But apparently my post pointing out an obvious fallacy in your logic can be ignored!

[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15789442]Yes, but continue reading. There are facts there that cannot be ignored.[/QUOTE]

The only "fact" in what you posted was that "Paganism" is a legally acknowledged "religion". Testimonials are not facts. Nor are complaints.

[quote]"List of bands that are "promoting satanism" will be delivered to local councils in whole country (Poland). Their gigs are supposed to be banned.

List is being made by Ogólnopolski Komitet Obrony przed Sektami (National Protection against Sects Committee). It will contain bands and musicians that in opinion of OKOpS members are promoting satanism. [I]Until now it wasn't clear which bands are promoting such content and that is why they were allowed to give concerts. We decided to help local authorities[/I] - says Ryszard Nowak, chairman of OKOpS.

As he explains together with many specialist they analyzed hundreds of bands that were playing in Poland in last 20 years. Who will be on the list? Now we don't know exactly. But for sure we will find there heavy metal band Behemoth, legendary Kat and worldwide known star Marilyn Manson. [I]This won't be just metal bands but also rock bands, because our analyzes showed that very often these bands are promoting satanism, calling to killing, organizing black masses or killing animals in sacrifice[/I] - explains Nowak. Complete list will be delivered to local councils in whole country. Some of them are already waiting for it - [I]Now very often we don't know anything about bands that are playing here and thanks to this list we will be able to say which of them are dangerous[/I] - says Urszula Sienkiewicz-Nogal from Białystok city council. - [I]I don't think that any reasonable person will let any band from this list play in their territory.[/I] - she adds."


[B]What the F* this is supposed to be?![/B] First they will ban concerts, then distributing music like this and at the end they will put bands and fans into jail (or maybe burn as witches)? This country is getting back to middle ages.
I just don't know what to say...this is sick.

Btw. I didn't know that Maralyn Manson is satanist. [/quote]

Tell me Christian ideology isn't getting ridiculous.

[QUOTE]"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus, Mohammed, and other mainstream religion than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people, including myself, don't like that statement, but the truth of it is undeniable."[/QUOTE]

That doesn't prove that "More crimes have been committed in the name of Yahveh and Allah than have been committed in the name of all other ideologies combined.", it proves that followers of the three main religions outdo satanists in crimes (big suprise, they only outnumber them at least 10-1, probably way more but I'll be generous)

Poland is one of he most Christian countries in the world, of course they aren't going to like it when satanists throw concerts, that's perfectly normal...

[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15789451]Tell me Christian ideology isn't getting ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

Tell me Christian ideology hasn't become 777% more lax in the past 100 years.

[QUOTE]Tell me Christian ideology isn't getting ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Has nothing to do with Christian ideology and everything to do with the ideology of certain Christians. There is a huge distinction you're failing to make.

I think this is the first time I've ever been on the same side as i am the robots in any argument ever. :lol:

[quote=Cocaine;15789447]The only "fact" in what you posted was that "Paganism" is a legally acknowledged "religion". Testimonials are not facts. Nor are complaints.[/quote]They aren't purely testimonials. Do you not pay attention to the news? There was a whole flare up a few months ago about the government not letting a soldier have a pentacle on his grave. How ridiculous is that?

[quote]Tell me Christian ideology hasn't become 777% more lax in the past 100 years[/quote]

The Polish government apparently wants no part of that.

[QUOTE=Silenius;15789457]I think this is the first time I've ever been on the same side as i am the robots in any argument ever. :lol:[/QUOTE]
It's beautiful. :')

[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15789458]They aren't purely testimonials. Do you not pay attention to the news? There was a whole flare up a few months ago about the government not letting a soldier have a pentacle on his grave. How ridiculous is that?[/QUOTE]

Did you post that? You posted some gibberish about "Pagans" not being able to take a day off from the supermarket even though their holidays were acknowledged. Whoopdie doo.

It's a Christian nation, like it or not. Some injustices are to be expected. I'm not saying I support it, but you're acting like it's at all relevant.

I'm going to exit from this argument now, I tried to end it and ended up getting involved.

ITT pagans are whinier than gay rites activists.

[quote=Cocaine;15789461]
It's a Christian nation, like it or not. Some injustices are to be expected.[/quote]

That's my point. We are supposed to just deal with sh[size=2]i[/size]t because Christians rule.

Holy crap that's my whole point!

I'm a practising pagan. That doesn't mean anything, but I will defend to death my right to say it.

[QUOTE]Holy crap that's my whole point![/QUOTE]

I thought this was your point

[QUOTE]More crimes have been committed in the name of Yahveh and Allah than have been committed in the name of all other ideologies combined.[/QUOTE]
Or was it that stuff about eliminating judeo-christian religions because ten out of every few million followers is shitnuts insane?

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15789463]ITT pagans are whinier than gay rites activists.[/QUOTE]

And I do think gays get more **** from christians than pagans do.

No way!
[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15789464]That's my point. We are supposed to just deal with sh[size=2]i[/size]t because Christians rule.[/QUOTE]

Yeah dude, they don't even pay attention to religion in any way shape or form, unless it's Christmas or Easter, and then they just go to church and think they've met salvation.

You're so very persecuted for your beliefs you've just taken up on, one that you don't even know the name of!

The whole point is that Christian ideals have taken over things they should not be in. I simply used violation of Pagan's rights as an example.

As an aetheist I am the most mistrusted group in America (more so than gays according to several polls). However, I don't see any problem with this unless I want to make a problem out of it....

Hahaha, this is reminding me of the gay rights debate in The Pit.
[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15789473]The whole point is that Christian ideals have taken over things they should not be in. I simply used violation of Pagan's rights as an example.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's why abortion is legal, because the Christians are getting so damn opressive and following the Bible to the T.

[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15789473]The whole point is that Christian ideals have taken over things they should not be in.[/QUOTE]

So Christian ideals shouldn't be an integral part of a nation founded around them? So a nation founded for Christians who wanted to practice their religion shouldn't be at all based on Christianity?

I dont want to get into some ridiculous church/state argument but you really dont seem to know what it is you're trying to prove.

[quote=i am the robots;15789475]Yeah, that's why abortion is legal, because the Christians are getting so damn opressive and following the Bible to the T.[/quote]

The number of states it is legal in is dwindling fast, if you haven't noticed.


Tyler: The country was also founded on freedom of religion. For everyone, not just Christians. In fact, that was a big deal. Yet, Christianity still trumps over everything and everyone.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15789475]Hahaha, this is reminding me of the gay rights debate in The Pit.

Yeah, that's why abortion is legal, because the Christians are getting so damn opressive and following the Bible to the T.[/QUOTE]

They're working on it goddammit, give them some time to follow the lord's word.

[QUOTE]So a nation founded for Christians who wanted to practice their religion shouldn't be at all based on Christianity?[/QUOTE]

To be fair they were people who wanted to escape religious persecution in general (from other christians).

Yeah, and now there is SOOOOO much law enforced religious persecution!
[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15789479]The number of states it is legal in is dwindling fast, if you haven't noticed.[/QUOTE]
Thank fu[font=verdana]cking[/font] God.

This is why I don't pay attention to politics, it's all so disgusting and Godless.

[quote=i am the robots;15789486]Thank fu[FONT=verdana]cking[/FONT] God.

This is why I don't pay attention to politics, it's all so disgusting and Godless.[/quote]


You're not a Christian, are you!!!????!!!




////bad attempt at King Arthur Joke

[QUOTE]Tyler: The country was also founded on freedom of religion. For everyone, not just Christians. In fact, that was a big deal. Yet, Christianity still trumps over everything and everyone.[/QUOTE]
It's still a Christian nation. The fact that Paganism is acknowledged (as hilarious as that is) is freedom of religion. Derp.

[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15789491]You're not a Christian, are you!!!????!!!




////bad attempt at King Arthur Joke[/QUOTE]

Non-denominational Christian, it even says it on my facebook!

[quote=Cocaine;15789492]It's still a Christian nation. The fact that Paganism is acknowledged (as hilarious as that is) is freedom of religion. Derp.[/quote]

You can't preposterously "claim" that you "acknowledge" something without actually excercising it. It's words with no meaning.

Other religions were also explicitely granted "freedom from persecution".

Rob Schneider is a derp-a-derp-a-derp, rated pg-13

[QUOTE]You can't preposterously "claim" that you "acknowledge" something without actually excercising it. It's words with no meaning.[/QUOTE]

How aren't they exercising it? Not giving people the day off isn't barring them from practising the "religion".

rob schneider is... a carrot!

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids;15789501]rob schneider is... a carrot![/QUOTE]

rob schneider is a stapler.