20" I tried today was extremely bright.

I would've bought it as it was only $105 used... but then I found the crack.

V_V

*sighs*

I guess we can't get that amazing deal every day.

Dang, that sucks. I hate it when that happens.

When I was referring to the china i was talking about how explosive they are and they have a fast decay, not the trashy darkness although I am looking for a second crash like that too. Any ideas there?

pretty sure vault and a custom crashes are as bright and glassy as they get, so check them out.

Went out today bought an 16" a custom and 16" AAX ozone and they both are amazing.

What style of music do you play? What are your preferences in sounds?

My favourite hi hats are:

all the mastersounds (a a custom and k)
2002 S edges
k hybrid hats

14" A New Beats are easily some of the most versatile hats on the planet.

If you only play louder music, you may want to look into the A (Custom?) Mastersounds.

If you play stuff more along the lines of jazz most of the time, take a look at the K Custom Hybrids hi-hats (13.25", but because of the unlathed bell they're louder than even 14" K hats).

[quote=crazyguy832;15765594]14" A New Beats are easily some of the most versatile hats on the planet.

If you only play louder music, you may want to look into the A (Custom?) Mastersounds.

If you play stuff more along the lines of jazz most of the time, take a look at the K Custom Hybrids hi-hats (13.25", but because of the unlathed bell they're louder than even 14" K hats).[/quote]

hybrids don't have an unlathed bell.

2002's of any kind
AAX studio
AA Sizzle(I have them and LOVE them)
K Hybrid
K light

All good hats lol

[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;15765989]hybrids don't have an unlathed bell.[/QUOTE]
*looks at my hybrids*

Ermm....

*looks at Zildjian's website*

[QUOTE=Zildjian - 11" Hybrid splash]Designed with Akira Jimbo to combine brilliance and darkness. Thin Crashes and Splashes project like heavier cymbals due to the [b]un-lathed bell.[/b][/QUOTE]

it actually does jay

He was talking about something more along the lines of this for a lathed bell:

[IMG]http://www.drumrock.com/forum/uploads/00000082_SA5-Vault%20Hats.JPG[/IMG]

It's a bad example but you can still see how the lathing on the bow of the cymbal continues to the bell.

fair enough. My bad.

i just assumed that shiny = lathed.

[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;15768319]fair enough. My bad.

i just assumed that shiny = lathed.[/QUOTE]

Shiny = shiny. Lathed = lathed. Shiny =|= lathed.

ugh nobody play k hybrids seriously they suck and akira jimbo plays them god ew

^^^
lol wut!?

o_O

Back on topic, Hybrids pwn.

\m/>_<\m/

[QUOTE=Drummerbabe;15763542]kool, im ment to be getting new hi-hit cymbals this year 2008 what cymbals would you say is the best for a 14-hi-hit :-)[/QUOTE]

what kinds of sounds are you looking for? what styles of music do you play? do you just practice by yourself in a basement?

[QUOTE=Drummerbabe;15773131]hay ppl[/QUOTE]
hai

DrummerBabe go to the stronghold for posts like that.

HAs anybody had any experience with Byzance cymbals. If so, what is your opinion?

Im looking into the 18" medium thin crash and the 16" china.

I own the 13" Dark hats and 18" Dark crash.

Pure sex.

Buy them.

I wouldnt be getting the dark ones, but the traditional ones which sound great. Thansk for your opinion though. :)

[QUOTE=Orely;15777243]HAs anybody had any experience with Byzance cymbals. If so, what is your opinion?

Im looking into the 18" medium thin crash and the 16" china.[/QUOTE]

What kind of music do you play and why you looking at those specific cymbals?

[QUOTE=MisurCanavi;15777686]What kind of music do you play and why you looking at those specific cymbals?[/QUOTE]

I will be mostly be playing alt. rock. Im thinking of those because they have the sound I was looking for. Im just asking for opinions about them. :p

I don't have anything against them. They SHOULD fit right in with a general alt. rock setting. In my opinion they are better live than in the studio, but what do I know.

Anybody have experience with Paiste 2002 chinas, mainly the 20"? I'm looking for a really versatile china, not too dark, but not overly bright.

The novo is bright the thins are said to be very dark. Try the china medium bright

**** i havent been here on a while.
i ordered an A custom medium ride 20" , but those idiots at the music store ordered me the wrong one; an A Custom ride 20". i think its a piece of crap

any thoughts on the medium ride?