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Det_Nosnip 11-18-2005 01:27 AM

Another great band. :) Very underapreciated....Peter's a hell of a vocalist/guitarist/producer/whatever the hell else he does.

Kaiwaz 11-18-2005 06:00 PM

Yeah he is. I like their style. On the Opeth note, I burned Still Life for a friend of mine a while back, the next day he came over and told me how much he disliked it. It wasn't his style and he didn't like the screaming and what not. This was a few months ago. He came over last night and couldn't stop talking about the album. Now he has all of their albums. :lol:

Toaster 11-18-2005 10:18 PM

We are talking about Dark Tranquility right? I have only Damage Done, and it's Gothenburg perfection. It almost makes me want to give up buying melodic death albums, because it's so unbeatable.

Shattered_Future 11-18-2005 10:35 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]We are talking about Dark Tranquility right? I have only Damage Done, and it's Gothenburg perfection. It almost makes me want to give up buying melodic death albums, because it's so unbeatable.[/QUOTE]

If you think Damage Done is perfection, Character will make you spontaneously combust.

Think Damage Done, made better in every way possible by 500 times. Character is the single greatest melodic death album ever. There are NO filler tracks at all...every song is absolutely perfect.

Toaster 11-18-2005 10:46 PM

That good, eh.. I'll have to pick it up soon. I hate prioritizing albums!! This is at the top for sure, though.

Shattered_Future 11-18-2005 10:48 PM

If you want a teaser, go onto [URL="http://www.centurymedia.com"]http://www.centurymedia.com[/URL] and download Lost To Apathy.

If that doesn't confirm your love for Character, you don't deserve to live.

Kaiwaz 11-18-2005 11:01 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]If you want a teaser, go onto [URL="http://www.centurymedia.com"]http://www.centurymedia.com[/URL] and download Lost To Apathy.

If that doesn't confirm your love for Character, you don't deserve to live.[/QUOTE]


[I]Skydancer[/I] is my favorite Dark Tranquillity album, only because I was the only person on the [U]planet[/U] to have that tape in 1993. I still listen to it today. The recording isn't that great, but it schools [I]Character[/I] hands down.




N.P. Black Rose Immortal ~ Opeth

Darkness 11-18-2005 11:03 PM

Which would be the best DT album to get first? I was thinking The Gallery, as it has most of the stuff I've heard on it.

Special Brew 11-18-2005 11:05 PM

Do you guys remember when someone suggested a band called Soundsleep, because they were similar to softer Opeth? I'm searching, but I can't find that post in here. I'm desperately searching for info and stuff about this band, so please help me out if you can. Someone posted a link to a few mp3s quite awhile back.

Kaiwaz 11-18-2005 11:09 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Which would be the best DT album to get first? I was thinking The Gallery, as it has most of the stuff I've heard on it.[/QUOTE]


Yeah The Gallery is tight, The Minds I, Haven, and especially Skydancer.



[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes II]Do you guys remember when someone suggested a band called Soundsleep, because they were similar to softer Opeth? I'm searching, but I can't find that post in here. I'm desperately searching for info and stuff about this band, so please help me out if you can. Someone posted a link to a few mp3s quite awhile back.[/QUOTE]


I've never heard of them, or heard of any post about them.

Toaster 11-18-2005 11:11 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]If you want a teaser, go onto [URL="http://www.centurymedia.com"]http://www.centurymedia.com[/URL] and download Lost To Apathy.

If that doesn't confirm your love for Character, you don't deserve to live.[/QUOTE]

It's terrible, no more, no less. Awful.

Shattered_Future 11-18-2005 11:17 PM

I hope that's sarcasm I detect...:evil:

Toaster 11-18-2005 11:21 PM

:lol: I wanted to see your reaction. It's serisously awesome though. Production is way better, same with vox. Excited now! New albums are sweet.

Shattered_Future 11-18-2005 11:23 PM

The thing I like about Stanne's voice is it keeps getting progressively better each album, eventually culminating in an album like this.

Even Akefeldt can't hold a candle to him in certain parts of Character.

Special Brew 11-18-2005 11:24 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I've never heard of them, or heard of any post about them.[/QUOTE]
Someone was asking for similar bands to Opeth, and some guy suggested Soundsleep and posted a link to some mp3s of theirs. I'm pretty sure it was in here, because I don't know what other thread it could have been.

Kaiwaz 11-18-2005 11:26 PM

Please don't hate me, Future, but I think [I]Character[/I] is weak. It's the only Dark Tranquillity album I didn't buy.


Back To Opeth! [SIZE="5"]Everyone listen to Black Rose Immortal[/SIZE] [I][SIZE="4"]now![/SIZE][/I]



[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes II]Someone was asking for similar bands to Opeth, and some guy suggested Soundsleep and posted a link to some mp3s of theirs. I'm pretty sure it was in here, because I don't know what other thread it could have been.[/QUOTE]

I don't know man, look through the pages is my only suggestion.

Toaster 11-18-2005 11:29 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Please don't hate me, Future, but I think [I]Character[/I] is weak. It's the only Dark Tranquillity album I didn't buy.

[/QUOTE]

Off with his head!

Kaiwaz 11-18-2005 11:32 PM

:lol: :lol:

Spinal Pap 11-18-2005 11:32 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Back To Opeth! [SIZE="5"]Everyone listen to Black Rose Immortal[/SIZE] [I][SIZE="4"]now![/SIZE][/I][/QUOTE]

I just happen to be listening to BRI when I read that.

Special Brew 11-18-2005 11:33 PM

I looked through about 50 pages and gave up.

Shattered_Future 11-18-2005 11:35 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Please don't hate me, Future, but I think [I]Character[/I] is weak. It's the only Dark Tranquillity album I didn't buy.


Back To Opeth! [SIZE="5"]Everyone listen to Black Rose Immortal[/SIZE] [I][SIZE="4"]now![/SIZE][/I][/QUOTE]

Really? Man, it's just like Damage Done, except it's its older, wiser, more adept big brother.

Meh, your opinion.

I'd much rather prefer we listen to Finntroll...for some reason, I put them on. :lol:

Darkness 11-18-2005 11:37 PM

I have Nevermore going. :) I just can't stop listening to them.. I love them... almost as much as Opeth! :eek:


/Knows in the long run he will stick with Opeth more then Nevermore

Kaiwaz 11-18-2005 11:38 PM

[QUOTE=Spinal Pap]I just happen to be listening to BRI when I read that.[/QUOTE]


If you're serious, that's crazy! It's such an epic song. It's beauty warms me at night. :)



[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes II]I looked through about 50 pages and gave up.[/QUOTE]


Oh well, listen to Black Rose Immortal, it might clear your head. :D

Spinal Pap 11-18-2005 11:39 PM

I've heard a whole lot about Nevermore, I might have to check them out. Whats a good cd to start with?

[QUOTE=Flynn]If you're serious, that's crazy! It's such an epic song. It's beauty warms me at night.[/QUOTE]

lol well I wouldn't go that far but it is a beatiful song. The higher pitched growls have really grown on me.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Oh well, listen to Black Rose Immortal, it might clear your head. [/QUOTE]

Most definitely.

Kaiwaz 11-18-2005 11:42 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Really? Man, it's just like Damage Done, except it's its older, wiser, more adept big brother.

Meh, your opinion.

I'd much rather prefer we listen to Finntroll...for some reason, I put them on. :lol:[/QUOTE]



I like all [B]Dark Tranquillity[/B], I just couldn't get into [I]Character[/I]. I will never abandon [I]Skydancer[/I]. It's such a vital breakthrough album of the early[I] and [/I]late 90's. No one at the time was playing that style, and even today bands can't even come close to it's vibe.

Darkness 11-18-2005 11:44 PM

[QUOTE=Spinal Pap]I've heard a whole lot about Nevermore, I might have to check them out. Whats a good cd to start with?[/QUOTE]
You could seriously pick anyone, and be pleased. Dreaming Neon Black is a really heavy concept album with a pretty harsh production, Dead Heart in a Dead World isn't quite as heavy, but still very excellent in all ways, and the lastest, This Godless Endeavor is also awesome with blazing riffs and solos. Any of them can be considered their best. After these 3, then you can venture into their other albums.

Toaster 11-18-2005 11:44 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I have Nevermore going. :) I just can't stop listening to them.. I love them... almost as much as Opeth! :eek:


/Knows in the long run he will stick with Opeth more then Nevermore[/QUOTE]

Yeah, in the grand scheme Opeth is more unique. Nevermore, as much as I love them, will always be the masters of traditional song formulas.

Darkness 11-18-2005 11:45 PM

They venture out of traditional song formulas, at least, more then some bands.

Toaster 11-18-2005 11:47 PM

Compared to Opeth, though? They're like power pop in contrast.

Darkness 11-18-2005 11:48 PM

You can't compare a band like that to a [I]prog[/I] band though, there just a heavy metal band with some thrashy, death influences.

Toaster 11-18-2005 11:52 PM

Come on, you know what I'm saying. Opeth have more unique ideas and formulas, and are generally more interesting and rewarding to listen to. Nevermore [I]do[/I] have them beat in the guitarist departement, though.

Darkness 11-18-2005 11:53 PM

Opeth are in a league of their own though (like Tool), they shouldn't be compared to bands like Nevermore. And yes, Jeff Loomis slays Mikeal and Peter. :D Even they said that in those Opeth guitar lessons. :lol:

ATC 11-18-2005 11:59 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]Compared to Opeth, though? They're like power pop in contrast.[/QUOTE]

Haha, I want what you're smoking. Opeth are more often referred to as power pop than Nevermore.

Spinal Pap 11-19-2005 12:00 AM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]You could seriously pick anyone, and be pleased. Dreaming Neon Black is a really heavy concept album with a pretty harsh production, Dead Heart in a Dead World isn't quite as heavy, but still very excellent in all ways, and the lastest, This Godless Endeavor is also awesome with blazing riffs and solos. Any of them can be considered their best. After these 3, then you can venture into their other albums.[/QUOTE]

Alright, well in that case I'll just pick up the one with the coolest cover art.:thumb:

Darkness 11-19-2005 12:03 AM

[QUOTE=Spinal Pap]Alright, well in that case I'll just pick up the one with the coolest cover art.:thumb:[/QUOTE]
You will still be confronted with a tough choice. :thumb: :lol:

Special Brew 11-19-2005 12:04 AM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Oh well, listen to Black Rose Immortal, it might clear your head. :D[/QUOTE]
Actually, I'll put on some PsyOpus. I've been more into grindcore lately. I really only listen Opeth in the car these days. I'll get back to them, I always do. I go off on wild musical phases like this sometimes.

Toaster 11-19-2005 12:05 AM

[QUOTE=ATC]Haha, I want what you're smoking. Opeth are more often referred to as power pop than Nevermore.[/QUOTE]

:confused: You know I meant it in terms of songwriting, right? Opeth generally write 7 min + songs. Nevermore have more or less standard structures to their songs. I don't do drugs.

Darkness 11-19-2005 12:14 AM

Like I said, there so different, that comparing them is pretty much pointless. Mikeal writes long songs, Jeff writes more technical songs with mad shredding.

Toaster 11-19-2005 12:17 AM

I really want to continue the argument! :D

My final point: More technical songs with shredding are really common these days. If you compare Opeth and Nevermore soley in terms of song structure (which is very possible), Opeth have less traditional takes on it.

Darkness 11-19-2005 12:18 AM

Nobody does it like Nevermore my friend, nobody. Yes, Opeth often have stranger song structures. I knew that from the beginning, and I don't really know what you're arguing... :p


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