[QUOTE=victoryrecordsfan]ok raise your hand if u can sit through one song for 24 min and not lose interest
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Well, depends on the song, many prog songs over 20 minutes are great because they have a lot of versatility.

I do listen long songs.

[QUOTE=victoryrecordsfan]ok raise your hand if u can sit through one song for 24 min and not lose interest

i could do it if i tried but thats very hard cause ppl think i'm like an a.d.d kid and i'm startign to see why.....is that bad?[/QUOTE]



:raises hand: I do it on a regular basis.


Your typing makes me think you have a.d.d. :p

Octavarium is one of my favorite songs. I can listen to it multiple times in a row without getting bored and its awesome. To be honest, I don't agree at all with people who say the intro is 'boring.' I think its an awesome intro, I dunno whether its the awesome pads or the echoy guitar, but it defiantely rocks.

Octavarium is a really great song.


I love how this thread has picked up. For awhile it was only a handful of regular posters in this thread.

[QUOTE=silicon71]Octavarium is one of my favorite songs. I can listen to it multiple times in a row without getting bored and its awesome. To be honest, I don't agree at all with people who say the intro is 'boring.' I think its an awesome intro, I dunno whether its the awesome pads or the echoy guitar, but it defiantely rocks.[/QUOTE]


I think its Jordan playing a pedal steel guitar.

I can sit and listen to all 24 minutes of Octavarium 5 or 6 times a day.

It's so damn good.

Most of my alltime favourite songs are at least 7 minutes +.

I love long songs.
it's just more yummines, if you know what I mean.
I don't want an awesome song to end so fast.

np: DT - The Root Of all Evil
(I haven't listened to 8vm for ages :-/ )

length isn't a factor for me, but with the abundance of short clips of music here and there, something to just listen to and enjoy for a longER period of time is nice.

i like octavarium as a whole more than ACOS, because i think it sounds much more refined. but "another world" in ACOS easily takes the cake for "best section."

I can easily sit through them simply because they're so varied.

Same here. It's not like they're using the same riff over and over.

I personally think ACoS is miles better than 8vm, though I love 8vm a lot.

Another World and the Crimson Sunset are just brilliant.

I love the vocal solos in it, and the Crimson Sunset. That piano bit is brilliant, even if it is only 3 or 4 notes.

[QUOTE=Lionheart1827]No way man.

It's actually quite awesome.

A Change of Seasons pretty much defines Progmetal.

Octavarium is just plain awesome.:thumb:[/QUOTE]

ACOS > Octavarium.

I keep saying this: Octavarium is exactly like 6DOIT. It isn't one song! It is several songs put into one track!

You could say that about ACOS too...

Anyone here like Images and Words at all? Just got it and I'm listening to it right now.

Well overall, it's probably this thread's favourite DT album.

I&W is my favorite album by DT :)

[QUOTE=chorbalan]Anyone here like Images and Words at all?[/QUOTE]
My favourite album in the world.

[QUOTE=badtaste]ACOS > Octavarium.

I keep saying this: Octavarium is exactly like 6DOIT. It isn't one song! It is several songs put into one track![/QUOTE]

and i keep saying this: the song octavarium has ties to every OTHER song on the album. it ties in w/ the whole concept of the album. in fact, it IS the concept of the album.

and waht does it matter if it's "several songs put into one track?" :confused:

Oh oh :) It has two of my favourite songs on it, Pull Me Under and Metropolis.

My favorite songs off of I&W is the entire album.

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My favorites songs of Images and Words are Pull Me Under, Metropolis, Take the Time, Under a Glass Moon and Learning to Live.

The encore of the new dvd is gonna be Metropolis, do they meant the whole song or just pt I?

pt I is the whole song on I&W

pt 2 is the entire SFAM album

i assume they mean they single song... but with DT you never know...

lol thatd be a hell of a show, the whole 2nd disc of 6DoIT and the whole Metropolis pt 2. cd

There's definitely no pt.2 in the encore.

[QUOTE=Kirk's Puppet]There's definitely no pt.2 in the encore.[/QUOTE]

i that when i saw The Spirit Carries on on the set list,i'm kind of dissapointed.

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]and i keep saying this: the song octavarium has ties to every OTHER song on the album. it ties in w/ the whole concept of the album. in fact, it IS the concept of the album.

and waht does it matter if it's "several songs put into one track?" :confused:[/QUOTE]

Well, you know Dream Theater are getting desperate.

"Hey guys, we need to do another 20 minuteplus song. Any ideas?" - MP
"..." - Everyone else.
"Okay, we'll just do another 6DOIT, and write up tonnes of small songs and put them all into one song. Go the Portnoy Quintet!"
"..." - everyone else.

ACOS was on one theme. Nuff said.

[QUOTE=ThunderBass]i assume they mean they single song... but with DT you never know...[/QUOTE]


They didnt play Scenes From a Memory at the concert so its just part one.

that's pretty much how i imagine some of the dream theater pre-production ideas.

edit: reply to badtaste comment.

actually, their songwriting procedure is free-flow.

ppl have ideas. they dink around w/ em and keep adding ideas onto it, making the song grow. everyone is free to add any ideas at any point during the songwriting process.
that's why they're all so long.

they don't restrain themselves until tehy feel the song is finished. they don't limit themselves to a certain song structure/format.

and in the case of octavarium, it like ACOS, is about one theme. the idea of full circle. things ending where they began, or beginning where they ended.

You are right, but i still think the roots of their latest works are invented like badtaste said.

You know, like Metropolis pt II, MP actually said the idea was making a full lenght album based on one song, that was the main idea. The writting process is were they make the free flow procedure.

Giagntour DVD out September 5, 2006

Details:

SPECIAL 2-DISC SET! Megadeth leads the charge in this relentless heavy metal onslaught! The fast and furious Gigantour is the ultimate hard-rocking force. Captured here the top bands from the 2005 tour show why this was the best metal bill of the year PLUS you get into all the offstage action in a special bonus disc!



Featuring songs by Megadeth ("She Wolf," "A Tout le Monde," "Kick the Chair"), Dream Theater ("Glass Prison," "Panic Attack"), Fear Factory ("Transgression," "Archetype"), Nevermore ("Born," "Enemies of Reality"), Life of Agony ("Love to Let You Down," "Day He Died"), Symphony X ("Inferno," "Of Sins and Shadows"), Bobaflex ("Better Than Me"), Dry Kill Logic ("Paper Tiger," "Lost").

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Dave probably wanted to put heavier songs on the DVD (DT). pfft Ill buy it anyway, SX, Nevermore, DT and Deth is awsome.

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^Sounds cool, no word of the Cemetary Gates cover though..

[QUOTE=nowitzki]^Sounds cool, no word of the Cemetary Gates cover though..[/QUOTE]


Im sure it will be on there. I remember reading somewhere that Dave wanted it on the DVD.

at first a change of seasons seemed to drag on too long but now that i listen to it more n more i cant belive how great it is, man this mite turn out to be my favorite DT song

At first I was like OMG a song that goes on for more than 20 minutes, it must suck.
Oh, how wrong I was.

that DVD looks great, although i personally wouldn't minda longer DT portion of it rather than bobaflex or fear factory or something ;)

Same here. :p