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Yeah I knew that, but it seems Isolation Years [I]could[/I] fit into the story..
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[QUOTE=ElectricalStorm]Heh I love GR too. Made a semi-long post for the benefit of GR about 2-3 weeks ago and got practicly no direct replys--where were you GR lovers then. Hopefully these forums will still exist in 2008, which is probably when I'll have enough posts (judging by my current rate) to convince people to actually bother reading my posts.
Oh and Ghost Reveries is a concept album but the song Isolations Years is not part of the album's theme. The first seven songs contain the story. This is just clarifying the brief description of the album earlier found a couple pages back--its not directed at anyone in particular.[/QUOTE] The only posters whose opinion of you really matters are intelligent enough to know that postcount/joindate =/= how good a poster you are. There's lots of noobs that are much better posters than people that have been around forever. GR isn't really a concept album, anyway. Mike said, IIRC, he thought at first it was going to be and wrote Ghost of Perdition and Baying of the Hounds, but then he wrote Isolation Years and got into writing stuff that didn't fit in. That's why some of the tracks seem to fit together. My guess would be that GoP, BotH, TGC and maybe one or two more fit in with the concept, but it's not a full fledged concept album. |
I realize that but that's not what bothers me. What bothers me is that I take to the time to make a focused post about opeth and it often gets ignored in the midst of a thread that's sole purpose is to discuss the band that I'm writing about. I don't really care of what people think of me so long as my input is still considered.
My post about Ghost Reveries is evidence of that. I left no room for error by putting out my opinion as directly as I could manage. Morever this "opinion" was one that was held by very few and was stated in a way so as to challenge the alternate opinions and thereby encourage discussion. As a result, people could have certainly agreed with me, but more importantly they could have also done the very opposite--they could have picked me apart with a strong detailed rebuttal as to why they see GR in a different light. Believe or not I would have just as happy if not happier with the second scenario. But neither of these things happened, my post was just acknowledged by a couple ppl (and I appreciate those posters) and (seemingly) completely ignored by everyone else. Opeth are a multifaceted and progressive band. Everyones interpretation of their music holds truth and is part of the greater picture. By presenting and debating these said personal interpretations we should be able to get a better understanding of the greater picture--and therein lies the beauty of both Opeth as a band and this forum as a medium for discussion. Does anyone actually feel that their feelings of the band are the only "right/correct" feelings concerning opeth's music? I hope not. |
I read your old post, but since I stated my opinion many times, I didn't feel like saying it again then discussing it with you. It had nothing to do with your post count.
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you're right mentioned right here dude :thumb:
"my post was just acknowledged by a couple ppl (and I appreciate those posters)" And the post count thing was partly tongue in cheek and not my main point. I've seen other posters with higher post counts in this and different areas dealt the same way. It's still personally frustrating though. |
[QUOTE=Flynn]Yeah it is. We're working on [I]Wreath[/I] just to mess around. We usually don't cover anything, but we like to throw in a few covers now and then when we go to bars locally.[/QUOTE]
Wreath is a friggin sick song... I don't care if that riff repeats to much, its so sweet. And at the end when it kicks back in, and he does that little scream... perfection. :thumb: Oh and the second solo is awesome. |
[QUOTE=ElectricalStorm]I realize that but that's not what bothers me. What bothers me is that I take to the time to make a focused post about opeth and it often gets ignored in the midst of a thread that's sole purpose is to discuss the band that I'm writing about. I don't really care of what people think of me so long as my input is still considered.
My post about Ghost Reveries is evidence of that. I left no room for error by putting out my opinion as directly as I could manage. Morever this "opinion" was one that was held by very few and was stated in a way so as to challenge the alternate opinions and thereby encourage discussion. As a result, people could have certainly agreed with me, but more importantly they could have also done the very opposite--they could have picked me apart with a strong detailed rebuttal as to why they see GR in a different light. Believe or not I would have just as happy if not happier with the second scenario. But neither of these things happened, my post was just acknowledged by a couple ppl (and I appreciate those posters) and (seemingly) completely ignored by everyone else. Opeth are a multifaceted and progressive band. Everyones interpretation of their music holds truth and is part of the greater picture. By presenting and debating these said personal interpretations we should be able to get a better understanding of the greater picture--and therein lies the beauty of both Opeth as a band and this forum as a medium for discussion. Does anyone actually feel that their feelings of the band are the only "right/correct" feelings concerning opeth's music? I hope not.[/QUOTE] The reason I almost never post in this thread is because the discussion is incredibly cyclical and boring. It consists of users consistently repeating literally hundreds of times what their favorite Opeth songs are, and then that monotony is broken by new users asking for recommendations, which is followed by hundreds of "Get BWP, or maybe Still Life or Morningrise, or wait **** it every album by Opeth is amazing so good luck :thumb:." :rolleyes: I like how I've attempted to discuss Flynn's point of view with him and he has completely ignored my posts, only responding to those who agree with him. I don't think he's a bad poster, but I think the level of fanboyism in this thread is higher than in any other official thread and so the discussion is more stagnant than a bloody swamp. It's really unbecoming to ignore attempts at detailed discussion. Even if you're too lazy to come up with rebuttal, at least acknowledge it instead of ignoring it. I hate coming into this thread and trying to come up with contrary arguments to spark discussion, because everybody is invariably like: "Oh...what? You don't think this is good? Well I do, opinions are opinions, deal with it, Opeth are amazing. :D Back to how much 'The Drapery Falls' rules for the millionth time..." |
I actually really agree with that post, there is a bit to much fanboyism in this thread..
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You're right. We need more topics for discussion in this thread.
How is it that Metallica threads can go on for 5 times as many posts as this one? What do they TALK about? |
Does anyone else think 'Harlequin forest' meanders around to a point where it just sounds directionless?
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haha, the irony of my last post.
The need for more creative conversation and I reply with that. |
[QUOTE=lost_profits]haha, the irony of my last post.
The need for more creative conversation and I reply with that.[/QUOTE] isnt your user name a unsigned band?. i saw the lost profits at their free madison show the other week. good stuff |
[QUOTE=Jude]You're right. We need more topics for discussion in this thread.
How is it that Metallica threads can go on for 5 times as many posts as this one? What do they TALK about?[/QUOTE] It's the first place all the n00bs go, and that accounts for a large majority of the posts there. |
First opeth song I heard was The Moor. I've been hooked ever since.
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alright, intelligent discussion in the making :rolleyes:
Per adds no backing vocals o nthe new album, but he does so live, and I think he has a great voice. anyone dislike the fact that Per didn't add anything vocal wise? and what do you thiink of Per's voice, and any thoughts from Mikeal why he coose to not add Per? |
I think Per has an amazing voice, on my dvd, when they sing "Harvest"..I was like " Oh my god, that blows away anything I could ever write" it sounds so much better live than the studio version IMO...
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[QUOTE=lost_profits]Does anyone else think 'Harlequin forest' meanders around to a point where it just sounds directionless?[/QUOTE]
I like the 1st half, but then it turns into a bunch of breakdown riffs that thankfully aren't like metalcore breakdowns, but gets kinda bland imo. I don't know what Opeth were going for there. So is anyone going to the LA show on Oct. 16th? I might actually skip out on this one because I have a really important group project for school the next day and we were planning on meeting sunday evening. It sucks, but if Opeth comes around again next year, I'm ok with it. And if I skip out, I'm looking to sell my ticket for $15 if ticketmaster doesn't refund my ticket. |
[QUOTE=epihasi]I think Per has an amazing voice, on my dvd, when they sing "Harvest"..I was like " Oh my god, that blows away anything I could ever write" it sounds so much better live than the studio version IMO...[/QUOTE]
Definatly. Pers a nice addition to the band indeed, but sometimes the keyboards are a bit over done... I wish he'd just take the backseat during some parts on Ghost Reveries. And yeah, he should have done some backing vocals to... Silly Mike trying to take the spotlight.. |
[QUOTE=Cain]The reason I almost never post in this thread is because the discussion is incredibly cyclical and boring. It consists of users consistently repeating literally hundreds of times what their favorite Opeth songs are, and then that monotony is broken by new users asking for recommendations, which is followed by hundreds of "Get BWP, or maybe Still Life or Morningrise, or wait **** it every album by Opeth is amazing so good luck :thumb:."
:rolleyes: I like how I've attempted to discuss Flynn's point of view with him and he has completely ignored my posts, only responding to those who agree with him. I don't think he's a bad poster, but I think the level of fanboyism in this thread is higher than in any other official thread and so the discussion is more stagnant than a bloody swamp. It's really unbecoming to ignore attempts at detailed discussion. Even if you're too lazy to come up with rebuttal, at least acknowledge it instead of ignoring it. I hate coming into this thread and trying to come up with contrary arguments to spark discussion, because everybody is invariably like: "Oh...what? You don't think this is good? Well I do, opinions are opinions, deal with it, Opeth are amazing. :D Back to how much 'The Drapery Falls' rules for the millionth time..."[/QUOTE] Right on the mark with that. |
Hello. I don't mean to interrupt anything that is going on in here or nothing, but I like Opeth and I want to buy one of their albums. Which album is best. :)
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[QUOTE=DaveTheAmazing]Hello. I don't mean to interrupt anything that is going on in here or nothing, but I like Opeth and I want to buy one of their albums. Which album is best. :)[/QUOTE]
Well I'm biased to their older stuff....but if you are starting out I would get Blackwater Park, then their older stuff. I wouldn't really recommend Ghost Reveries....but hey, I guess you could give it a whirl. |
Blackwater Park it is. Opeth may just become my next obsession from what I've heard.
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[QUOTE=DaveTheAmazing]Blackwater Park it is. Opeth may just become my next obsession from what I've heard.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to the club. Have you ever listened to them before? |
Notice how the intro to The Ghost of Peridition is similar to Whens intro... but not as good... Both are good though..
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Ghost of Perdition is my favorite song of GR,
but I don't really like GR at all actually :( |
[QUOTE=DaveTheAmazing]Hello. I don't mean to interrupt anything that is going on in here or nothing, but I like Opeth and I want to buy one of their albums. Which album is best. :)[/QUOTE]
... [QUOTE=Cain]Get BWP, or maybe Still Life or Morningrise, or wait **** it every album by Opeth is amazing so good luck :thumb:." [/QUOTE] I don't think anyone could have said it better. :upset: I had to. |
moonlapse vertigo is my favourite metal song since ever.
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[QUOTE=Lydisk]moonlapse vertigo is my favourite metal song since ever.[/QUOTE]
My least favorite from Still Life... still decent. |
Serenity Painted Death is where it's at.
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White Cluster \m/
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