[QUOTE=Radiobass81]That might be the stupidest thing I've heard all day...

Communism doesn't work for humans? And what you call democracy does? It's not even real democracy (atleast not like it used to be)...

No political system will ever be good in every way, since they will be created by men.

IMO, every system has their advantage [and disadvantage, but people mostly pinpoint the disadvantages over the advantages].[/QUOTE]

Slightly edited by Gav...other than that, perfect.

Let's NOT start a Communist discussion as I am ruthless when it comes to my stance.

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-Gav

Uhm...yeah(isnt paying enough attention/deosnt care enouygh) :p

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]That might be the stupidest thing I've heard all day...

Communism doesn't work for humans? And what you call democracy does? It's not even real democracy (atleast not like it used to be)...

No political system will ever be good in every way, since they will be created by men.

IMO, every system has their advantage.[/QUOTE]
thats cool, except communism hasnt worked yet, our democracy in americah as yet to fall so we cant say it wont work yet. communism worked while it was in place. once a governmental system falls and fails consistently we say it wont work. and i guess the human part was a bit over explanatory im not saying communism will work with otters. im just saying it wont work as long as the human need to look out for oneself is there, which leads to greed. which any smart person will then exploit communism to their own good.

/ignores Fox's post

;)

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-Gav

I believe that communism COULD work, but the fact is that it never will because people suck too much to let it work properly.

[QUOTE=Left Shoe]thats cool, except communism hasnt worked yet, our democracy in americah as yet to fall so we cant say it wont work yet. communism worked while it was in place. once a governmental system falls and fails consistently we say it wont work. and i guess the human part was a bit over explanatory im not saying communism will work with otters. im just saying it wont work as long as the human need to look out for oneself is there, which leads to greed. which any smart person will then exploit communism to their own good.[/QUOTE]

False. Communism has seven steps (I don't recall them all). One of the steps is the rise of a dictator to "even it all out." Once everyrthing is evened out, Communism is achieved and history (since Marx argued history was nothing more than class struggles) ceases to exist.

According to Marx's own definition, Communism has yet to be achieved. Therefore, we cannot say, "Communism has failed" because it is yet to truly happen.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]I believe that communism COULD work, but the fact is that it never will because people suck too much to let it work properly.[/QUOTE]
well unless you are going to purify our population (exterminate , kill, lynch) then communism wont work thus my post doesnt suck =D

[QUOTE=Left Shoe]well unless you are going to purify our population (exterminate , kill, lynch) then communism wont work thus my post doesnt suck =D[/QUOTE]

...you could've just said postcount++

Wow, I never see like anyone say that anymore.

Something I HATE about hte forums is when they use communy as an insult...

And the only problem with communism in my eyes is that the one in "rule" has to actually be a good leader.

With democracy, there are tons of things that can go wrong by any person in charge. Communism just has one guy that can mess up.

Corruption is another problem altogether, but...

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]i hate the world, my parents wont drive me to my gfs house im going to go cry and write bad poetry! *cuts wrists* the world is painful! i have to cut myself to knwo i still have feelings *cranks up the taking back sunday*
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-Gav[/QUOTE]
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^ o.O

...:amaze:

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-Gav

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[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass] i wish i had left shoes bass :smash:
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-Gav[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]Something I HATE about hte forums is when they use communy as an insult...

And the only problem with communism in my eyes is that the one in "rule" has to actually be a good leader.

With democracy, there are tons of things that can go wrong by any person in charge. Communism just has one guy that can mess up.

Corruption is another problem altogether, but...[/QUOTE]

See, I don't think people truly know what Communism is. The leader isn't supposed to lead the nation. After the dictator rises and equals everything out, he is supposed to step down. After, there is no government, only the people. That's when everyone becomes equal.

The reason it fails is because the leader doesn't want to step down at any point in time. There's too much power and they refuse to give it up.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=Left Shoe] i hate all mxers except gav. hes pretty much the best. i wish i was as hot as him. he's so hot. gav owns me. i think id fellate gav if he asked me to. psht. pshtpsht. i'm left shoe. [/QUOTE]

:eek:

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-Gav

:lol:

PWNED!

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]See, I don't think people truly know what Communism is. The leader isn't supposed to lead the nation. After the dictator rises and equals everything out, he is supposed to step down. After, there is no government, only the people. That's when everyone becomes equal.

The reason it fails is because the leader doesn't want to step down at any point in time. There's too much power and they refuse to give it up.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]

Thus, a good leader is needed. He would be good enough to know WHEN to step down.

So... communism ends in anarchy?

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]:lol:

PWNED![/QUOTE]
i agree, that was excellent.

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]So... communism ends in anarchy?[/QUOTE]

In a way, yes.

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Spaceman: Who was owned?
Radio: ...touche! :lol: :p

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]So... communism ends in anarchy?[/QUOTE]

Not really. Anarchy means "no government is harmony." Communism says "no government is the last step for a completely equal society."

Trust me, I read the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engles. :p

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-Gav

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I have no idea what "touche" means :upset:...

^ Touche is a French word (accent on the e). It means "You got me," basically.

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-Gav

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[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Not really. Anarchy means "no government is harmony." Communism says "no government is the last step for a completely equal society."

Trust me, I read the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engles. :p

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-Gav[/QUOTE]

My english is not as good as yours, but I see little difference in those two quotes.

Obviously, in an anarchy, people won't have equal power. In communism, the people WILL have equal power, but will not neccesarrily be in harmony. All in all, [B][I]most[/I][/B] political systems want the same thing; the best for their land.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Spaceman: Who was owned?
Radio: ...touche! :lol: :p



Not really. Anarchy means "no government is harmony." Communism says "no government is the last step for a completely equal society."

Trust me, I read the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engles. :p

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-Gav[/QUOTE]
Well, in the end, you both got owned by each other... but it was more directed at you getting owned. :p


But , essentially, it seems that the final step of communism and anarchy are supposed to work the same way.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]^ Touche is a French word (accent on the e). It means "You got me," basically.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]

Bet you wouldn't have guessed my mom is a french teacher :lol:.

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^ Sorta, but anarchy says nothing about a classless society (both to Radio and Spaceman).

Also, Communism depends on a governmental figure as a means to achieve its goal. Anarchy is the blatant overthrow of government.

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-Gav

I'm off.

Good debate :p.

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]Bet you wouldn't have guessed my mom is a french teacher :lol:.

... :upset:[/QUOTE]

:lol:

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-Gav

o just give it up no one cares to critique their definition of communism.

HAHAHA. That is going to haunt my dreams tonight.

:lol:

(that cat pic a couple pages back)

:wave: Later, Radio!

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-Gav

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I'm off for now...night MX. Always a pleasure. :wave:

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-Gav

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I want an Avatar B212.

Well, honestly, I'd prefer a Schroeder 1212, but whatever.