paiste 2002 s/e's?

hi, guys. long time no see.

anyways. my local drum shop has a nice bargain atm: 8.88€ (~13.18US$) per inch for any Anatolian Ultimate or Emotion cymbal.
I've already tested the Ultimates, because they haven't set up the Emotions yet. I got stuck between an 16", 18" Power and 19" and narrowed my decision down to the 18" and 19". they both have their advantages. I think the 19" could also be very well used as a ride, but I liked the 18" more for its qualities as a "power"ful crash. however, maybe I could get more out of the 19" if I simply hit it with more force.
so, what I'm actually looking for is a new crash cymbal, which complements some good and loud rock music (I got fascinated about Ray Luzier's playing in "Leave It" with Army Of Anyone). I'm going to test out the Emotions as well this week, altough I read about them being suitable as "jazz" cymbals.

any thoughts about these cymbals?

[QUOTE=maniac0796;15595368]Hi Hats.

I want quite a fine sound when they're loose. Like, just resting on each other loosely. Nothing too thick that'll make it sound like a pair of trash cans resting together.

When fully depressed, they need to be quite audible, and project. That might be hard to accomplish with the above criteria of them being not to thick.

And a nice clean opening sound.

The problem I've found is that, because I play with my Hi Hats very loosely open, when I play other hats, they sound awful. Like, dustbin lids or something.

Anyone got any suggestions. I'm open to any brand.[/QUOTE]

New Beats

And welcome back tapioca, I remember you. I have one of your solos saved on my old computer still.

[quote=ygokazuki;15589813]thanks for the suggestion sir. HH is a bit out of my range but the AA one looks nice.
any other suggestions anyone?[/quote]

The AA one is pretty much the same, just a little brighter.

[QUOTE=spirit;15591285]Only comes in 16" and 18", to the best of my recollection, though I could be mistaken.

If money is no object, ask Sabian. They'll whip up anything you ask them to.

However, money tends to be an object.

I have to admit, I'm not sure what the question is. You know what you want.

If you're describing the sound you like, but want a rockier version in larger sizes, then get just get the 18" Evo, and try out some of the larger HHX's. I'd suggest the HHXplosions and HHXtremes. Also worth a look is the Evo O-Zone, if you want a trashy crash, not least because it comes in 20".

You may also want to check out Dream Bliss 20" Crash/Ride, or some of the other Dream ranges. Cheap, but not cheap sounding. I reckon one of the 20" crash/ride's would suit the kind of thing you're looking for.[/QUOTE]

thank ya.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;15596330]The AA one is pretty much the same, just a little brighter.[/QUOTE]oh sweetness, sounds good
thanks for all the help :)

[quote=Seafroggys;15596055]New Beats

And welcome back tapioca, I remember you. I have one of your solos saved on my old computer still.[/quote]

I tried new beats. They sounded horrible when Half open.

Paiste 2002 soundegdes?

They sound quite nice from the sample on the paiste website. I'll have to try em out in person though.

[quote=maniac0796;15596808]I tried new beats. They sounded horrible when Half open.[/quote]

having them fully closed or fully open doesn't sound any better.

new beats are for people who are either too lazy to find a sound they like, enjoy the sound of typicality, like/support conformity, have insensitive hearing, like bland noises, haven't heard any other hi hats, have only heard new beats and b8s, have fooled themselves into thinking they sound great for one of the following reasons:

they are a conformist, are too poor to buy new ones, don't want to admit they wasted money, like ****, are deaf, are part retard, are in various other forms of denial, were/is being molested by a relative.


hope that helps :)

[QUOTE='[your name here];15597105']having them fully closed or fully open doesn't sound any better.

new beats are for people who are either too lazy to find a sound they like, enjoy the sound of typicality, like/support conformity, have insensitive hearing, like bland noises, haven't heard any other hi hats, have only heard new beats and b8s, have fooled themselves into thinking they sound great for one of the following reasons:

they are a conformist, are too poor to buy new ones, don't want to admit they wasted money, like ****, are deaf, are part retard, are in various other forms of denial, were/is being molested by a relative.


hope that helps :)[/QUOTE]

You're really dumb.

you must fall under one of those categories.

:lol:
Agreed for the most part though. But if people like them it's their thing.

And i love my paragon hats to death even though most people say they aren't very good.

i find it funny how new beat owners are so sensitive about such comments. just look at how SF reacts to stuff like this.

it makes me wonder why someone who claims these cymbals are so great would get so upset when someone disagrees. perhaps they truly are in denial.

[QUOTE='[your name here];15597291']i find it funny how new beat owners are so sensitive about such comments. just look at how SF reacts to stuff like this.

it makes me wonder why someone who claims these cymbals are so great would get so upset when someone disagrees. perhaps they truly are in denial.[/QUOTE]

HAHAHA I FALL UNDER ONE OF THESE GROUPS OF PEOPLE BECAUSE I OWN A CERTAIN TYPE OF CYMBAL.

Grow the [size=2]f[/size]uck up. Oh my god, I like my hihats! Yeah, new beats aren't the most unique, but they're versatile, have good body, and sound good. A pair of hollow logo puts to shame any current hihats on the market (with the exception of meinl/istanbul/bosphorus stuff).

why are you so defensive? calm down before you break a hip you cranky old bastard.

notice how non new beat owners realize i'm only kidding, whereas new beat owners view this as a direct insult toward their very way of life.

why do you feel the necessity to promote you hi hats so much. do you need that much personal convincing.

it's a proven fact that people who play newbeats suck balls at drumming

aax stage's on the other hand are proven to be played by only the finest crop of drummers

[quote=Plan B.;15597494]
aax stage's on the other hand are proven to be played by only the finest crop of drummers[/quote]second only to hhx power hat players, naturally.

but we all know that goes with out saying.

evryone noes solar hats playas r the best in the world lolz.

second only to pearl pro hi hat players, naturally.

but we all know that goes without saying.

[QUOTE=maniac0796;15595368]Hi Hats.

I want quite a fine sound when they're loose. Like, just resting on each other loosely. Nothing too thick that'll make it sound like a pair of trash cans resting together.

When fully depressed, they need to be quite audible, and project. That might be hard to accomplish with the above criteria of them being not to thick.

And a nice clean opening sound.

The problem I've found is that, because I play with my Hi Hats very loosely open, when I play other hats, they sound awful. Like, dustbin lids or something.

Anyone got any suggestions. I'm open to any brand.[/QUOTE]

14" K Hats

[QUOTE='[your name here];15597373']why are you so defensive? calm down before you break a hip you cranky old bastard.

notice how non new beat owners realize i'm only kidding, whereas new beat owners view this as a direct insult toward their very way of life.

why do you feel the necessity to promote you hi hats so much. do you need that much personal convincing.[/QUOTE]

im pretty sure you have 'newbeat owners' confused with 'seafroggys'.

I agree.


Hell, I have New Beats.

I find new beats bland and boring.

All comes down to what you want really.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;15599341]I find new beats bland and boring.

All comes down to what you want really.[/QUOTE]

One of the best posts i've seen you make phil

[QUOTE=Plan B.;15597494]it's a proven fact that people who play newbeats suck balls at drumming

aax stage's on the other hand are proven to be played by only the finest crop of drummers[/QUOTE]

have you even listened to my audio?

[quote=ant_182;15596915]Paiste 2002 soundegdes?[/quote]

you suggest that for everything.

"I'm looking for a crash."
-Paiste 2002 soundedges
"I'm looking for a really nice Sabian china, preferably around 20"-22"."
-Paiste 2002 soundedges

<_<

>_>

Hehehe.

And New Beats are awesome, all of you stfu.

And AAX Stage Hats are bland pieces of crap and I'm sooooo glad I tried them out instead of just buying that pack.

Stage hats are horrible. I mean, they're alright if you have your foot and a breeze block on your pedal, because they're thick, and project like a mother bitch, but the moment your foot loosens off that pedal, they just sound awful.

I was playing my Teachers kit today, he has some 13" paiste signature dark energy hats. My god, they sound awesome. But cost so much :(

What? Stage hats are thin as hell :-/ Or the ones i tried were.