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Jev 05-23-2006 05:18 AM

Malmsteen what?

The DVD sounds amazingly sexy.

Chu 05-23-2006 05:34 AM

You know how some guy made a video of Petrucci's Lie Solo?
There's a rip at Malmsteen too :p

I guess he's got a problem with shred?

I wouldn't really call the Lie solo shred (Well, the legato run at the beginning of the solo, but sif that makes the whole thing shred).

Jev 05-23-2006 05:42 AM

Oh right. I'm gonna look for it.

Chu 05-23-2006 08:32 AM

Heh, [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZzBkC4G-qE&search=john%20petrucci]this[/url] is pretty cool.

Jev 05-23-2006 09:10 AM

Haha, I remember that video, only because I was playing at the time and a string snapped and ended up in my finger.

ghettoeddo 05-23-2006 11:00 AM

there's nothing wrong w/ shred imo if its used sparingly and well.

methinks petrucci likes it just a tad too much. he's still one of my favorite guitarrists though

Jev 05-23-2006 11:03 AM

I thought it wasn't needed on things like the Hollow Years improv and Through Her Eyes on SFNY.
Otherwise, keep the shred coming.

jpshortstuff 05-23-2006 11:09 AM

i think it was quite good on hollow years on L@B, but yeah THE was going a bit far.

ghettoeddo 05-23-2006 01:02 PM

agreed.
it was ok on hollow years...but i think it would've been better if it hadn't been there.

his vibrato amazes me. it's so clean.

temporary 05-23-2006 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]I thought it wasn't needed on things like the Hollow Years improv and Through Her Eyes on SFNY.
Otherwise, keep the shred coming.[/QUOTE]

Personally, I think that the improv on Hollow Years is a perfect example of how shred can be used well. Same goes for Another Day.

Lord Abortion 05-23-2006 02:29 PM

Yeah, the hollow years bit is amazing, comes into the song flawlessly.

Blue Collar Man 05-23-2006 05:28 PM

Here's the Michael Romeo one if anyone wants to see it:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu-Ukl2rmE8[/url]

Unfortunately the Malmsteen one was removed.

Jev 05-23-2006 05:36 PM

:lol:
Wasn't as funny as the Petrucci one though, he's getting better :p

Atica 05-23-2006 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=Blue Collar Man]Here's the Michael Romeo one if anyone wants to see it:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu-Ukl2rmE8[/url]

Unfortunately the Malmsteen one was removed.[/QUOTE]

OK this was very funny and very well done too. :p I hope to see Malmsteen's soon.:)

nowitzki 05-23-2006 06:17 PM

Um... no.

Blue Collar Man 05-23-2006 06:21 PM

Wtf was that about?

Anyway what about Dream Theater?

Atica 05-23-2006 06:25 PM

I was listen DT right now and came up with this question, which i can't still answer. What song do you like more A Cahnge of Seasons or Octavarium?

Blue Collar Man 05-23-2006 08:53 PM

I like Octavarium better personally. I actully don't think I like ACOS quite as much as everyone else seems to. It just doesn't seem up to par with thier other epics but I still love it. Octavarium on the other hand is more gripping to me and full of more lushious melodies and moods.

Chu 05-23-2006 11:38 PM

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]there's nothing wrong w/ shred imo if its used sparingly and well.

methinks petrucci likes it just a tad too much. he's still one of my favorite guitarrists though[/QUOTE]
Meh, imo Petrucci does't shred enough...

ghettoeddo 05-24-2006 12:04 AM

^ are you joking? it's pretty much all he does ><

i prefer 8vm more over ACOS myself at this point. although another world and razor's edge are tied as overall favorite sections.

Chu 05-24-2006 12:06 AM

Asif he does.

Or maybe we just have different definitions of shred, Yngwie is someone who shreds all the time, Petrucci shreds, but not enough.

Jev 05-24-2006 04:44 AM

He shreds enough in my opinion. We don't need more, I struggle to play the songs as they are.

Chu 05-24-2006 05:30 AM

Damn, I love it...

I want more Erotomania's god damnit.

*Sigh* ... Maybe just another Awake... :smoke:

Edit: Mmm.. Listenning to Overture 1928 from LSFNY... Mmmm :drools:

Jev 05-24-2006 06:04 AM

If he wrote more solos like the Erotomania one, that'd be great.

Enlighten Me 05-24-2006 09:07 AM

[QUOTE=Chu]Damn, I love it...

I want more Erotomania's god damnit.

*Sigh* ... Maybe just another Awake... :smoke:

Edit: Mmm.. Listenning to Overture 1928 from LSFNY... Mmmm :drools:[/QUOTE]

Overture 1928 is probably my favorite DT instrumental, and imo Jordan's best keyboard solo.

Jev 05-24-2006 09:10 AM

The piano bits in that & Strange deja vu are amazing.

Mr.Metalton 05-24-2006 09:10 AM

i dont know about u guys but i think they need to make another liquid tension album.

Jev 05-24-2006 09:30 AM

It'll never happen. :(

ThunderBass 05-24-2006 09:40 AM

have they completely canned LTE? its probably old news but i live under a rock... :)

and yeah, Overture 1928 and Strange Deja Vu are 10 of the best minutes in music around...

ghettoeddo 05-24-2006 11:54 AM

[QUOTE=ThunderBass]have they completely canned LTE? its probably old news but i live under a rock... :)

and yeah, Overture 1928 and Strange Deja Vu are 10 of the best minutes in music around...[/QUOTE]

yea they've canned LTE for now.

NP: biaxident-LTE

overture 1928 is my favorite instrumental as well. it's actualyl pretty playable also. im not even gonna try and play any ToT songs...

ghettoeddo 05-24-2006 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=Chu]Asif he does.

Or maybe we just have different definitions of shred, Yngwie is someone who shreds all the time, Petrucci shreds, but not enough.[/QUOTE]

this is true. this is true.
i'd change that to say "yngwie is someone who shreds all the time, Petrucci shreds just not as much."
not enough and not as much are 2 different things :smoke:

Chu 05-24-2006 11:31 PM

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]this is true. this is true.
i'd change that to say "yngwie is someone who shreds all the time, Petrucci shreds just not as much."
not enough and not as much are 2 different things :smoke:[/QUOTE]
Well it's both, not as much, and not enough! :smoke:

Edit: I really love Petrucci's mastery(?) of the fretboard, I wish he would release a Yngwie-esque style shred CD.
Listenning to anything by LTE, DT or JP, the second JP begins a Lead/Riff, I just get so excited, even if it's a song I've heard x^10 times, each time I listen to it, I pick up on something subtle that I missed out on before.

I really like John Petrucci as a guitarist, I think if I had to pick a biggest influence, technique-wise it would be JP, I have studied his technique so much, and my own technique is derived heavily from his...

I heard people calling Suspended Animation a shred album when it first came out, well yeah it has glimpses of shred, but it's pretty far from a full blown shred album imo (My mum enjoys Suspended Animation, my mate's enjoy Suspended Animation, but put on a song which is played by say Yngwie, and they hate it).

Inkstar 05-24-2006 11:39 PM

>_>

I'm really starting to dig 8vm more now. The title track is really blowing me away, and I'm progressing into loving the other songs.

Moses 05-24-2006 11:41 PM

I'd say Petrucci is probably one of the best guitarists when he tries to put some emotion in his solos. There was an improv solo at Gigantour last year at the end of In The Name Of God, and it was probably one of the best and most emotional solos I've ever heard. I don't really like his shredding though, it's just too exact.

Octavarium is probably their best really really long song to me. It takes a while to kick in but when it does it's really awesome.

ghettoeddo 05-25-2006 12:35 AM

[QUOTE=Moses]I'd say Petrucci is probably one of the best guitarists when he tries to put some emotion in his solos. There was an improv solo at Gigantour last year at the end of In The Name Of God, and it was probably one of the best and most emotional solos I've ever heard. I don't really like his shredding though, it's just too exact.

Octavarium is probably their best really really long song to me. It takes a while to kick in but when it does it's really awesome.[/QUOTE]

glad to see some petrucci fans on thsi forum.
it's the "in" thing to bash him just because he's somewhat good :rolleyes:
no matter what people say, the man plays w/ so much soul...they relaly haven't heard the variety of his solos if all they say is "he shreds."

and to whomever said "he's too exact in shredding", since when was precision a bad thing? :confused: i thought precision was a good thing all the time. unless you're talking like...free-flow hendrix-ish dealio

octavarium is my favorite epic. more so than ACOS and LTL.

Moses 05-25-2006 12:55 AM

Well, Petrucci's shred just sounds like needles. It's okay sometimes but most of the time it's just annoying. I'd rather hear his soul.

Petrucci actually playing > Petrucci Shred

That's all I'm really saying.

ghettoeddo 05-25-2006 01:32 AM

hokay :smoke:

i agree w/ that too. and he most defiitely can actually "play."

Lord Abortion 05-25-2006 02:08 AM

I prefer AOCS to 8VM, personally.

There's not enough times I can listen to the former in a day I like it so much.

Chu 05-25-2006 02:43 AM

[QUOTE=Moses]Petrucci actually playing > Petrucci Shred

That's all I'm really saying.[/QUOTE]
Definately, but the man can make some pretty good shred....

Enlighten Me 05-25-2006 03:13 AM

[QUOTE=Moses]Well, Petrucci's shred just sounds like needles. It's okay sometimes but most of the time it's just annoying. I'd rather hear his soul.

Petrucci actually playing > Petrucci Shred

That's all I'm really saying.[/QUOTE]


I don't know why so many people bash Petrucci, to me he is awsome, shred or not.
lol, yeah the As I Am solo sounds like needles.


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