[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;15600577]you suggest that for everything.[/QUOTE]

No I dont, you only see me suggest that to people who ask for that sound...

[QUOTE=Seafroggys;15600438]have you even listened to my audio?[/QUOTE]

Lol sorry froggeh but you kind of proved everything that was just being argued.

haha. my thoughts exactly.

stage hats thick?! wtf, i wish they were thick, mine are too thin for, i'd like more projection/definition outta them

you must be playing like paperthin slosh hats or something to think stages are thick

lol sabian should make some AAX Slosh Hats

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin1307;15602090]Lol sorry froggeh but you kind of proved everything that was just being argued.[/QUOTE]

lmaooooooooo

[quote=Plan B.;15602164]
you must be playing like paperthin slosh hats or something to think stages are thick
[/quote]

well, when you start to think new beats sound nice, that's when you know you're sense of reality is off. the poor kid is so confused.

classic case of the newbeat-dissociative effect

not much we can do about it now

won't be much longer until he's buying earth rides and remarking on how good radia's sound

yeah. it's kind of like herpes - you can repress the effects by making them try other better sounding cymbals, but it always comes back. they turn stupid again and start to get that new beat itch. before long they've broken out in sores and the process starts over again.

maybe one day their will be cure, but not any time soon. he's so young too. that's the sad part.

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin1307;15602090]Lol sorry froggeh but you kind of proved everything that was just being argued.[/QUOTE]

I actually didn't read anything past that point, I just responded to it. After reading it, well, whatever. Its not like I care that you were being sarcastic. But oh well.

I've never played Earth Rides to be honest. Don't think I'd like them. My Ping Ride is enough.

[quote=Plan B.;15602189]classic case of the newbeat-dissociative effect

not much we can do about it now

won't be much longer until he's buying earth rides and remarking on how good radia's sound[/quote]

Radia bells are nice :) And i quite like the chinas.

The stage hats we have a college are quite thick.

Basically, I'm looking for something that sounds really nice when sloshy.

New Beats.

<_<

>_>

^_^

Although, I've got to admit, Vault hats have a really nice sound when played partly open.

[QUOTE=Plan B.;15602189]classic case of the newbeat-dissociative effect

not much we can do about it now

won't be much longer until he's buying earth rides and remarking on how good radia's sound[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't mind an earth ride, but I don't plan on buying one. K Custom Hybrid FTW!

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Never really heard radia's... what line are they under?

[QUOTE=Seafroggys;15596055]

And welcome back tapioca, I remember you. I have one of your solos saved on my old computer still.[/QUOTE]

that's cool. I guess I haven't really improved since then, but I'm still playing drums, regularly in bands now though.

a word to the Anatolians: to me, they all got a very raw, rather cold sound, well suited for strong and violent music. the Emotions are softer, but still carry parts of that raw sound. they have almost no distinct sound at the impact of the sticks, so it would indeed suite to music like Jazz (I tried a 18" thin crash, very nice). finally, both lines have a nice, long decay.
so, I went for the 18" Utimate Power Crash. can't wait to try them out on my set tomorrow.

[QUOTE=crazyguy832;15605844]I wouldn't mind an earth ride, but I don't plan on buying one. K Custom Hybrid FTW!

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Never really heard radia's... what line are they under?[/QUOTE]

I think they're one about Radia Cup Chimes. They were made by Sabian, and I think they were Terry Bozzio's signature cymbals. They don't make them anymore, to the best of my knowledge.

They're rather thick, Zil-Bell like even, which was what they were getting at at the time.

Yeah radias are bozzios signature cymbals and have long been out of production.

Most of them were horrible but i like the chinas and bells.

On another note, I did just purchase some New Beats, but they're slightly different to the average set.

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[quote=Drum Phil;15606523]Yeah radias are bozzios signature cymbals and have long been out of production.

Most of them were horrible but i like the chinas and bells.[/quote]

no sabian cymbal ever goes out of production. You can always get them to make you any sabian cymbal that didnt say prototype on it.

[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;15613142]no sabian cymbal ever goes out of production. You can always get them to make you any sabian cymbal that didnt say prototype on it.[/QUOTE]

A custom order does not a production run make.

Or, stop being wrong. If they've stopped production of it, it's out of production. The fact that you can special order it is neither here nor there, though it is useful if you want a cymbal that is [u]out of production[/u].

[QUOTE=mullets suk;15595356]
the only other thing on my set i would like to update is my crash. Right now im using an 18" AAX stage and a 16" ZBT. what are so cymbals i should look at that would compliment the AAX, and work well with softer music?[/QUOTE]

any help?

Sabian 17" HHX Evolution

do want something to compliment with a similar sound of contrast with a darker sound?

many people ignore the fact that a contrasting sound will still work with the other cymbal as long as the blend. it'll also add depth to you sound palate.

i like to have bright and dark cymbals. that's my reasoning behind having both paragon and hhx cymbals.

if you want a similar sound, just stick with a nice AAX cymbal. if you want a contrasting sound, try out HHX cymbals. hhx stage crashes are absolutely beautiful.




to be technical, complementary would actually apply an opposite sound much like complementary colors.

[QUOTE]to be technical, complementary would actually apply an opposite sound much like complementary colors.[/QUOTE]

this. ill check out the HHX, any other ideas?

[QUOTE=As The Roots Undo;15613520]Sabian 17" HHX Evolution[/QUOTE]

hey how are you

[quote=spirit;15613275]A custom order does not a production run make.

Or, stop being wrong. If they've stopped production of it, it's out of production. The fact that you can special order it is neither here nor there, though it is useful if you want a cymbal that is [U]out of production[/U].[/quote]

go to music store...order 16" radia chinese...they do it...you get it...guaranteed...try it if you want.

[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;15614117]go to music store...order 16" radia chinese...they do it...you get it...guaranteed...try it if you want.[/QUOTE]

So what you're saying is that they're still in production, but no longer listed in catalogues or on the Sabian site? Possible, but I'm unconvinced.

Having checked the Sabian site, they still list the 18" Radia Chinese.

It should be noted that we were talking about Radia chimes though.

It should also be noted I wasn't arguing specifically about the Radia series, just arguing against your statement.

As said, they're out of production but they'll still make them.

They are no longer part of a [U]production[/U] line. Hence out of production.

Indeed. They'll make any of their 'discontinued' cymbals

Is that the same with other brands?

Sometimes. I don't know of any off by heart but, in theory, yes.