Me toosies. I know this guy who was like - "The Beatles?? They suck." He still doesn't like them on account that they're "pussies". They were actually hardarses in their day!

[QUOTE=bahamut_ali]Me toosies. I know this guy who was like - "The Beatles?? They suck." He still doesn't like them on account that they're "pussies". They were actually hardarses in their day![/QUOTE]

Well not really once they became big. Brian Epstein forced them to be clean shaven and where suits so their image wouldn't create controversy. But before that they were pretty bad-a[SIZE="2"]s[/SIZE]s.

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]Well not really once they became big. Brian Epstein forced them to be clean shaven and where suits so their image wouldn't create controversy. But before that they were pretty bad-a[SIZE="2"]s[/SIZE]s.[/QUOTE]

It would be cool to see the beatles in todays time

In my car and home, I have a rule that we listen to only the music I want. So, whenever my friemds are at my place, I play them Beatles, The Who, The Dead, Floyd, Rush, and so on.

The Beatles were very contraversial. Calling them "pussies" is being close minded. Think, they introduced drugs, sex, and questioning to their generattion.

[QUOTE]Think, they introduced drugs, sex, and questioning to their generattion.[/QUOTE]

I disagree, if there is anyone who has attributed to contributing more questionable topics, it's Elvis.

I don't know, he had an impact, no doubt, but not nearly as wide-scale as The Beatles.

Maybe if I rephrase that- maybe they did not introduce those topics, but they certainly made them a large phenomenon.

Elvis hit the scene in 54, close to a decade before the Beatles started exploding globally, so you could argue it was different generations if you wanted.

[QUOTE=rockinbass17]In my car and home, I have a rule that we listen to only the music I want. So, whenever my friemds are at my place, I play them Beatles, The Who, The Dead, Floyd, Rush, and so on.

The Beatles were very contraversial. Calling them "pussies" is being close minded. Think, they introduced drugs, sex, and questioning to their generattion.[/QUOTE]

Your joking...Bob Dylan definitely introduced drugs and questioning to their generation, maybe not sex though. Hell, he introduced drugs and questioning to the Beatles. I'd say the Rolling Stones were probably even more advocates than the Beatles in terms of sex and drugs. But anyways...I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing. The Beatles aren't pussies at all. They weren't big macho he-men...but they were pretty badass.

Haha, does anyone remember He-Man?

edit - No teenagers in the mid to late sixties listened to ****ing Elvis. Elvis was an officer in the Vietnam War, he was also the FBI's drug narc...I'm sure a few million people still listened to him though. He's still Elvis for gods sakes. Elvis became popular again in the early seventies for a while when he was working at Vegas and stuff...before he became a big mess and died.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]Your joking...Bob Dylan definitely introduced drugs and questioning to their generation, maybe not sex though. Hell, he introduced drugs and questioning to the Beatles. I'd say the Rolling Stones were probably even more advocates than the Beatles in terms of sex and drugs. .[/QUOTE]

I agree completely on both those points.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]edit - No teenagers in the mid to late sixties listened to ****ing Elvis. Elvis was an officer in the Vietnam War, he was also the FBI's drug narc...I'm sure a few million people still listened to him though. He's still Elvis for gods sakes. Elvis became popular again in the early seventies for a while when he was working at Vegas and stuff...before he became a big mess and died.[/QUOTE]
Hence arguing that they would be two different generations.

No question the Beatles were an exteremly potent catalyst for change in the time. People (like Bob Dylan) influenced the nation by influencing the Beatles. Not to say, of course, that his influence wasn't substantial on it's own


I must have missed this He-Man episode

The Beatles are a lot more bad *** than the stones. If you know anything about the Beatles day's in the cavern. They played for like 12 hours straight there, and would eat and sleep on stage. Not to mention kick bum's in the stage if they climbed on stage. John even threw a knife to scare one of the guy's that was climbing on the stage. The Beatles worked their *** off in the cavern and deserved everything they got.

[QUOTE=Kaleidoscope Eyes]No question the Beatles were an exteremly potent catalyst for change in the time. People (like Bob Dylan) influenced the nation by influencing the Beatles. Not to say, of course, that his influence wasn't substantial on it's own


I must have missed this He-Man episode[/QUOTE]

He-Man was a really old cartoon/movie type thing with this super strong guy named He-Man and a girl named She-Woman. I think. Haha. Didn't you ever see that Ghost Busters movie where they say "Who ya gonna call?" and all the little kids are supposed to say "Ghost Busters!" but instead they start chanting "He Man!" Oh the memories...

I think the 60's wouldn't have been the same without Dylan because he influenced all those early rock bands like the Beatles to become more interested in the art and beauty of music instead of just cliche pop songs. And the 60's definitely wouldn't have been the same without the Beatles because they sort of introduced that same concept to the entire world.

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]The Beatles are a lot more bad *** than the stones. If you know anything about the Beatles day's in the cavern. They played for like 12 hours straight there, and would eat and sleep on stage. Not to mention kick bum's in the stage if they climbed on stage. John even threw a knife to scare one of the guy's that was climbing on the stage. The Beatles worked their *** off in the cavern and deserved everything they got.[/QUOTE]
See, Lunch are you saying I should just stand by and let people say crap like this. I think not, I'll let this one slide..... but after that.
We've been through this before, and I think it was decided by me the Stones are more bad arse.:P
[SIZE="1"](Stones played just as hardcore in their early 60's and early 70's day.)[/SIZE]

Unlike the Beatles, Bob Dylan's postion in the music world wasn't garunteed. Someone was bound to come across and make it big in America, and the Beatles happened to be them, but now Bob Dylan no one was going to be Bob Dylan if Bob Dylan didn't... ugh, that made sense I hope.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]See, Lunch are you saying I should just stand by and let people say crap like this. I think not, I'll let this one slide..... but after that.
We've been through this before, and I think it was decided by me the Stones are more bad arse.:P
[SIZE="1"](Stones played just as hardcore in their early 60's and early 70's day.)[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

No man, I was just saying I don't think you should intentionally shift conversation to the Stones as much, but maybe you didn't use to do it either. In a compare contrast with the Beatles, I have absolutely no problem with you discussing the Stones here.

We all know who real bada[SIZE="2"]sses[/SIZE] here are anyway.
/Points to avatar.

[QUOTE=Lunch]No man, I was just saying I don't think you should intentionally shift conversation to the Stones as much, but maybe you didn't use to do it either. In a compare contrast with the Beatles, I have absolutely no problem with you discussing the Stones here.

We all know who real bada[SIZE="2"]sses[/SIZE] here are anyway.
/Points to avatar.[/QUOTE]

Well I can agree that without the who Paul probably wouldn't have written Helter Skelter.

Ok, the badasses of the 60's, we'll just end the discussion with saying that The Beatles, The Who, the Stones, and Dylan were all equally badass in influencing people to question and all that.

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]The Beatles are a lot more bad *** than the stones. If you know anything about the Beatles day's in the cavern. They played for like 12 hours straight there, and would eat and sleep on stage. Not to mention kick bum's in the stage if they climbed on stage. John even threw a knife to scare one of the guy's that was climbing on the stage. The Beatles worked their *** off in the cavern and deserved everything they got.[/QUOTE]

I mentioned before that in the Beatles' very early days they were very bad-as[I]s[/I]. But when each band became familiar to the public eye, the Beatles were known as the "clean-shaven innocent boys" while the Rolling Stones were known for their "bad boy" image.

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]I mentioned before that in the Beatles' very early days they were very bad-as[I]s[/I]. But when each band became familiar to the public eye, the Beatles were known as the "clean-shaven innocent boys" while the Rolling Stones were known for their "bad boy" image.[/QUOTE]

We'll the Beatle's wen't from bad-as[COLOR="Silver"]s[/COLOR] to clean cut, and the Stone's went from bad boy's to a safer act than Janet Jackson at the superbowl :p

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]We'll the Beatle's wen't from bad-as[COLOR="Silver"]s[/COLOR] to clean cut, and the Stone's went from bad boy's to a safer act than Janet Jackson at the superbowl :p[/QUOTE]
Over a span of 40 years... And the Stones started out just like the Beatles FYI.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]
Unlike the Beatles, Bob Dylan's postion in the music world wasn't garunteed. Someone was bound to come across and make it big in America, and the Beatles happened to be them, but now Bob Dylan no one was going to be Bob Dylan if Bob Dylan didn't... ugh, that made sense I hope.[/QUOTE]
YOu are confusing making it big at the time with being remembered. We dont remember bands because they where different and made some sort of change. Their are countless bands that have made it "big" then just fall off the face of the earth.

[QUOTE=guitrguy]YOu are confusing making it big at the time with being remembered. We dont remember bands because they where different and made some sort of change. Their are countless bands that have made it "big" then just fall off the face of the earth.[/QUOTE]
That wasn't even my point, and most bands that make it big are remembered... hello Michael Jackson? The Eagles? Elvis? Tom Jones? Name me a band that has made it big that dissappeared, unless you are talking about one hit wonders and I'm missreading your post. Any way my point was, that it was just a matter of time before America was "conquered" and the Beatles just happened to be the ones who did it.

Oh and by my defination big = more then two hit albums. Perferably three.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]That wasn't even my point, and most bands that make it big are remembered... hello Michael Jackson? The Eagles? Elvis? Tom Jones? Name me a band that has made it big that dissappeared, unless you are talking about one hit wonders and I'm missreading your post. Any way my point was, that it was just a matter of time before America was "conquered" and the Beatles just happened to be the ones who did it.

Oh and by my defination big = more then two hit albums. Perferably three.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully Nickelback will be one of those bands that "made it" but are forgotten in the future.

But yeah, pretty much any band that made it big at some point will never be completely forgotten. There'll always be a cult following for a band somewhere at least.

Isn't it fun to play the 'What if?' game. You know -- 'What if the Stones was the band to first make it in America?' 'What if the Beatles never got together?' --

I'm probably dating myself, but back in college many moons ago, we used to get high and debate things like that. 'What if Ringo died as a child -- who would be the drummer?' What if Keith Moon was the Beatles drummer? Would they have made it as a band?' 'What if there was no Beatles?' 'What if Buddy Holly lived? -- or Hendrix?' 'What if?'

We used to spend hours in that esoteric vein -- which rated right up there with the amusment of 'discovering' the patterns on the tips of your fingers....:D

[QUOTE=bcf717]Isn't it fun to play the 'What if?' game. You know -- 'What if the Stones was the band to first make it in America?' 'What if the Beatles never got together?' --

I'm probably dating myself, but back in college many moons ago, we used to get high and debate things like that. 'What if Ringo died as a child -- who would be the drummer?' What if Keith Moon was the Beatles drummer? Would they have made it as a band?' 'What if there was no Beatles?' 'What if Buddy Holly lived? -- or Hendrix?' 'What if?'

We used to spend hours in that esoteric vein -- which rated right up there with the amusment of 'discovering' the patterns on the tips of your fingers....:D[/QUOTE]

I don't think I've ever really taken the time to think about that kind of stuff. It seems kind of pointless to me because the possibilities of things that could've changed if this or that had happened are nearly endless. I think I'd go cross-eyed trying to think of them all.

I just realized I've never stared at my finger tips either:-/...am I missing out?

No one's said anything for two days. So I'll start it up...my friend just pointed out to me that Ringo Starr is in the Warner Brothers version of Alice In Wonderland. He is dressed up as a turtle and sings a song about nonsense, lol it was quite funny to see.

Hmm I've only ever seen the Disney Alice in Wonderland. I think I'll have to check that out.

Yeah, I've seen the Disney version before too but never seen that other one.

I really like[I] Let It Be...Naked[/I]. I just picked it up on Saturday, and it's really gotten me into the rest of songs on [i]Let It Be[/i]. I didn't really listen to it much, but they're actually all pretty cool songs. My favorite newly discovered songs are "Dig A Pony", "Don't Let Me Down", "I Me Mine", basically the whole album aside from "Let It Be" and "Two of Us". (Those are still cool, but those are the only two I really listened to before buying Naked).

[QUOTE=magicbus]I really like[I] Let It Be...Naked[/I]. I just picked it up on Saturday, and it's really gotten me into the rest of songs on [i]Let It Be[/i]. I didn't really listen to it much, but they're actually all pretty cool songs. My favorite newly discovered songs are "Dig A Pony", "Don't Let Me Down", "I Me Mine", basically the whole album aside from "Let It Be" and "Two of Us". (Those are still cool, but those are the only two I really listened to before buying Naked).[/QUOTE]

What about Across the Universe??:eek: