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Darkness 04-23-2005 04:00 PM

More modern stuff like what?

Darkness 04-23-2005 04:26 PM

^ Thats what I said.

jamesclelland 04-23-2005 04:38 PM

you guys argue so much about this, does it really matter who tool was influenced by? the way i see it, if they still make music as good as every other cd they've released i'll be happy, even if it doesn't sound like zep or floyd

Rothmans 04-23-2005 04:50 PM

[QUOTE=Otherside][url]http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ZD5AIUOCF27C2985ENPEPDAGC[/url]

After listening to it again, I can say with 100% accuracy that it is not Tool. Oh well, it's still good.[/QUOTE]

That is definitely not tool that is pink floyd no question.

Dr. Jake Destructo 04-23-2005 05:40 PM

If noone ever argued about anything, what the fu[B][I][/I][/B]ck would we do here? It would get old just talking about the same stuff. "wuts ur favrit song???" "MJK is sooo hawt" It would turn into a spamfest if we didn't argue

(I doubt it would get as bad as what I said about Maynard, but I'm just trying to make a point)

DoG-I'm not sure of the album name, but check out the album with Achilles' Last Stand on it. Just ask in the Zep thread if you really want to hear it.

heavy metal kid 04-23-2005 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]How about Pink Floyd and Tool? I think Tool is the modern day version of Pink Floyd. They are both progressive, both have amazing lyricists. Also, Gilmour and Jones are not what I would call lead guitarists, but they are both very influential. Waters and Chancellor are both good bassists, not technically, but they can write a nice bassline. I would venture to say that Tool's biggest influence is Pink Floyd.

I think Tool did a cover of one or more Pink Floyd songs. Could someone YSI those, if you have them? (I beleive they're live versions, not studio covers, like No Quarter)

Thx[/QUOTE]

i would have to agree with you, i always think that pf and tool are somehow similar.

Syncratic 04-23-2005 06:06 PM

PF and Tool are pretty comparable IMO. They both have ambitious albums (Lateralus and The Wall), they both have talented musician's, and they both have intelligent and meaningful lyrics and messages.....
things you wish you could say about every band, but.....

Dried Muffin Remnants 04-23-2005 06:11 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Zoso wouldn't be my pick of where to find Zep's darker material. Look for some of their more modern stuff that's heavier.

Bonham and Carey are both immensely talented drummers, but the comparison ends there. They use 2 totally different styles of drumming, but they both execute it very well indeed.[/QUOTE]

THANK you. I'm basing a lot of this on heaviness, but when I'm talking Led Zep, I'm NOT talking about the rhythm and blues; I'm talking more of the layered dark, progressive stuff done later. Also, when I talk about Led Zep, I am completely disregarding Robert Plant. But at times, Page's distortion would sound exactly like Adam Jones, and John Bonham actually quite frequently sounded like Danny Carey.

But I think it's fair to say that Pink Floyd was an influence because of Tool's tendency to sound trippy. I'd say it's a combination between PF and LZ, to be honest. Sorry for disregarding PF earlier.

Dr. Jake Destructo 04-23-2005 06:13 PM

Otherside-That version of Comfortably Numb is neither Tool nor Pink Floyd. The same guy sings the entire song,and it doesn't really sound like Gilmour or Waters. :confused: The solo is good, but it has a different kind of feel than the typical Gilmour style.

EDIT: Come to think of it, this could very well be Dream Theater. Listen to it at 6:30. Now it's definitely not Gilmour. Then, after that, listen to the guys voice..He sounds like someone from our times. (Don't ask why, he just does)

Either way, it's a kickarse version.

Dried Muffin Remnants 04-23-2005 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]If noone ever argued about anything, what the fu[B][I][/I][/B]ck would we do here? It would get old just talking about the same stuff. "wuts ur favrit song???" "MJK is sooo hawt" It would turn into a spamfest if we didn't argue

(I doubt it would get as bad as what I said about Maynard, but I'm just trying to make a point)



[/QUOTE]


Yeah, point well taken.

Otherside 04-23-2005 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Otherside-That version of Comfortably Numb is neither Tool nor Pink Floyd. The same guy sings the entire song,and it doesn't really sound like Gilmour or Waters. :confused: The solo is good, but it has a different kind of feel than the typical Gilmour style.[/QUOTE]


Hmm this is true, I didn't think it sounded like PF either, but it was the only thing I could really think of :\

Huber 04-23-2005 06:28 PM

Alright guys I have some total n00b questions for the guitarists in this thread...

I got a new guitar recently, and I want to play some Tool tunes with my friends. I'd like to get to an Adam Jones sound. I was going to get a pedal, and didn't know which pedal I should get first that would lead me in the direction of Adam's sound.
(If possible. I honestly don't know a thing about this stuff.)

Dr. Jake Destructo 04-23-2005 06:31 PM

Just go buy 10 random pedals and you'll get that Triad sound. :p


[size=1]total n00b answer[/size]

There's lots of sites where you can find his EQ settings and stuff. do a search in the guitar forum for the soundfinder thread. It will have tons of links for you there. :thumb:

justinb123 04-23-2005 06:35 PM

so tool is a christian band never listened to em what r good ones

Dried Muffin Remnants 04-23-2005 06:43 PM

[QUOTE=justinb123]so tool is a christian band never listened to em what r good ones[/QUOTE]

:lol: The reason I laugh is that A LOT of their songs are quite anti-organized religion. So no, they aren't. They're progressive rock and border on metal. They're listed by many other sources as being metal, but on this site people mainly refer to them as heavy progressive rock.
I'll give you a song from each album, though:
"Sober" - Undertow
"46&2" - Ænima
"Lateralus" - Lateralus

There are MANY good songs by them. But those are ones that have gotten people interested.

justinb123 04-23-2005 06:54 PM

ty man ill give em a try

Magicaltroll 04-23-2005 06:58 PM

I heard Fourty Six & 2 on the radio today :eek:

maggot4875 04-23-2005 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]:lol: The reason I laugh is that A LOT of their songs are quite anti-organized religion. So no, they aren't. They're progressive rock and border on metal. They're listed by many other sources as being metal, but on this site people mainly refer to them as heavy progressive rock.
I'll give you a song from each album, though:
"Sober" - Undertow
"46&2" - Ænima
"Lateralus" - Lateralus

There are MANY good songs by them. But those are ones that have gotten people interested.[/QUOTE]
schism is also a popular song which got me interested

Dried Muffin Remnants 04-23-2005 07:06 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]I heard Fourty Six & 2 on the radio today :eek:[/QUOTE]

The only Tool songs I've heard on the radio are Schism, Lateralus, Sober, Ænema, and Stinkfist. Mainly Schism and Sober, though.

Arrakakaka 04-23-2005 08:09 PM

The only song's on the radio from Tool that I've heard were H., Schism, and Sober.

Futuro 04-23-2005 08:47 PM

h is my favorite tool song but i have never heard it on the radio :angry:

i have heard stinkfist and parabola (that was a big hit for a while on a local station)

Darkness 04-23-2005 08:47 PM

I don't think I've heard any tool on the radio... though I don't listen to the radio... at all..

Merkaba 04-23-2005 08:54 PM

Radio: Down here(SC) I've heard Sober,Schism,H.,Eulogy,46&2,enima,Stynkfist,Parabola

Futuro 04-23-2005 09:00 PM

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]Radio: Down here(SC) I've heard Sober,Schism,H.,Eulogy,46&2,enima,Stynkfist,Parabola[/QUOTE]

your so lucky, im jealous :(

i have all 5 of there major realesed cds anyways but its fun to hear your favorite band on the radio :D

Kage 04-23-2005 09:02 PM

Though I do owe my Tool fandom to the radio, I'm actually somewhat glad they don't play much Tool on my radio stations.

Kage 04-23-2005 09:09 PM

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]Alright guys I have some total n00b questions for the guitarists in this thread...

I got a new guitar recently, and I want to play some Tool tunes with my friends. I'd like to get to an Adam Jones sound. I was going to get a pedal, and didn't know which pedal I should get first that would lead me in the direction of Adam's sound.
(If possible. I honestly don't know a thing about this stuff.)[/QUOTE]

You simply won't be able to match his sound perfectly, but you can get close enough to satisfy yourself, especially since you're not a very experienced player (or maybe you are?).

Depending on your amp and what guitar you have, you really can't go wrong with an Ibanez Tube Screamer. That or a Boss DS-1 which shouldn't cost you more than $30-40. With those and a decent amp, you should be able to tweak your sound enough to get a sound you like. I don't know about Adam's specific EQ. He uses three different types of amps simultaneously, but I'm pretty sure he uses his amp distortion as opposed to a pedal or rack effect (and Mesa Boogie amp distortion is the king of all distortions).

Now, if you have a crappy amp, you can make it a ton better for relatively cheap by loading it with Vintage 30 speakers. If you do that, you should be set.

Dr. Jake Destructo 04-23-2005 10:36 PM

Last night, I was driving around with a few of my buddies(and girls lmao) and the DJ was talking, but in the background I could hear Triad Thundering away. I was like "Oh shii, it's Triad" and my friends were all "Ewwy let's put on some hip hop to shrink my balls."

:upset:

Yeah, it was wierd.

Darkness 04-23-2005 10:38 PM

^ what the hell...


Anyways its kinda cool how Adam and Tom got an equal number of votes in the polls.

Dr. Jake Destructo 04-23-2005 10:41 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]^ what the hell...


Anyways its kinda cool how Adam and Tom got an equal number of votes in the polls.[/QUOTE]

Tom ended up with 33, Adam had 30. :( Adam got snipped from the competition.

Dried Muffin Remnants 04-23-2005 10:43 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Last night, I was driving around with a few of my buddies(and girls lmao) and the DJ was talking, but in the background I could hear Triad Thundering away. I was like "Oh shii, it's Triad" and my friends were all "Ewwy let's put on some hip hop to shrink my balls."

:upset:

Yeah, it was wierd.[/QUOTE]

That brings up a new question. Wtf is so great about 50 cent? He's so god**** popular and he can't rap worth his name-sake.

Anyways, yea. Unfortunately a lot of the hot gals like sh!tty hip-hop.


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