[QUOTE=psychocream;15434371]hey, off to buy some new cymbals on thurs. Does this seem like a good set:

[B]-14" new beats[/B]
-16" A custom fast crash
[B]-18" Dark crash medium thin[/B]
[B]-22" ping ride[/B]
-20" oriental china[/QUOTE]

..... :O

im looking for a bright, but lower pitched crash cymbal heres an idea of what im looking for compared to what i have.

16" sabian b8 thin crash- perfect, but id like somthing lower pitched to complement it.

16" sabian xs20 rock crash, too dark...

18" AA Medium Crash, maybe Medium Thin.

I'm looking for a large size crash. I'm dead set on a another Vault crash. Just the size I'm not sure. I have a 17 inch and its my main crash which i use to groove on and what not. But I definitely want a bigger sound from the crash. Would a 19inch over do it or no? I would be using it as my main crash to groove on and what not. Wouldn't over power too much?

I shouldn't see why it would.

Just wondering, In a live setting if it would just crush the sound of any smaller cymbal. Also what would have more body 18 or 19? Is the inch difference that big of a difference?

I assume going somewhere, like a shop, to try them out is out of the question?

Try Sabian's Sound Check thingy.

Anyway, the 19" is clearly going to have more body. All other things being equal, it's a bigger cymbal. And there's no reason it should overpower anything. In a live setting, cymbals don't linger in the soundscape for long, at least not at any sort of level you can actually hear.

I have the option to try it out just not the option with the 18 inch.
Thanks guys.

Well I have a 15" that doesnt get drowned out by 18" crashes.

Sweet. I'm just going for bigger crashes since I had a 16" and it just couldn't stand up to being used all the time so I went for the 17" and now I'm thinking to have that and a 19" in my setup.

Okay, if I buy a new crash instead of a pair of New Beats.

I want a crash that has lots of body, versatile, quick decay..

Something Medium-Thin.

Apart from that, your criteria are so vague, it's hard to advise. Avoid Z Customs, AA Metal-X, etc.

Yeah I know to avoid those lines.I want a cymbal I can use for Hardcore music, but still be able to use for just rock.

Hi gize, I'm looking for a small effect cymbal, so a splash or mini china or china kang or something. Has to be versatile and provide a reasonably quick accent but with quite a rich-bodied sound. Preferably from 8-12".

Anyone with any experience in these, I'm looking at the Sabian AAX, AA, Zildjian A Custom, Paiste RUDE(probably not), and Istanbul Alchemy rock at the moment.

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well at that size it should be reasonably quick. I recomend oriental chinas, a custom splashes or other brand equvilents.

[quote=Snarz;15442719]Okay, if I buy a new crash instead of a pair of New Beats.

I want a crash that has lots of body, versatile, quick decay..[/quote]

AAXplosions...without a doubt...

If you're using it for hardcore go with 19" or 20"

[QUOTE=Snarz;15442719]Okay, if I buy a new crash instead of a pair of New Beats.

I want a crash that has lots of body, versatile, quick decay..[/QUOTE]

wait, I just saw this post.....what?

seafroggys you said it yourself...New Beats ****ing suck.

Prove it ;)

[quote=Stickman Sam;15474974]Hi gize, I'm looking for a small effect cymbal, so a splash or mini china or china kang or something. Has to be versatile and provide a reasonably quick accent but with quite a rich-bodied sound. Preferably from 8-12".

Anyone with any experience in these, I'm looking at the Sabian AAX, AA, Zildjian A Custom, Paiste RUDE(probably not), and Istanbul Alchemy rock at the moment.

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10" UFiP Samba Splash: check cymbalsonly.com for a mp3 of it.

[quote=Snarz;15442880]Yeah I know to avoid those lines.I want a cymbal I can use for Hardcore music, but still be able to use for just rock.[/quote]

19" A Custom Medium.

^this. Well tbh any sort of big med. crash would do it.


Anyone ever tried the Paiste Giant Beat cymbals? I've been reading about them and they sound in theory really nice. Also the sound clips sound quite nice.

I have however heard that they're not very loud. Anyone got any idea if they'd be loud enough to keep up with 15" hats and 24" ride(both 2002) and like full on band situation(amps and pas etc but no drum mics)?

For reference music I play ranges from electric blues(cream, hendrix etc) to classic rock(sabbath, maiden, deep purple etc) to alt rock(RATM, audioslave etc) to more mainstream rock(RHCP, foo fighers etc).

Any one help?



(that was long winded lol)

china: soft rock to heavy rock. 17-19 prolly. looking into AA's, AAX's, A Custom, K Custom, China boy hi/low (btw what is the difference in the hi and lows. i really cant tell much but that is from the online deal so could be way bigger in person) im looking for a crash too. same genre. i have a 16'' a custom crash at the moment but i definately need something a bit bigger for unmiced gigs. sorry if its too vague. i dont know exactly what i want yet. just trying to get ideas.

[QUOTE=fastlane;15500218]china: soft rock to heavy rock. 17-19 prolly. looking into AA's, AAX's, A Custom, K Custom, China boy hi/low (btw what is the difference in the hi and lows. i really cant tell much but that is from the online deal so could be way bigger in person) im looking for a crash too. same genre. i have a 16'' a custom crash at the moment but i definately need something a bit bigger for unmiced gigs. sorry if its too vague. i dont know exactly what i want yet. just trying to get ideas.[/QUOTE]

Might want to try AA Medium-thin or even Medium. The medium-thin might be more versatile for soft rock, but the medium is definitally killer for heavier rock.

I need a second ride that is mainly used for crashing. My main ride as of now is a 20" K Heavy, which is a great ride, just not ideal for crashing.

Look at the A Custom rides. Very nice crash sound.

Also, the K Custom Hybrid ride has a VERY nice crash sound (at least what I've heard on the sound clips).

What kind of crash sound?

As it is a ride, a BIG powerful crash sound? and longer lasting? Also the brilliant finish might make it bright? Just a guess...

hey guys, i might actually have a job in the next few weeks and that means ill have money =) im looking at hi-hats again, since i had some unexpected expenses i had to pay for last time i was seriously looking for hats (about 3 months ago). i'm looking for hats that have a bright closed sound with a warmer half open sound (if thats even possible).

the cymbals that i paricularly like are the Bosphorus 14" versa and the ottoman jazz hi-hats by istanbul mehmet.

what can you tell me about them and there diversity.

also any one hear of the Saluda and any of there cymbals?

I don't now about the Ottomans, but Bosphorus are always a good bet. I don't know the range personally, but if you like them, I don't see what should stop you.

I was going to say it may be worth investigating having a brilliant finish top hat for that brilliant closed sound, but a darker, traditional finished cymbal for the warmer open sound. Just a thought.

[QUOTE=ant_182;15504639]As it is a ride, a BIG powerful crash sound? and longer lasting? Also the brilliant finish might make it bright? Just a guess...[/QUOTE]

I meant what kind of crash sound does the guy want. Perhaps I should have made it clearer.

And both the cymbals that crazyguy mentioned are quite thin, which is why they crash well, so chances are they can make as big or small a crash sound as you want. In fact, I know the Hybrid is as versatile as you want. I've played the ride, hats and crashes. In fact, i played them earlier today. Love the sound of them.

Anyway, what kind of crash sound do you want from your ride, Sabian4015?