[QUOTE=spirit;15505041]
I was going to say it may be worth investigating having a brilliant finish top hat for that brilliant closed sound, but a darker, traditional finished cymbal for the warmer open sound. Just a thought.[/QUOTE]

how much extra would that be, if any. or should i contact a dealer?

[QUOTE=mullets suk;15505059]how much extra would that be, if any. or should i contact a dealer?[/QUOTE]

Well, any dealer will be able to get you any single hat in any size from any range from any company they deal with.

You know Zildjian's K/Z Combo hats? K top, Z bottom for warm sound with a strong chick. They started listing them because they became popular, possibly due to Weckl playing them back in the day when he was with Zildjian. Point is, you can do that too, you just have to ask. The only thing to be wary of is whether you'll like the sound.

Head to a store, and ask if you can play about with the hi hat configurations for a while. If it's any kind of decent shop, they'll have no problem with that, and may even have more advice to offer if you tell them what you're looking for.

the closest shop around me isnt that great, and most likely wouldn't let me really see them unless i should i was really interested in buying. Thanks for the info, i did email cymbalsonly about pricing, so hopefully ill hear back from them soon. (again sorry if i insulted you in the other thread)

thanks seafroggys. ill check it out next time im at a music store that carries one. id definately like to try some sabian. all i have now are zildjian but ive kinda got over having all one brand.

[QUOTE=mullets suk;15505894]the closest shop around me isnt that great, and most likely wouldn't let me really see them unless i should i was really interested in buying. Thanks for the info, i did email cymbalsonly about pricing, so hopefully ill hear back from them soon. (again sorry if i insulted you in the other thread)[/QUOTE]

Oh, no problem, here or in that other thread. I suppose I should have posted the second post first and the first one not at all. :p

Hey dude, sorry, I read it as you asking what the dude above you said about the cymbals sound lol. I'm debating a K hybrid and A Custom ride =/ and the size... ideas?

anyone here of saluda cymbals. they are cheaper then the versas, at around $150. their are no sound files though, so i have no idea if i should go with the sure thing at around $300 or the smaller company with out hearing it first.

i emailed saluda drums and they recommended these:
14" Diamond Medium Hats (thinner darker top with heavier bottom)
14" Diamond/Black Mist (medium dark top with regular bottom)

any ideas anyone.

i was looking around on sabians sound check and i noticed the rocktagons sond pretty good, and they sound like theyd suit my sound,

has anyone had any experience with these? are they good or just gimmicky,

any info would be appreciated

[QUOTE=ant_182;15508265]Hey dude, sorry, I read it as you asking what the dude above you said about the cymbals sound lol. I'm debating a K hybrid and A Custom ride =/ and the size... ideas?[/QUOTE]
K CUSTOM HYBRID

BUY IT

BUY IT NOW

:smash::smash:

[QUOTE=mullets suk;15508883]anyone here of saluda cymbals. they are cheaper then the versas, at around $150. their are no sound files though, so i have no idea if i should go with the sure thing at around $300 or the smaller company with out hearing it first.

i emailed saluda drums and they recommended these:
14" Diamond Medium Hats (thinner darker top with heavier bottom)
14" Diamond/Black Mist (medium dark top with regular bottom)

any ideas anyone.[/QUOTE]
No duh we've heard of Saluda cymbals. Hmm... I'm going to say this:

NEVER BUY ANYTHING MUSIC RELATED WITHOUT HEARING IT FIRST

[QUOTE=iamjoe2;15540345]i was looking around on sabians sound check and i noticed the rocktagons sond pretty good, and they sound like theyd suit my sound,

has anyone had any experience with these? are they good or just gimmicky,

any info would be appreciated[/QUOTE]
They have an interesting sound, for sure. If you like em, buy em.

Hi hats.

14".

Brightish.

Not A Custom bright.

Maybe a dark/bright hybrid.

Go.

14 (OK, 13 3/4") K Custom Hybrids

Perhaps.

[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/
Paiste-Signature-Series-Reflector-Dark-Crisp-HiHat-Cymbal-Pair?sku=447478[/url]

[quote=spirit;15540991]14 (OK, 13 3/4") K Custom Hybrids[/quote]

It's actually 13.25

[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;15544644]It's actually 13.25[/QUOTE]

Ach, I knew it was .25" from one of the usual suspects.

Ah well, cheers for the correct.

Hey all

Ok, I'm looking to expand my cymbal set and this is the first time buying so I dont know what bright, dark hybrid etc is, haha.

Im Looking for some hi-hats, 2 crashes and a ride. I play punk rock so anything that will suit that type of music such as Green Day, Blink 182 etc etc... One crash for repeat hitting like in the chorus and then the other one to accent it, at say the end of a line if you understand, lol, I really am new :P

Looking around mid price range and Im not bothered about brand just that they sound good and will last awhile :D

Thanks alot.

do you currently have cymbals? if so which ones.

i ask this because if you already have some entry level cymbals such as B8s or zxt's then you should just save up until you afford top of the line cymbals. either that or buy some more of these to fill in for what you don't currently have.

buying mid range cymbals is a big waste of money. you won't be the least bit happy with the purchase because you'll come to realize that for a little more you could have gotten something that sounds really nice. also, mid range cymbals don't sound any better really.



i always say, buy entry level cymbals, learn proper technique so that you won't break expensive and thinner ones, then once you've saved enough, go for top of the line.

a custom crashes, a custom hi hats :) ( i know they're pro level)

Ok.

I've got a stock 18" Pearl Crash Ride atm. I think your right about the mid price range, I've been playing for around 1 and a hlaf years so hopefully I wouldnt break them.

About the A Custom Cymbals, which models are sizes would be best as I dont want to waste my money on something that I don't want.

Thanks

you really need to make sure you are gonna like the sound. a customs are common for that style, however, i hate them quite a bit. their hi hats aren't bad though.

i much prefer a series crashes and rides. the point i'm making is: if at all possible try them out at a store. if that's not possible, at the very least, listen to them on zildjian's web site.

Anything bright will do the trick. Think AAX, A Custom, AA, Avedis etc.

Also, neither of the bands are more than pop-rock ;)

pop punk/ pop rock lol. Punk ftw. What are rise against classed as?

ive decided to get a stagg black metal bell but non af the stores around me sell them so im buying blind....

which size/ weight would be the best to emulate a ride cymbal bell

i have a flat ride so that would be its main purpose

My 6.5" zilbel is a little bit bright than my ride bell, definetely a lot more piercing, though. My 9" ice bell is still fairly similar to my ride bell... but a lot more musical (lulz :smash:) than the zilbel.

Really... no two bells are the same. I've tried zilbels and ice bells I haven't liked, but I love mine.

Right I need new hi hats and a crash.
Looking to spend up to £300 max

Style wise general rock.
I havent bought new gear in ages and Im not up to date which is really bad

I'd get 18 or 17 A Custom Crash
and some a custom hats, mastersounds imo or paiste 2002's. I'd get 2nd hand for your budget. Unless you wait, try out all the cymbals in the store and get it that way?

[QUOTE=ant_182;15570071]I'd get 18 or 17 A Custom Crash
and some a custom hats, mastersounds imo or paiste 2002's. I'd get 2nd hand for your budget. Unless you wait, try out all the cymbals in the store and get it that way?[/QUOTE]

well Im going o head out on my day off this week and try some out anyway and haggle the guy who works at the shop. Ive brought down he price the last couple of times Ive bought stuff in there.

Cheers for the recommendaions though.

no problem, I definately recomend a customs, also look at the k crashes. although they will be more pricey. But yeh good luck

[quote=iamjoe2;15566558]ive decided to get a stagg black metal bell but non af the stores around me sell them so im buying blind....

which size/ weight would be the best to emulate a ride cymbal bell

i have a flat ride so that would be its main purpose[/quote]


Black metal bells only come in the one weight but i'd reccomend 6". Its a lot more musical and pleasant than your average ride bell IMO.

they come in light medium and heavy on the 7 in

does anyone own any, if so audio maybe?