How long you been boxing for mate.

[QUOTE=Squirrel;18275960]How long you been boxing for mate.[/QUOTE]

Since September, and only regularly since a month ago or so but people seem to think I've been boxing longer... lol, I take it as a compliment. I'm at a measly 172lb and I'm still bigger than these guys, coach wanted me to get down closer to 140lb ffs... stuff that I'm going to get back into the weights and aim for 190lb by March, I'll finally get to eat proper portion sizes again! :D

How about yourself? How're you keeping yourself busy these days mate?

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In other news - saw Deftones in leeds last night, was proper awesome. Drummer made quite a few fuckups though...[/QUOTE]

Fucker. Apparently Chino is sucking hard live atm though.

[QUOTE=benfan;18275738]Well it serves the students right for voting for 'New Government' and the Lib Dems/Tories anyway. Seriously what did they expect, so they have sold out the next generation of students by jumping on the i hate Brown bandwagon and using a 'protest Vote'[/quote]
Nah I don't agree with that at all mate. It's not the students' fault. For the record, I didn't vote Lib Dem. But I don't think [I]all[/I] students voted Lib Dem to protest against Labour, people vote for the party they want in. The Lib Dems sought the student vote, with all their promises. Now they've coalesced with the Tories, they haven't compromised with them, they've bent over!

[QUOTE=benfan;18275738]And i would much rather see the Government get rid of the ridiculous benefit state and get rid of all the scumbag dole-claiming smack head idiots than look at the Royal Family.[/quote]
Aye it's a massive problem, and currently the job centre is proving as efficient as it was 10-20 years ago. Not [I]all[/I] people who claim dole are scum though. That's why there has to be a 'fine-tooth comb' form of discretion when handling this. Tbh, a lot of people are annoyed with the decision to force the jobless into manual jobs to encourage their zeal for work, but I'm not sure, I think I actually like that idea. Yeah, it's a bit right-wing, but something needs to be done...

[QUOTE=benfan;18275738]I think it gives us a national identity, especially when looking at us from another countries point of view.[/quote]
Yeah I get that. Like I say, I do actually like the monarch.


[QUOTE=benfan;18275738]EDIT: 123 on the Monarch thing. When we have a King it should be compulsory that he should be on a horse whenever people take his photo and carry a sword with him at all times. Also, I think we should build more Castles.[/QUOTE]
Definitely. There can never be enough castles.

[QUOTE=benfan;18275738]Well it serves the students right for voting for 'New Government' and the Lib Dems/Tories anyway. Seriously what did they expect, so they have sold out the next generation of students by jumping on the i hate Brown bandwagon and using a 'protest Vote'

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Are you an idiot?

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Awesome sauce. Surgical-esque precision and incredible clarity, and that's just at a compressed format.

just realised i totally forgot to vote

[QUOTE=fingers mccoy;18276969]just realised i totally forgot to vote[/QUOTE]

You steal kievs but don't vote? You sicken me.

I voted Labour. The LibDems were clearly just trying to grab as many votes as they could to give them some political weight to throw around and they chose the students.

The Job Centre is the worst run institution I have ever known. I'm not saying it's a bad institution, I'm just saying that it isn't working as well as it should at the moment. My friend is currently working 20-25 hours a week at a Blockbuster store and apparently that's enough to pay the rent for him and his girlfriend, pay all the bills, and keep them alive for each month, because his mrs has just been told she can't have any more JSA.

The monarchy does bring in significantly more than they use in tax. I like the monarchy because it's a part of our identity. I like to think it's what separates us from the republic states of the EU and the USA.


In other news I've only just got around to watching the F1 from Sunday and I have to say that although my order for whom I'd have preferred to have won the championship was Hamilton, Webber, Alonso, Vettel, Red Bull and Vettel thoroughly deserve the wins. They've been excellent all season and it was a fantastic season all round.

Later Lod. Back in a week.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18276992]I voted Labour. The LibDems were clearly just trying to grab as many votes as they could to give them some political weight to throw around and they chose the students.[/quote]
Their tuition fees policy was always going to be unrealistic in the current economic situation. Students aren't (and indeed weren't) asking for an abolition of tuition fees, just for them not to take the current cap off because it isn't fair. So the Lib Dems turned around and said "hold on students, we can go one better; if you vote for us, we won't just keep the cap in place, we'll abolish tuition fees altogether!!!![SIZE="1"]....over six years[/SIZE]". Unfortunately, a number of people called their bluff without realising they were doing so.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18276992]The Job Centre is the worst run institution I have ever known. I'm not saying it's a bad institution, I'm just saying that it isn't working as well as it should at the moment. My friend is currently working 20-25 hours a week at a Blockbuster store and apparently that's enough to pay the rent for him and his girlfriend, pay all the bills, and keep them alive for each month, because his mrs has just been told she can't have any more JSA. [/quote]
It's more the fact that 10-20 years ago, you could leave a job, walk into a job centre the next day and have a job the following day (or at least a series of interviews). Now it's a complete bureaucracy with no sense of discretion that separates those that are trying their hardest from those that have no zeal for work and would love to continue living off the taxpayer and never contribute to society. Two extremes, maybe, but they've failed to even distinguish between those!

Viva la revolution, that's what I say.

[QUOTE=spirit;18276966]Are you an idiot?[/QUOTE]

Not at all and i think my comment is a pretty valid one. Drawing from my experience of conversations i had with students i know at the time, it seemed as though they were all brainwashed by the media and had this self righteuous attitude towards the whole thing. Maybe i shouldnt of generalised as much though, im speaking from my experience with the people from my area.

Anyone wanna buy this off me?

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Really don't want to sell this, but, needs must.

[QUOTE=benfan;18277003]Not at all and i think my comment is a pretty valid one. Drawing from my experience of conversations i had with students i know at the time, it seemed as though they were all brainwashed by the media and had this self righteuous attitude towards the whole thing. Maybe i shouldnt of generalised as much though, im speaking from my experience with the people from my area.[/QUOTE]

That's kind of the thing though, there are a lot of students that I know whom voted for the likes of the libdems or, more specifically up here, the SNP. I think a current student would have to be a moron to vote Tory, unfortunately my experience of most students where I am is that they are indeed quite stupid.

[QUOTE=Papa Shank;18277021]That's kind of the thing though, there are a lot of students that I know whom voted for the likes of the libdems or, more specifically up here, the SNP. I think a current student would have to be a moron to vote Tory, unfortunately my experience of most students where I am is that they are indeed quite stupid.[/QUOTE]

*Who

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18277022]*Who[/QUOTE]

Indeed.

[QUOTE=benfan;18277003]Not at all and i think my comment is a pretty valid one. Drawing from my experience of conversations i had with students i know at the time, it seemed as though they were all brainwashed by the media and had this self righteuous attitude towards the whole thing. Maybe i shouldnt of generalised as much though, im speaking from my experience with the people from my area.[/QUOTE]

i think most of them would use the word 'misled' rather than 'brainwashed' and they wouldn't singularly inculpate the media.

to be honest i was planning to vote purely for the person i liked the most - brown.

[QUOTE=Papa Shank;18276004]Since September, and only regularly since a month ago or so but people seem to think I've been boxing longer... lol, I take it as a compliment. I'm at a measly 172lb and I'm still bigger than these guys, coach wanted me to get down closer to 140lb ffs... stuff that I'm going to get back into the weights and aim for 190lb by March, I'll finally get to eat proper portion sizes again! :D

How about yourself? How're you keeping yourself busy these days mate?[/QUOTE]

Well I used to box, did so for a few years, was unbeaten as a competitive amateur. Into Muay Tuay and jiu Jitsu these days cause im gonna compete in mma. Well, thats the plan!

140lbs for your height would be insane, you're 5'11 arent you?

[QUOTE=fingers mccoy;18277124]i think most of them would use the word 'misled' rather than 'brainwashed' and they wouldn't singularly inculpate the media.

to be honest i was planning to vote purely for the person i liked the most - brown.[/QUOTE]

At least it was fun when he was in charge. The giant scrotum looking idiot.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18276992]I voted Labour. The LibDems were clearly just trying to grab as many votes as they could to give them some political weight to throw around and they chose the students. [/QUOTE]

I wouldn't have voted labour even if the LDs hadn't existed; I would've abstained. "not being the tories" does not excuse the fact they left me with fewer human rights, and probably could have afforded their generous welfare programs if we hadn't had to spend all our money on two fucking pointless wars

[QUOTE=benfan;18277003]it seemed as though they were all brainwashed by the media[/QUOTE]

"The poor students were brainwashed!"

One party were actually supporting things I liked; human rights, welfare programs, etc... So I voted for the party promising what I wanted. It sickens me that all of a sudden people are saying "OH MY GOD I'M NEVER VOTING LD AGAIN, PLEASE LABOUR LET ME BACK INTO YOUR WARM EMBRACE" when they introduced the fucking things (hindsight: fair shout, it was the cost of opening up uni education)

I didn't vote, because I'm not on the electoral register. I feep on forgetting.

I wouldn't have voted properly this election anyway, I would have probably voided my slip.


So in reality, I have no right to a say about the upcoming changes.

I'm a bit of a monarchist.

i can vote

but i never do, cant be arsed, they're gonna fuck it up whoevers in charge

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[QUOTE=Bruce E Kinesis;18277585]I wouldn't have voted labour even if the LDs hadn't existed; I would've abstained. "not being the tories" does not excuse the fact they left me with fewer human rights, and probably could have afforded their generous welfare programs if we hadn't had to spend all our money on two fucking pointless wars

"The poor students were brainwashed!"

One party were actually supporting things I liked; human rights, welfare programs, etc... So I voted for the party promising what I wanted. It sickens me that all of a sudden people are saying "OH MY GOD I'M NEVER VOTING LD AGAIN, PLEASE LABOUR LET ME BACK INTO YOUR WARM EMBRACE" when they introduced the fucking things (hindsight: fair shout, it was the cost of opening up uni education)[/QUOTE]

Labour fucked up more than enough, so it's hypocritical of Labour MPs to question the Liberal Democrats on recent events. What's even more annoying is that, instead of the LD actually answering the questions being put to them, they just list all the problems with Labour.

I'm no hypocrite so I deserve answers.

Even with all Labour's mistakes, fuckups and changes of heart (btw I agree the wars are pointless but that was Blair, there [I]definitely[/I] should have been a referendum), out of the three major parties, they were still better for me, perhaps in some cases it's better the devil you know. What I have learnt from everything over the last 15 years though, is that they're all the same and only vary mildly in the grand scheme of things; they're all capitalist.

If you are LD follower, are you not concerned at all that you might have been lied to just as the students were, but the policies you care about just haven't come to light yet? They promised one thing and are doing the complete opposite; what's to say they won't do that for all of their policies?

The Liberal Democrats are dead, but then I guess "you have to live before you die young".

i voted labour for years. and then gordon cocknose brown weasled his way into leadership. so i stopped.

[QUOTE=EmbraceRandom;18277634]Labour fucked up more than enough, so it's hypocritical of Labour MPs to question the Liberal Democrats on recent events. What's even more annoying is that, instead of the LD actually answering the questions being put to them, they just list all the problems with Labour.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. They don't even bring up any of the good they've done (precious little that it is)

[QUOTE]Even with all Labour's mistakes, fuckups and changes of heart (btw I agree the wars are pointless but that was Blair, there [I]definitely[/I] should have been a referendum), out of the three major parties, they were still better for me, perhaps in some cases it's better the devil you know. What I have learnt from everything over the last 15 years though, is that they're all the same and only vary mildly in the grand scheme of things; they're all capitalist.
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My problem was that they refused to acknowledge any mistakes. They promised another 5 years of the same problems.

[QUOTE]If you are LD follower, are you not concerned at all that you might have been lied to just as the students were, but the policies you care about just haven't come to light yet? They promised one thing and are doing the complete opposite; what's to say they won't do that for all of their policies?[/QUOTE]

They didn't win, to be fair; but I'm uncomfortable with what they've made possible.

One thing to consider: the conservatives could easily afford to fight another election. Labour and the LDs absolutely could not. If LDs let the current government collapse, the consequence would be a straight tory majority, however shit they are.

[QUOTE]The Liberal Democrats are dead, but then I guess "you have to live before you die young".
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Yeah, who was it that said "they've had a go in power, now they can go back to being irrelevant for another 100 years". Grim stuff.

[quote=Sad But True;18276951]Fucker. Apparently Chino is sucking hard live atm though.[/quote]

Wasn't really any slip ups from him.. honestly, I think this is the only time I've ever seen a pro drummer mess up so frequently - kept speeding up and missing snare notes and doing dodgy fills. Very strange.

[QUOTE=Bruce E Kinesis;18278554]Exactly. They don't even bring up any of the good they've done (precious little that it is)[/quote]
To be fair, Labour have done [I]a lot[/I] of good things for this country but their fuckups over the last 15 years seem to overshadow their triumphs. Kinda like Liverpool FC (and that's coming from a Liverpool (and Blackpool) fan!).

[QUOTE=Bruce E Kinesis;18278554]My problem was that they refused to acknowledge any mistakes. They promised another 5 years of the same problems.[/quote]
This is a problem with politicians, not specific parties. When questioned, they never address their shortcomings, they only drag up all the past shortcomings of the person/party asking the question. Instead of saying what they will do to fix the problem, they say what the other parties wouldn't do. Fuck them all, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Bruce E Kinesis;18278554]They didn't win, to be fair; but I'm uncomfortable with what they've made possible.
One thing to consider: the conservatives could easily afford to fight another election. Labour and the LDs absolutely could not. If LDs let the current government collapse, the consequence would be a straight tory majority, however shit they are.[/quote]
I'd agree with you and say the Tories would come out with the most votes again, but I very much doubt they would accumulate the same amount as votes as they did in the general election. In fact, I'd go as far to say that less people would vote than in the last general election, because people are starting to lose faith in politics. The last 3 general elections ('01, '05 and '10), although steadily increasing in turnout, have had the lowest average turnout in the last 60 years. So I think (and hope) that if there was another general election, it would be hung again. I love to see a complete political revolution because I don't really like the current system. You vote for someone to make all your decisions for you. You should be able to make your own, via referendums on [I]all[/I] major (and some 'minor') decisions. Then the country and the individual would be making the decisions, not those that sit atop the pyramid.

[QUOTE=Bruce E Kinesis;18278554]Yeah, who was it that said "they've had a go in power, now they can go back to being irrelevant for another 100 years". Grim stuff.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, grim is the word. It annoys me that we call this a democracy, yet there's realistically only two parties with a real chance. And as I said, whilst they may have radically different [I]policies[/I], their frame work and underlying philosophy is capitalist, so they're practically all the same.

still can't believe it's the same lod

sup mx

go fuck a goat Dave

[QUOTE=The Black Fist;18278672]still can't believe it's the same lod

sup mx[/QUOTE]


Sup.

At work a half an hour early, fun fun. Kinda down time at work currently anyways.

[QUOTE=motogrifo;18278674]go fuck a goat Dave[/QUOTE]

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trying to kick my drummer out of the band but wanting to collect the hundreds of dollars in rent he owes for our rehearsal space that we covered him for. Ideas that don't consist merely of breaking his legs go

[QUOTE=The Black Fist;18278688]trying to kick my drummer out of the band but wanting to collect the hundreds of dollars in rent he owes for our rehearsal space that we covered him for. Ideas that don't consist merely of breaking his legs go[/QUOTE]


Has he left his drums there? If so, take them and hold them until he pays.

taking inspiration from the douchebags in a band I left we were thinking of changing the locks on him and holding all his shit hostage. But that's quite a douche move, we don't want the guy to TOTALLY hate us. Well maybe the other guys do but I still like the guy

I'm clearly going to be the one to deal with this as I'm like Mufasa with these dummies

i'd go the hostage route.

i'm currently holding a guitar that belongs to a mate who owes me several hundred. silly him let me borrow it...

I don't think I've ever owed someone more than a tenner. I've certainly never BEEN owed more than 200, and that was from family, so I knew for damn sure I was getting it back.

As far as lending money to friends...I've never lent anyone more than about £30 at a time.

lent someone 300 quid once and got it back in increments, never owed more than about 15 i don't think

i owe my friend €20

i was out once and forgot to go to an atm so he gave me some $$ the thing is i rarely see him and he lives far away, ill give it back to em one of these days, usually i never owe anyone anything

[QUOTE=Squirrel;18277137]Well I used to box, did so for a few years, was unbeaten as a competitive amateur. Into Muay Tuay and jiu Jitsu these days cause im gonna compete in mma. Well, thats the plan!

140lbs for your height would be insane, you're 5'11 arent you?[/QUOTE]

MMA doesn't seem to get a lot of attention up here but I like guys like Bas Rutten, they're practical and if you've heard him talk he sounds like a decent guy and has a bunch of crazy stories to boot. Yeah, I'm 5'11" so even being a semi-lean 78kg feels a bit light for me, especially as I have long arms.

And Dave, take the equipment hostage and then send him pieces of it in the mail with the ransom demands.

>send pieces in mail with ransom demands
>doesn't pay ransom
>keep sending pieces with more ransom demands
>over time he recollects entire drumkit

flawed logic is flawed

Lending friends hundreds of dollars is a bad call. My buddy owed me $350 for like 3 years after I bought him a guitar and I eventually had to do the hostage situation and wow was he mad but I got my money and we're still friends

actually he's the guy that this drummer cunt owes most of his money to because he bailed him out

the easiest part of being in a band is making music, the rest of the grotesque politics that go along with it are the real headaches. Why do you have to LIKE the people you play with it's not fair

Oh man and I thought my band had issues. Our biggest thing is our other guitar player sucks at dialing in good tone.