What do the Z Custom Chinas sound like?

Good.

^^^
Yup.

Like hitting a huge plate glass window with a solid gold baseball bat.

They've got a quick bite with insane volume and just the right level of trash.

^ be best tapping the corner. Thats the weakest spot

Looking for some dark heavy cymbals
 

i read the beginin of dis thread nd heard that heavy dark sounding cymbals were expensive so was jus wonderin if anyone knew which cymbals would be nice and dark and heavy, bt nt be 2 expensive

cheers

lol wut

ah-hem...

"I read the beginning of this thread and heard that heavy, dark cymbals were expensive. Due to the nature of this, I am asking whether or not there are any dark, heavy cymbals which are not of the expensive nature.

My mother drank a lot when I was a child and my father thinks he's British. This beer I'm currently holding is... oh, fell onto my lap. Cheerio!"

The answer to your question is:

not really, no.

You get what you pay for.

I'd rep you again if I could.

Your only hope is second hand, and even then, they're not particularly cheap, just cheaper. You could scour eBay for months to find a deal you like.

ilu, man

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[quote=ant_182;15636252]^ be best tapping the corner. Thats the weakest spot[/quote]

Wouldnt sound as impressive then would it, thus ruining my similie.

Hey guys I'm new here and I want some advice, but I'm kinda going the wrong way about it here. I'm after new hats and I'm not completely sure what to get. If you haven't guessed I'm a massive Muse fan (by my name), meaning I also love the sound of Dominic Howard's hats. He uses 14" K Custom Special dry hats, but I'm also open to suggestions.
I usually play progressive type stuff(my band just does covers for now), Muse, Coheed and Cambria, The Mars Volta bands like that. But we also delve into heavier stuff such as Silverchair, so I'm looking for something that my give me the balance.

So to be brief, I want 14" K Custom Special dry hats, but i'm not totally sure, what do you guys think??

I'm going shopping tomorrow, and im bringing something home, so the sooner the better!!
Cheers

If you're gigging those hats will get lost in the mix of guitars and bass unless they're mic'd up, to be honest. I've got a 16" K Custom Special Dry Crash, and although it's godly sounding, live it's lost easily. I'd suggest 13" K/Z Dyno Beats if you need that bit of projection and cutting. I'm a huge muse fan [seen them live 6 times, met them etc] and play the 13" K/Zs doing covers of them. They work well because the bottom hat is reeeeal thick and add weight to them. Oooh you're an Aussie, even better, welcome aboard!

Cheers Mate!
Wollongong....I'm originally from Dapto, nice!
Cheers for that, I'm only really taking up drums seriously recently, I've been playing rarely because I play for the state in footy (proper footy not AFL) so I get bugger all time to play, but with the addition of a band it's heplping a lot, although my knowledge of what sounds good and what doesn't is particularly shithouse.
But anyway, I'm gonna make sure I try a bunch out before I buy anything, I'm not dumb enough to do the "I want that one" trick.

You may want to give Sabian HHX Evolution hats a look over, as well as K Mastersounds, and K Custom Hybrids. All pricey, but so are the Special Drys.

Price isn't really an obstacle, I'm going to get what sounds good, not what's good enough for my price range, but I'll make sure to have a good look at all of those.

Thanks mate

[QUOTE=CitiZeN_3rAseD;15680631]Price isn't really an obstacle, I'm going to get what sounds good, not what's good enough for my price range, but I'll make sure to have a good look at all of those.

Thanks mate[/QUOTE]

Good attitude.

Cheers,I really don't want to regret what I bought, say six months down the track, so I've got more than enough for any of those, and I've put aside about 3 hours to make sure of what I want, but hopefully I won't need 3 hours

Yeah thats the best way man

I did the trip and I came home with the HHX evolutions, unfortunately for me The Special dries were half price and sold out, but I'm extremely happy with the hats I've got, thanks for the info, i doubt I would have looked at them if it wasn't for you guys!

I'm after a new ride.
My Hi hats are Zildjian Z Customer Dyno Beats.
I want a ride which I can transfer to from my hats, without a massive contrast in sound.

I want a [I]nice[/I] clear, cutting ping. (emphasis on the nice. I don't want an offensive sound which just sounds out of place)
I want it to be crashable, and loud when crashed.
Preferably a decent sized (as I'm not always the most accrurate drummer) bell which has a nice yet unoffensive ping to it.

My budget is around £200.

Thanks in advance to your suggestions!

Eergmm...

Good, clear, ping and bell, don't generally work alongside crashable all that well.

Besides crashable, I'm gonna reccomend the A Ping Ride or the AA Raw Bell Dry Ride. With crashable... I don't buy crashable rides.

:smash:

OK.
Thanks for that.
I hope I'm wording it right, does "ping" basically mean good stick definition? I always use nylon tips as well which helps with that.
And it doesn't have to be officially a crashable ride. It just needs to sound musical if it is crashed rather than just a muddy ear killing sound.

^
I think crazy is right on the button with his suggestions. I think the AA Raw Bell Dry Ride would fit the bill, though if you could stretch to the HH version, perhaps second hand given your budget, you may like that more. Or maybe not.

[QUOTE=CitiZeN_3rAseD;15683167]I did the trip and I came home with the HHX evolutions, unfortunately for me The Special dries were half price and sold out, but I'm extremely happy with the hats I've got, thanks for the info, i doubt I would have looked at them if it wasn't for you guys![/QUOTE]

Thanks for letting us know. I'm glad I could help.

I gave them both a play in the drum shop and went with the A Ping Ride in the end.
Just the sound I was after!
Although I didn't see a HH version so didn't get to try that.
I also tried some Z customs, but they just sounded really muddy after a couple of strokes. No definition at all.
Thanks for your help though Crazyguy!

I'm looking for a new main crash since my SHITTY ZXT died. :/ I want a 16" medium one with a dark and dry sound. The most I can afford is about $230.

Thanks for any help.

16" won't make a good main crash, to be honest. At least a 17".

I'd look into the K Darks.

Seafroggys, a lot of people dislike larger crashes. If the man wants a 16"er, let him get it.

[QUOTE=NickC;15687691]I gave them both a play in the drum shop and went with the A Ping Ride in the end.
Just the sound I was after!
Although I didn't see a HH version so didn't get to try that.
I also tried some Z customs, but they just sounded really muddy after a couple of strokes. No definition at all.
Thanks for your help though Crazyguy![/QUOTE]
Killer choice on the A Ping, man, glad to see another one on the forums with one!

:smoke:

Did you get the 20" or the 22"?

As a side note: in a band situations, rides like the Z Customs will lose most of their "mud" behind the wailing guitars and such (but they'd still sound bad XD). Even the ping ride has a fair amount of wash when you lay into it. You always gotta remember that 3/4 or more of a cymbal's wash will be lost in amplified situations.

:chug:

[quote=CitiZeN_3rAseD;15677766]Cheers Mate!
Wollongong....I'm originally from Dapto, nice!
Cheers for that, I'm only really taking up drums seriously recently, I've been playing rarely because I play for the state in footy (proper footy not AFL) so I get bugger all time to play, but with the addition of a band it's heplping a lot, although my knowledge of what sounds good and what doesn't is particularly poophouse.
But anyway, I'm gonna make sure I try a bunch out before I buy anything, I'm not dumb enough to do the "I want that one" trick.[/quote]
Haha won't hold that against you. I joke. Dapto dogs all the way.
Grab me if you need a hand anytime.