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Britton 10-28-2005 05:54 PM

No I would feel sorry for me

TheDMV 10-28-2005 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]If your mother died of cigarette smoking, would you not feel sorry for her?[/QUOTE]

partially, but a lot of that would be because she's my mother. Any old person who dies of cigarette smoking doesn't warrant my sorrows; it's the infant who dies from second hand smoke that we should mourn for.

Britton 10-29-2005 01:51 AM

Are you kidding me?

LoL

What I mean is it's too bad that he ended up how he did but you know
what he made that choice...so no I don't feel sorry for him. It's too bad
that we got robbed but h well.

and on my mom if she were dumb enough to take acid or smoke and she died
cause of it I wouldn't feel sorry for her.

Spinal Pap 10-29-2005 01:53 AM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]This is an off topic anecdote, but my first experience with drugs was when someone gave me a pot brownie without telling me it had pot in it.[/QUOTE]

:lol: I'm sure that was rather alarming. Where were you at?

Britton 10-29-2005 02:02 AM

What was the movie where that happened?

Riva 10-29-2005 02:24 AM

[QUOTE=Britton]What was the movie where that happened?[/QUOTE]

Do you really read posts, or do you just say random crap?

Kaiwaz 10-29-2005 02:40 AM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Do you really read posts, or do you just say random crap?[/QUOTE]


Riva, please quite being negative.

Britton 10-29-2005 02:53 AM

Well He's kinda right that was very random...but I was randomly replying
to a random question

Riva 10-29-2005 03:00 AM

[QUOTE=Britton]Well He's kinda right that was very random...but I was randomly replying
to a random question[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but the guy said that is was a personal experience. He mentioned nothing about a movie.

DeusExMachina 10-29-2005 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=Spinal Pap]:lol: I'm sure that was rather alarming. Where were you at?[/QUOTE]
School. Genetics class.

It may have been random, but it was a response to Schyma's comment. It was at least somewhat related to the topic.

I see nothing wrong with Riva's commentary.

The concept of not feeling any pity just because "he made the decision" is really cold hearted. First off, he didn't make the decision to do all of the acid. A lot of it was given to him without him realizing it. But furthermore, it should be kept in mind that a) he was young, and b) it was part of the times. A group of kids who get drunk and drive and hit a tree and becomes paralyzed from the neck down certainly brought it on themselves, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve pity. Everyone makes mistakes, and having your life ruined for those mistakes isn't a fair punishment.

standard 10-29-2005 05:59 PM

I'm at like 21 min on Echoes right now.

Man, what a jam. I was somehow singing the guitar playing in it. Intresting.

temporary 10-29-2005 06:02 PM

[QUOTE=Kingofdudes]The people he lived with spiked his coffee and other drinks with LSD without him knowing.[/QUOTE]

I actually didn't know that. That would be a pretty aweful thing to do to someone...

Lunch 10-29-2005 08:03 PM

It was pretty commonplace back in those days. For example, the Who were unwillingly tripping for about 24 hours before their performance at Woodstock because of people doing that.

dr._feelgood 10-29-2005 08:16 PM

Were they still tripping by the time they got onstage?

Lunch 10-29-2005 08:18 PM

I think they were either finished or on the way down.

Riva 10-29-2005 08:39 PM

I can't imagine The Who on drugs. It just seems weird.

Britton 10-29-2005 08:40 PM

That was the thing back then...it's just how it was

Lunch 10-29-2005 08:45 PM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]I can't imagine The Who on drugs. It just seems weird.[/QUOTE]

Entwistle and Daltrey never/rarely got involved, and Moon didn't do as much as you might think. Townshend smoked a lot of pot and did some more psychedelic drugs until late 1967 when he had a terrible experience and decided to give them up. All the acid at Woodstock was taken involuntarily.

dr._feelgood 10-29-2005 08:47 PM

Didn't Entwhistle die from a coke overdose or something?

Pink_Zeppelin 10-29-2005 08:48 PM

Sex + Drugs + Rock and Roll = Da Bomb back then.

Britton 10-29-2005 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=Pink_Zeppelin]Sex + Drugs + Rock and Roll = Da Bomb back then.[/QUOTE]


Just like I said a minute ago. And it's really too bad

Lunch 10-29-2005 08:49 PM

Yea, I was referring to psychedelic drugs and the group in the 60's (sorry for the confusion). I'm sure they did plenty of coke later in their career.

Britton 10-29-2005 08:51 PM

they didn't do lots of drugs but I think they did drink quite a bit

Spinal Pap 10-29-2005 08:51 PM

[QUOTE=Kingofdudes]The people he lived with spiked his coffee and other drinks with LSD without him knowing.[/QUOTE]

LSD must have been alot less expensive back then. Not many people would do that nowadays just because you have to pay so much to get it.

Britton 10-29-2005 08:52 PM

Right....

I swear officer

robo2448 10-29-2005 08:55 PM

Yeah in the late '70s The Who had major drug problems. Like Lunch said, I don't think they did too much in the '60s but in the 70's, Townsend, Entwistle, and Moon all had serious drinking problems. Moon died from pills he was taking to stop his alcoholism. I think John's death a few years ago was caused by alcohol, and Townsend has come very close to dying multiple times from alcohol and numerous other drugs. I don't really know anything about Daltrey and drugs.

Pink Floyd didn't really do any drugs, which is kind of surprising because their music is often considered "drug music". I mean Syd did his LSD and stuff, and I think Roger did acid occassionally and Mason did some coke but I think Gilmour and Wright were pretty clean.

Yield 10-29-2005 09:01 PM

Bands back in the late 60's, sadly, never would have been as good as they were if they hadn't taken all the LSD and pot. But it wasn't all the band members who would do drugs. Take Pink Floyd as an example. Everyone did drugs, but Syd Barett was the only person who was seriously addicted. Syd Barett wouldn't have been so drugged anyways but some of his so called "friends" would put acid in his food and his water when he didn't know, so that he would take more drugs while he was already on a trip.

classicrockman 10-29-2005 09:06 PM

/going off the drug topic now

I just watched the 'Classic Albums' DVD on Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon.' It was great. Anyone else seen it?

Spinal Pap 10-29-2005 09:06 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]Pink Floyd didn't really do any drugs, which is kind of surprising because their music is often considered "drug music". I mean Syd did his LSD and stuff, and I think Roger did acid occassionally and Mason did some coke but I think Gilmour and Wright were pretty clean.[/QUOTE]

Yeah it's kind of ironic that they were clean for the most part(besides Syd) seeing as how the made some of the best music to chill to.

Lunch 10-29-2005 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=FLOYD_FOREVER]Bands back in the late 60's, sadly, never would have been as good as they were if they hadn't taken all the LSD and pot.[/QUOTE]

I'd say that is false for the most part. It wasn't that the music would suffer if no one did drugs, it's just that the overall style of the time period would be different. Although drugs clearly influenced some great songs/albums in that time, I'd say the real talent of that era would still have produced quality music with or without the drugs. Again, only the styles would be different.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 10-29-2005 09:10 PM

I would love my friends to drug me with LSD. :D

When acid was legal believe it or not the army would give random people LSD at bars and study their reactions.

Britton 10-29-2005 09:14 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]I'd say that is false for the most part. It wasn't that the music would suffer if no one did drugs, it's just that the overall style of the time period would be different. Although drugs clearly influenced some great songs/albums in that time, I'd say the real talent of that era would still have produced quality music with or without the drugs. Again, only the styles would be different.[/QUOTE]


I agree with this statment

is that really true shyma?

guitarded_chuck 10-29-2005 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]Pink Floyd didn't really do any drugs, which is kind of surprising because their music is often considered "drug music". I mean Syd did his LSD and stuff, and I think Roger did acid occassionally and Mason did some coke but I think Gilmour and Wright were pretty clean.[/QUOTE]
Just to varrify, Syd did so much acid he would trip 2 and 3 times a day. Roger did acid once and didn't like it, but drank quite often and smoked pot rarely. Mason drank often too. Gilmour and Wright were the ones who smoked pot fairly regularily. (out of Mason's book.)

Yield 10-29-2005 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=guitarded_chuck]Just to varrify, Syd did so much acid he would trip 2 and 3 times a day. Roger did acid once and didn't like it, but drank quite often and smoked pot rarely. Mason drank often too. Gilmour and Wright were the ones who smoked pot fairly regularily. (out of Mason's book.)[/QUOTE]

I can understand that, because I saw an interview about DSOTM with Gilmour and he took lots of pauses and just looked like he was high.

Britton 10-29-2005 09:25 PM

Where did you see this?

Yield 10-29-2005 09:30 PM

It was on VH1's "I Love the 70's" but I don't know which year

guitarded_chuck 10-29-2005 09:40 PM

Could of been off Live in Pompeii. Dave definitly looks high in a few interviews on that DVD.

Mmm, DSOTM is sooo good on a late Saturday night.

Dr. Jake Destructo 10-29-2005 10:15 PM

L8: Are you sure LSD is expensive? I'm sure chemists have come up with easier, more effective methods of concocting this drug,(and pretty much anything else) which would make it a fraction of the cost now than it was then.

Unless you're setting inflation aside, then of course it would have been cheaper 40 years ago.

Britton 10-29-2005 11:03 PM

Pot's really cheap but I've never/will never/try it

I think Dave was main;y a drinker. HIm and Roger

DeusExMachina 10-29-2005 11:07 PM

Dave didn't drink much. He did weed. Roger and Nick were the drinkers. According to Saucerful of Secrets, at least.


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