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Brain Toad 10-30-2005 02:57 PM

[QUOTE=Anti-Prefix]I dislike people who talk about this. Your skin color doesn't control the way you act, rather your ethnicity. It's a good differenciation that you should start using.[/QUOTE]

There is no white ethnicity.

Anxious 10-30-2005 03:14 PM

Im black.

big eskimo pimpin 10-30-2005 03:24 PM

The below message is true.

The above message is false.

Think about that.

DaveToopes 10-30-2005 03:26 PM

[QUOTE=Anti-Prefix]I dislike people who talk about this. Your skin color doesn't control the way you act, rather your ethnicity. It's a good differenciation that you should start using.[/QUOTE]

Sorry Sam. :upset:

AIRIC 10-30-2005 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=chairman_of_the_board]But Sam, you know all Mexicans pick tomatoes and all Indians own motels, quickie marts, and casinos. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]


And Dollar stores.

Brain Toad 10-30-2005 03:35 PM

Also, if you start using ethnicity over race, you better stop calling people male and female. Both race and gender are socially constructed.

Anti-Prefix 10-30-2005 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=DaveToopes]Sorry Sam. :upset:[/QUOTE]

It's okay bud. :)

JUST NEVER DO IT AGAIN!

:wave:

Anti-Prefix 10-30-2005 03:54 PM

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]Also, if you start using ethnicity over race, you better stop calling people male and female. Both race and gender are socially constructed.[/QUOTE]

It is truth that a lot of minorities have lost their ethnicity due to American culture.

Not necessarily. Gender is proven, race is not. The color (or amount/lack of) melatonin in your skin has nothing to do with your actions. However; your testosterone, and hormone level does. Both of which are effected by gender.

Race is socially constructed period. Gender is modified.

Jessizzle 10-30-2005 04:00 PM

So iv just started getting into "trip hop" Its pretty cool. Iv been listening to Dj Shadow and some other stuff my friend sent me.

Brain Toad 10-30-2005 04:15 PM

[QUOTE=Anti-Prefix]It is truth that a lot of minorities have lost their ethnicity due to American culture.

Not necessarily. Gender is proven, race is not. The color (or amount/lack of) melatonin in your skin has nothing to do with your actions. However; your testosterone, and hormone level does. Both of which are effected by gender.

Race is socially constructed period. Gender is modified.[/QUOTE]

Gender isn't proven, sex is. And even that is a blurry line. What are intersexed people, male or female? Gender is just as pointless as judging people on race. What matters does someones genitals matter. Why is their a distinction between male and females, why not between pregnant or not pregnant. Gender is just as socially constructed, if not more then race is. Take a sociology class or at least pick up a textbook and read about it.

Anti-Prefix 10-30-2005 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]Gender isn't proven, sex is. And even that is a blurry line. What are intersexed people, male or female? Gender is just as pointless as judging people on race. What matters does someones genitals matter. Why is their a distinction between male and females, why not between pregnant or not pregnant. Gender is just as socially constructed, if not more then race is. Take a sociology class or at least pick up a textbook and read about it.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but there are just way more distinctions in Gender than there is in Race. Actual, physical differences, hormone, and chemical levels. Race is a term that was socially created, whereas Gender(sex) is socially constructed, or percieved to be certain ways.

I do agree that there shouldn't be differences as far as skills and/or weaknesses. But that's one of the many things society conditions us to think.

Brain Toad 10-30-2005 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=Anti-Prefix]Yes, but there are just way more distinctions in Gender than there is in Race. Actual, physical differences, hormone, and chemical levels. Race is a term that was socially created, whereas Gender(sex) is socially constructed, or percieved to be certain ways.

I do agree that there shouldn't be differences as far as skills and/or weaknesses. But that's one of the many things society conditions us to think.[/QUOTE]

The line isn't that drawn between physical differences etc when you start dipping into intersex and genital abnomalities. Our social system is flawed and will stay flawed for a long time.

And if no one told you were a boy or a girl and raised in a gender neutral household, you would never know the differences until put into society.

This is tiresome.. back to RYM adding.

Anti-Prefix 10-30-2005 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]The line isn't that drawn between physical differences etc when you start dipping into intersex and genital abnomalities. Our social system is flawed and will stay flawed for a long time.

And if no one told you were a boy or a girl and raised in a gender neutral household, you would never know the differences until put into society.

This is tiresome.. back to RYM adding.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree. Our society is completely messed up and far from correct. However, I was just saying that if you're going to label a person, Gender would be a much more accurate label. As opposed to Race. There's just more tangible proof to differenciate.

But I love you Nicholas.

KingOfSka 10-30-2005 04:29 PM

I thought this was the Community Thread...

pedro durruti 10-30-2005 04:30 PM

If you have a penis you're a dude, if you have a vaj you're a girl, if you have both or neither you're an it

Anti-Prefix 10-30-2005 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=ihatecelebrities]If you have a penis you're a dude, if you have a vaj you're a girl, if you have both or neither you're an it[/QUOTE]

A hermaphrodite.

pedro durruti 10-30-2005 04:43 PM

If you want to get all PC about it

KingOfSka 10-30-2005 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=DaveToopes]The few black kids at my school act whiter than most of the white kids anyways.[/QUOTE]

I go to a private school, so most of the kids there are chinese or brown. But last year there was this one black kid from Manitoba. He thought that just because he was black, he [I]had[/I] to play basketball and listen to rap. Really he wasn't very good at basketball, and he didn't like rap. But it seemed to him like he had to put out this black image, just because of his skin colour.

One day he comes up to me and hes like "Hey, I really like Sum 41, but don't tell anyone!". It was quite lame indeed.

lynch_me 10-30-2005 04:54 PM

i like jello

lynch_me 10-30-2005 04:56 PM

[QUOTE=Anti-Prefix]It is truth that a lot of minorities have lost their ethnicity due to American culture.

Not necessarily. Gender is proven, race is not. The color (or amount/lack of) melatonin in your skin has nothing to do with your actions. However; your testosterone, and hormone level does. Both of which are effected by gender.

Race is socially constructed period. Gender is modified.[/QUOTE]
are you a scientist?

AIRIC 10-30-2005 04:56 PM

I had jello at a Chinese buffet today.

Brain Toad 10-30-2005 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=Anti-Prefix]A hermaphrodite.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ihatecelebrities]If you want to get all PC about it[/QUOTE]

His term was actually non PC. Or incorrect at least.

Anxious 10-30-2005 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=.Jessica.]So iv just started getting into "trip hop" Its pretty cool. Iv been listening to Dj Shadow and some other stuff my friend sent me.[/QUOTE]
Check out Massive Attack, and Handsome Boy Modeling School, for more good trip-hop.

KingOfSka 10-30-2005 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=Anti-Prefix]
The color (or amount/lack of) melatonin in your skin has nothing to do with your actions.[/QUOTE]

That is a misuse of brackets.

AIRIC 10-30-2005 05:00 PM

Parenthesis*

lynch_me 10-30-2005 05:02 PM

[QUOTE=Anti-Prefix]I completely agree. Our society is completely messed up and far from correct. However, I was just saying that if you're going to label a person, Gender would be a much more accurate label. As opposed to Race. There's just more tangible proof to differenciate.

But I love you Nicholas.[/QUOTE]
This basically just comes down to the whole "Nature VS Nuture" debate.

Anxious 10-30-2005 05:02 PM

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]The line isn't that drawn between physical differences etc when you start dipping into intersex and genital abnomalities. Our social system is flawed and will stay flawed for a long time.

And if no one told you were a boy or a girl and raised in a gender neutral household, you would never know the differences until put into society.

This is tiresome.. back to RYM adding.[/QUOTE]
I believe this because I basicly had a whole quarter on Psychology about it. Its true.

Brain Toad 10-30-2005 05:03 PM

[QUOTE=Anxious Mo-Fo]I believe this because I basicly had a whole quarter on Psychology about it. Its true.[/QUOTE]

Sociology touches on it better then psychology has ever done. But I found that section really interesting, with intersex, gender roles, etc. I may take a class on it if I can.

Anxious 10-30-2005 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=lynch_me]This basically just comes down to the whole "Nature VS Nuture" debate.[/QUOTE]
Yep. And the short answer is that both Nature and Nuture shape us. For you nayssayers.

[QUOTE]Sociology touches on it better then psychology has ever done. But I found that section really interesting, with intersex, gender roles, etc. I may take a class on it if I can.[/QUOTE]
I guess ill have to wait for college for that.

lynch_me 10-30-2005 05:05 PM

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]Sociology touches on it better then psychology has ever done. But I found that section really interesting, with intersex, gender roles, etc. I may take a class on it if I can.[/QUOTE]
Sciology > Psychology > Anthropology


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